[sian2011]

Originally Posted by moleymo

why what would people of Macclesfield do to someone with a posh voice? there are a lot of predjudices on this particular thread , not nice to read

Nowt to someone who was speaking naturally but some jumped up twit with a made up voice...likely he'd get laughed and pointed at.

[Gunner95]

Originally Posted by Natgar

Again people are seeing the Waltons in every family. I would not fly if my sister died but then again my Mother did not fly home when my grandmother died. Not all families are close and anyway just because your family functions in a certain way not all do. Its unfair to judge Scott's actions without knowing more about what happened or what his relationship with his sister was like. Even then we all grieve differently.

Remember he hadn't even came out to his family when he announced he was gay on national TV? That suggests his family aren't particularly close and he'd probably rather be with Caroline.

[haphash]

Originally Posted by Gunner95

Remember he hadn't even came out to his family when he announced he was gay on national TV? That suggests his family aren't particularly close and he'd probably rather be with Caroline.

His family would have to be blind not to notice that he is gay. I bet his mamma has suspected for a long time. I'm not entirely sure that I believe this anyway.

[glowboy]

Originally Posted by flowers786

for some reason i can't sympathise with him.

the reason being it seems fame seems more important to him than his family.

might be harsh but thats my opinion, i cant understand why he chose to come back to the house.

^ This ^

His continual "there's something not right there" about Benedict is also quite irritating.

A posh boy scorned...

[moleymo]

Originally Posted by glowboy

^ This ^

His continual "there's something not right there" about Benedict is also quite irritating.

A posh boy scorned...

lots of people probably share his opinion

[glowboy]

Originally Posted by moleymo

lots of people probably share his opinion

Possibly. But we don't all repeat it every half hour.

I think he likes/liked Benedict, was "spurned", and is now whispering little nasty digs to whoever will listen.

[moleymo]

Originally Posted by glowboy

Possibly. But we don't all repeat it every half hour.

I think he likes/liked Benedict, was "spurned", and is now whispering little nasty digs to whoever will listen.

he nominated him the first week, hes not expressed any attraction to him and he's not exactly shy in saying who he does fancy is he?

he said today he doesn't like how disrespectful he is to women

[johnloony]

I commented earlier in the thread, but the responses to my comment were not relevant to the point I made, so I must have been misunderstood.

Consider these questions:

Was Scott's sister older or younger than him?
Was there a big age gap?
Was she a full sister, a half-sister, or a step-sister?
Did they live together in the same household?
How often did they contact each other?
Were they in any way estranged?
Was his sister remote or separated, either physically or emotionally?
What did his family say to him?
Did they tell him to stay in the BB house, despite his wishes?
Did he say he wanted to stay out of the BB house?
Did he insist on staying in the BB house, despite their wishes?

My point is that Nobody Here Knows the answers to Any Of These Questions, and it is not proper for people to express opinions on the basis of assuming one or other idea about what Scott and/or his family wanted him to do.

The only thing we Do Know is that he decided to stay as a BB contestant and stay in the house. I am not going to condemn him for that, and I am not assuming that he is thereby putting his position as a "celebrity" ahead of his family's interests.

[LarryHillington]

He is an absolute disgrace. There's no other way of putting it. Don't give me this nonsense that this is his way of dealing with the grief. The minute he found out his sister had died he should have returned to his family, end of.

[moleymo]

Originally Posted by LarryHillington

He is an absolute disgrace. There's no other way of putting it. Don't give me this nonsense that this is his way of dealing with the grief. The minute he found out his sister had died he should have returned to his family, end of.

what if he is not connected to his family in that way?
they might not be close his sister might not have been close to his family, by leaving the house he may be completely alone, you are assuming his family wants or needs him there, like everyone is saying its impossible to judge this situation without facts and to do so without facts is stupid and disrespectful to Scott and his family

[moleymo]

Originally Posted by johnloony

I commented earlier in the thread, but the responses to my comment were not relevant to the point I made, so I must have been misunderstood.

Consider these questions:

Was Scott's sister older or younger than him?
Was there a big age gap?
Was she a full sister, a half-sister, or a step-sister?
Did they live together in the same household?
How often did they contact each other?
Were they in any way estranged?
Was his sister remote or separated, either physically or emotionally?
What did his family say to him?
Did they tell him to stay in the BB house, despite his wishes?
Did he say he wanted to stay out of the BB house?
Did he insist on staying in the BB house, despite their wishes?

My point is that Nobody Here Knows the answers to Any Of These Questions, and it is not proper for people to express opinions on the basis of assuming one or other idea about what Scott and/or his family wanted him to do.

The only thing we Do Know is that he decided to stay as a BB contestant and stay in the house. I am not going to condemn him for that, and I am not assuming that he is thereby putting his position as a "celebrity" ahead of his family's interests.

exactly! like people are saying not everyones family is like the waltons
personaly if anything happened to my sister I would be inconsolable, she is my best friend, we were brought up together there are only 3 years between us she is one of the most important people in my life, but I have a friend who's father left him and his mother as a baby met someone had more kids, left her met someone else had more kids so my friend has lots of brothers and sisters he barely knows would you expect him to give up his dreams to comfort a man he barely knows to be greifstricken for a sister he barely knows?
even though my own family is Walton ish I know for a fact that not everyone isn't the same its not difficult to see things from another perspective.
the fact that Scott hadn't reacted the way I imagine I would react makes me think that he doesn't have the same relationship as I do with mine, but why would that be his fault?

[johnloony]

Originally Posted by LarryHillington

He is an absolute disgrace. There's no other way of putting it. Don't give me this nonsense that this is his way of dealing with the grief. The minute he found out his sister had died he should have returned to his family, end of.

What if his family insisted that he should go back to be in the BB house?

It is amusing that you wrote "end of" at the end of your sentence, as if you think it somehow validates what you wrote.

[brb]

I agree... thing is though, because of it, he's just not enjoyable to watch. I can't imagine him becoming enjoyable again. Whilst it's sad that his sister died, I hope that the sympathy vote doesn't keep him in.

[i4u]

Originally Posted by johnloony

What if his family insisted that he should go back to be in the BB house?

Read your list, you have a lot of what ifs.

What if this is BB, what if housemates are judged by viewers, what if viewers don't know the facts, what if not knowing the facts is part of the appeal of BB.

What if viewers make judgements based on human nature?

What if I'm right and you are wrong?

The programme is nowin full alignment with the Daily Sport & OK yet people raise concerns about 'the facts'.

[TheFridge]

Just when you think you've seen it all regarding the lengths some people will go for their 5 minutes of fame , Scott takes it to a new low , hes cold blooded self centered freak.

[IrishGranny]

I wonder if they let him out for the funeral or if he chose not to go. Surely the funeral must have taken place by now, even in England they wouldn't leave a dead person lying in some funeral parlour for more than a week, would they?

[i4u]

Originally Posted by IrishGranny

I wonder if they let him out for the funeral or if he chose not to go. Surely the funeral must have taken place by now, even in England they wouldn't leave a dead person lying in some funeral parlour for more than a week, would they?

The producers could snip out all reference to a funeral and you'd be none the wiser.

[maureens]

Originally Posted by i4u

The producers could snip out all reference to a funeral and you'd be none the wiser.

Yes it has been done before with Tom last year, he was allowed out to his Grandad's but it was never mentioned.

[moleymo]

Originally Posted by TheFridge

Just when you think you've seen it all regarding the lengths some people will go for their 5 minutes of fame , Scott takes it to a new low , hes cold blooded self centered freak.

just when you think this forum couldn't get any lower, all it takes is a death, ignorance, a judgemental and sanctimonious audience and a forum where calling a person a self centred freak is considered fun and a persons right to do some

someone on another thread on this topic claims its all over Twitter that the star got it wrong and it wasn't even his sister that died

can some people just wait for the facts before getting nasty?

[IrishGranny]

There has been nothing at all in the HMs behaviour towards him or what's been said between other HMs in his absence to suggest they are aware of his sister's death. I know we only see an hour a day but its just like it never happened if HMs knew about it it would be a regular topic of conversation and even Lydia would muster up some empathy for him. It cannot be good for his psychological or emotional health if this is being kept secret in the house. BB did not have to tell us about the bereavement or him leaving the house, I wonder why they chose to do that, they must have known that without explanation it would make him appear cold-hearted and that he would be negatively judged for it.

[i4u]

Originally Posted by moleymo

just when you think this forum couldn't get any lower, all it takes is a death, ignorance, a judgemental and sanctimonious audience and a forum where calling a person a self centred freak is considered fun and a persons right to do some

someone on another thread on this topic claims its all over Twitter that the star got it wrong and it wasn't even his sister that died

can some people just wait for the facts before getting nasty?

Did they provide a link, as it's all over the internet about his sister. I would have thought a micro blog would have picked up the twitter chatter?

[moleymo]

Originally Posted by i4u

Did they provide a link, as it's all over the internet about his sister. I would have thought a micro blog would have picked up the twitter chatter?

I never read it on Twitter a poster on this forum claims to have read it on Twitter ask them for a link
to me its irrelevant anyway if it was his sister or not

[haphash]

Originally Posted by johnloony

The only thing we Do Know is that he decided to stay as a BB contestant and stay in the house. I am not going to condemn him for that, and I am not assuming that he is thereby putting his position as a "celebrity" ahead of his family's interests.

He is on BB and we can judge as we see fit. I don't like Scott at all and this is based on his general snake like sly personality. Putting BB above his parents distress is just the cherry on the cake as far as I'm concerned. I actually don't care if he was close to his sister or not. I just wish he was off my screen.

[moleymo]

Originally Posted by haphash

He is on BB and we can judge as we see fit. I don't like Scott at all and this is based on his general snake like sly personality. Putting BB above his parents distress is just the cherry on the cake as far as I'm concerned. I actually don't care if he was close to his sister or not. I just wish he was off my screen.

so its pure prejudice

[haphash]

Originally Posted by moleymo

so its pure prejudice

Yup can't stand the guy.

Whatever excuses you try to make for his behaviour the fact remains that the majority of people on this thread think his behaviour is morally wrong.

Can't wait until we have a chance to evict him and his ghastly orange hair.