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Old 21-06-2012, 00:06   #401
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We are happy for our children to pay inheritance tax if they are lucky enough to be in that bracket..
I'm sure they'll be delighted when on top of everything else they discover they'll have to pay inheritance tax up font before they can inherit what will be rightfully theirs...
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Old 21-06-2012, 00:21   #402
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I'm sure they'll be delighted when on top of everything else they discover they'll have to pay inheritance tax up font before they can inherit what will be rightfully theirs...

It's my money. They earned diddly squat. I've done my best for them so far and I will continue to do so.

But what is rightfully theirs is what is left behind.
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Old 21-06-2012, 00:31   #403
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Och well, that's one thing I don't need to worry about. If I'm on top of the bills by the time I shuffle off this mortal coil then anything else is a bonus. They might have enough for a takeaway and a bottle of wine.
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Old 21-06-2012, 00:35   #404
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I like him but theres is not not many more things that get me angry than a multi millionaire tax avoider! Alot more morally wrong than a benefit cheat in my opinion, alot of benefit cheats are forced to do it because they are desperate, jimmy is just a greedy c*nt
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Old 21-06-2012, 01:57   #405
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I believe a few people might have thought about this before, and come to the conclusion that what is legal and what is moral isn't the same thing, no.
I thought the law was supposed to be based on morals. Immoral to murder, immoral to steal, etc. These things are illegal too. Get what I mean?
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Old 21-06-2012, 02:28   #406
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Good for him. I would do the same. I have a few bank accounts abroad which yield a much better rate of interest on my savings than in this country. I pay tax on those accounts in that country and it generates a nice wad of cash every month. The bank and taxation system in this country do little for the poor and prop up the rich. It's the way it has always been and how it will always be.
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Old 21-06-2012, 03:12   #407
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He paid more tax than most people by default. When the law becomes a bit perverse, avoidance can be expected and understood. Whats it now?45%?
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Old 21-06-2012, 08:17   #408
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It's my money. They earned diddly squat. I've done my best for them so far and I will continue to do so.

But what is rightfully theirs is what is left behind.
I would sooner my folks go out and blow the lot rather than have to give the government inheritance tax.
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Old 21-06-2012, 08:25   #409
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You are speaking to the wrong woman.

I'm ok with tax. For sure, I have views on how it should be spent but I have no problem with paying my whack.

For example, when the bloke came round with advice on avoiding death duty he had a real problem understanding that we weren't bothered. We are happy for our children to pay inheritance tax if they are lucky enough to be in that bracket.

It's a sad society when enough is never enough for the individual.
So you do give HMRC more than you need to and you do return any rebates received to them.

How very noble of you.
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Old 21-06-2012, 08:29   #410
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Carr has just now issued a statement saying he’s no longer in the K2 scheme and realises he made a terrible mistake by ever doing so!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18531008
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Old 21-06-2012, 08:35   #411
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Not sure I buy that considering he went on stage the other night and pretty much said he was doing nothing wrong.. now he's made a terrible mistake? Wouldn't have anything to do with the public back lash would it Jimmy?
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Old 21-06-2012, 08:35   #412
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Carr has just now issued a statement saying he’s no longer in the K2 scheme and realises he made a terrible mistake by ever doing so!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18531008
So, HMRC already knew about his financial dealings then.

I suspect he'll sign up to the bigger and better Everest scheme now.
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Old 21-06-2012, 08:36   #413
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Not sure I buy that considering he went on stage the other night and pretty much said he was doing nothing wrong.. now he's made a terrible mistake? Wouldn't have anything to do with the public back lash would it Jimmy?
Of course it does and because of that, I feel sorry for him. Another example of media-driven hysteria.
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Old 21-06-2012, 08:38   #414
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Wouldn't have anything to do with the public back lash would it Jimmy?
well, of course. the guy has to keep working, even if that means having to pander to people now miffed at his exposed legal tax affairs, which should have remained private.
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Old 21-06-2012, 08:39   #415
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Methinks the Heath Govt would have lasted longer if Jimmy was Chancellor of the Exchequer
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Old 21-06-2012, 08:40   #416
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I like him but theres is not not many more things that get me angry than a multi millionaire tax avoider! Alot more morally wrong than a benefit cheat in my opinion, alot of benefit cheats are forced to do it because they are desperate, jimmy is just a greedy c*nt
yeah, that's what Lily Allen said, and it was just as naive and stupid a comment coming from her.

a lot more morally wrong than a benefits cheat? i say bollocks, a benefits cheat has got his hands in the bucket stealing the result of other people's hard work, at least somebody avoiding tax is only trying to hang on to the fruits of his own labour.
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Old 21-06-2012, 08:42   #417
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Another example of media-driven hysteria.
Carr was clearly all set to weather the storm if it was just the papers but it was CallMeDave naming and shaming him that brought about this volte face.

A precedent has now been established so I’m sure Dave will now be outing all his tax-avoiding mates as well. Surely he will, won’t he....?
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Old 21-06-2012, 08:49   #418
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Carr was clearly all set to weather the storm if it was just the papers but it was CallMeDave naming and shaming him that brought about this volte face.

A precedent has now been established so I’m sure Dave will now be outing all his tax-avoiding mates as well. Surely he will, won’t he....?
Of course he will.

He'll be calling them all this morning.

And they'll be telling him where he can stick the idea of closing their loopholes.
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Old 21-06-2012, 08:50   #419
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No surprise the socially blind don't get it.

Anyone who avoids paying tax is taking from society. While people will forgive a little bit of dishonesty, when it becomes excessive there is no forgiveness.

Jimmy Carr has probably saved his career by his statement, just in time as well.
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Old 21-06-2012, 08:56   #420
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Anyone who avoids paying tax is taking from society.
Practically everyone avoids paying tax in some way. ISAs, pensions, charity donations etc. Anyone with an ounce of common sense looks to minimise their tax liability within the law.

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Jimmy Carr has probably saved his career by his statement, just in time as well.
The contradiction between this latest statement and his bravado yesterday will continue to resonate and he’ll be dogged by this for years.
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Old 21-06-2012, 08:56   #421
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Oh I see, so he pays the correct tax up to £100,000. Then the rest he puts in this scheme. It looks like he does so on the principle why should he pay more? That's a tough question. But it could be argued he's in the country that 'made him', and the reason he has so much money, he ought to stick to the rules of that country. He's still many more times richer than everyone else.
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Old 21-06-2012, 09:00   #422
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I find it more shocking that an average comedian, who I don't really find funny can earn enough to pay for a 8, million pound house.

I doubt our nurses or armed forces would be able to afford that.

these celebrities get paid far too much then they don't want to pay into the country like the rest of us.

Legal or not, he's a rich comedian taking the piss!
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Old 21-06-2012, 09:02   #423
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No surprise the socially blind don't get it.

Anyone who avoids paying tax is taking from society. While people will forgive a little bit of dishonesty, when it becomes excessive there is no forgiveness.

Jimmy Carr has probably saved his career by his statement, just in time as well.
I bet this type of loss along with tax fraud adds up to a bit more than what we spend on benefits, and around ten billion pounds worth of benefits goes unclaimed each year. Yet, when people start clamouring to save money or cut the spending bill it's the benefit system that first comes to mind for a lot of people. The easiest and most vulnerable targets.
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Old 21-06-2012, 09:03   #424
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I find it more shocking that an average comedian, who I don't really find funny can earn enough to pay for a 8, million pound house.

I doubt our nurses or armed forces would be able to afford that.

these celebrities get paid far too much then they don't want to pay into the country like the rest of us.

Legal or not, he's a rich comedian taking the piss!
they "get paid" so much because presumably they have a product to sell that a lot of people want, and are happy to pay them for. the nurses / armed forces argument is a non-starter.
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Old 21-06-2012, 09:03   #425
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I find it more shocking that an average comedian, who I don't really find funny can earn enough to pay for a 8, million pound house.

I doubt our nurses or armed forces would be able to afford that.

these celebrities get paid far too much then they don't want to pay into the country like the rest of us.

Legal or not, he's a rich comedian taking the piss!
Well the people that enjoy him pay him. If people are willing to pay him for his gigs and DVDs, why not?

He is not stealing the money he is genuinley earning what he is worth. His fans pay him, good for him I say.
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