[Peter the Great]

Originally Posted by James Martin 2

Yeah, but that's another argument totally!

If you look at UTV's portfolio, this isn't a logical fit for them. Signal and talkSPORT aside, there's a lot of small stations there. Whereas for Global, this is so logical it hurts. Although another round of consolidation on the scale of the GCap acquisition is going to initially cause shockwaves in the industry with yet more jobs lost, it puts commercial radio as a whole in a much stronger position long-term.

As for local travel through the day - no reason whatsoever why that can't be done during networking. Jack FM's stations manage travel when the studio is unattended, as do Quidem's stations during their automated drivetime output. Either done by the news presenter or INRIX.

It puts Global in a stronger position and that is all and it is not good for commercial radio. I mean who could get exited about having more crappy Hearts on the dial? You must work in management for Global or something because you seem like a dog on heat when you talk about Global. Let's hope they fail to get their hands on GMG's stations.

[RadioKnower]

Originally Posted by Peter the Great

You must work in management for Global or something because you seem like a dog on heat when you talk about Global.

He wishes! But then don't we all?

[acefee311]

Pulse, Hallam, Viking, Minster and Aire, Yorkshire Coast Radio and TFM for example would be a threat to Heart as they all have a excellent localness for there listeners, more music choice, great for traffic and good news until 7pm (some might be later).

I've listened to Heart, yes its a great station in its unique way. However its repetitive like Gold. Traffic is not that good against its rivals. Its very poor for its localness indeed.

Real has a better county wide feel to it what with its excellent traffic reports thought its TX area, good music, great djs, good for news local and national. I like Real Radio and I've listened to all of them and they are excellent in there unique way. Smooth is the same with great history of music and trys to be local in its TX areas. Djs are brilliant too.

So it would be sad to say goodbye (if global gets its hands on the company). Loss of jobs (also at Real XS if sold) and localness will be very poor indeed.

[Peter the Great]

Originally Posted by RadioKnower

He wishes! But then don't we all?

...Well no not really.

[Les Wires]

Originally Posted by acefee311

Pulse, Hallam, Viking, Minster and Aire, Yorkshire Coast Radio and TFM for example would be a threat to Heart .

Only in the short term.
When Global have consolidated the GMG deal surely the Bauer stations will be next.
Capital Leeds. Magic becoming Gold.....can't be far away.

[wavejockglw]

Originally Posted by Les Wires

Only in the short term.
When Global have consolidated the GMG deal surely the Bauer stations will be next.
Capital Leeds. Magic becoming Gold.....can't be far away.

Can't envisage that happening as there needs to be at least two commercial compeditors in each major market. The Bauer stations will continue to be popular as heritage brands on FM and Magic on AM competing with Global's pseudo National Capital, Heart and Goild brands.

[dpb]

Originally Posted by James Martin 2

Yeah, but that's another argument totally!

If you look at UTV's portfolio, this isn't a logical fit for them. Signal and talkSPORT aside, there's a lot of small stations there. Whereas for Global, this is so logical it hurts. Although another round of consolidation on the scale of the GCap acquisition is going to initially cause shockwaves in the industry with yet more jobs lost, it puts commercial radio as a whole in a much stronger position long-term.<snip>

Given how GMG's networks are set up Global is a logical buyer but I can see why UTV would want to buy GMG. If they want to become a bigger player in radio and increase their strength GMG would be a good purchase.

As for local travel through the day - no reason whatsoever why that can't be done during networking. Jack FM's stations manage travel when the studio is unattended, as do Quidem's stations during their automated drivetime output. Either done by the news presenter or INRIX.

Very true. Indeed both Gold and Smooth use an external provider for travel - tailored to each licence area and in the case of Gold even each frequency (Gold Derby has or at least had until recently Derby travel making it more local for travel news than Capital or Gem!).

Originally Posted by acefee311

Pulse, Hallam, Viking, Minster and Aire, Yorkshire Coast Radio and TFM for example would be a threat to Heart

Originally Posted by Les Wires

Only in the short term.
When Global have consolidated the GMG deal surely the Bauer stations will be next.
Capital Leeds. Magic becoming Gold.....can't be far away.

Do you mean Radio Aire would become Capital Leeds? Capital Yorkshire already covers Leeds though and a few years ago was getting better figures than Aire.

[Mapperley Ridge]

Originally Posted by -ajm-

Are the Real licences required to broadcast 24hr news?

I understand what's now Gem 106 has to (although i'm not sure it still does.)

Do you mean 24 hour regional news? The original Radio 106 licence had that commitment, but I think it was soon dropped after the Century rebrand.

[hanssolo]

Originally Posted by acefee311

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So it would be sad to say goodbye (if global gets its hands on the company). Loss of jobs (also at Real XS if sold) and localness will be very poor indeed.

Global will make the morning show, ads and news sound very local and many listeners sadly will not notice the network shows are not local.
The cost to global will be much higher than £50m with redundancy, early contract terminations and other costs, but the long term savings will boost future profitability
Was interesting this comment in Radiotoday's eradio

Ultimately the UK radio industry will be represented by less than 10-12 consumer radio brands in a similar way to the highly profitable French radio industry, with 3-4 major owners.”
Clive Dickens, COO – Absolute Radio

[dpb]

Originally Posted by -ajm-

Are the Real licences required to broadcast 24hr news?

I understand what's now Gem 106 has to (although i'm not sure it still does.)

The requirement was removed in 2010.

http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/bin...s/heart106.pdf

[bluesdiamond]

Why would Global want the Bauer network?
With the regionals Smooth, Capital and Real and on DAB LBC and XFM, this makes Global way to dominant.

[omnidirectional]

Originally Posted by bluesdiamond

Why would Global want the Bauer network?
With the regionals Smooth, Capital and Real and on DAB LBC and XFM, this makes Global way to dominant.

Agreed, Global wouldn't want Bauer. In most of the areas covered by Bauer there's already a Capital station and (probably) Heart soon, when the GMG deal is done.

[hanssolo]

Originally Posted by omnidirectional

Agreed, Global wouldn't want Bauer. In most of the areas covered by Bauer there's already a Capital station and (probably) Heart soon, when the GMG deal is done.

back in 2007 Kiss and Galaxy started to share advertising and programmes
http://www.brandrepublic.com/news/643467/

LONDON - Emap and Chrysalis Radio have announced plans for a major cross-network alliance, following the news that the two companies are to work together under the Kiss and Galaxy brands to promote access for clients to the youth audience.

How things change now Kiss and Capital are effectively quasi national rivals?

[Shrewn]

John Myers ‏@johnmyersteam
A little good news today coming up. Quite chuffed

Just saw this, it maybe nothing, or his new Bentley's arrived!

[James Martin 2]

Global management? If only - but there's not that much I'd change in all honesty. Introduce Old Skool classics on Capital (see: Kisstory) but that's it.

[Les Wires]

Originally Posted by dpb

Do you mean Radio Aire would become Capital Leeds? Capital Yorkshire already covers Leeds though and a few years ago was getting better figures than Aire.

I suspect the government would gradually relax the non-competitive regulations, they tend to bend a little to help large media organisations.

In the meantime perhaps Aire could become 'Choice', the same could happen if Global eventually takeover Orion with both Free and Capital already in the area.

An explosion in internet radio listening could of course halt this radio empire building.

[tomhourigan]

Originally Posted by Shrewn

Just saw this, it maybe nothing, or his new Bentley's arrived!

People really have got to stop jumping to conclusions here:

http://radiotoday.co.uk/2012/06/john...ry-fellowship/

[calderjon]

Originally Posted by tomhourigan

People really have got to stop jumping to conclusions here:

http://radiotoday.co.uk/2012/06/john...ry-fellowship/

Haha "chuffed" love it.....he has a way with words.

[RadioHasChanged]

Originally Posted by Les Wires

Only in the short term.
When Global have consolidated the GMG deal surely the Bauer stations will be next.
Capital Leeds. Magic becoming Gold.....can't be far away.

Oh my dear god. Just when you thought the rumour mill couldn't get any more ridiculous.

Capital Leeds. In Leeds. Where Capital Yorkshire is the market leading commercial station. Yep, that sounds like a logical decision.

Of course, the OFT won't have ANY problems with the number one radio group (who will be just short of twice the size of Bauer if the GMG deal goes through) merging with the UK's second largest group.

Come on people, let's have some thought before posting rumours as insane as this.

[James Martin 2]

The only logical rumour I've heard if the GMG thing pulls off is the acquisition of some of Lincs FM Group's portfolio. I still doubt they would sell - but if the original Baby Eater can convince them to sell Oak FM, can the current Baby Eater do the same with the flagship...?

[Les Wires]

Originally Posted by RadioHasChanged

Oh my dear god. Just when you thought the rumour mill couldn't get any more ridiculous.........................

Come on people, let's have some thought before posting rumours as insane as this.

I think I posted a suggestion/forecast not a rumour.

Suggesting that my prediction is a rumour...........
well that's how rumours start

[hanssolo]

Originally Posted by Les Wires

I suspect the government would gradually relax the non-competitive regulations, they tend to bend a little to help large media organisations.

There's no truth in this at all according to Mr Cameron during the Levison enquiry.

Originally Posted by Les Wires

An explosion in internet radio listening could of course halt this radio empire building.

Not at the current rate of growth where a lot of listening is still on analogue. Will take some years yet!
http://www.rajar.co.uk/docs/news/dat...se_2012_Q1.pdf

DAB hours are 203 million (177m in Q1, 2011 – up 15%)

DTV hours are 47 million (44m in Q1, 2011 – up 7%)

Internet hours are 42 million (39m in Q1, 2011 – up 8%)

It could be an announcement is on Monday (or maybe a later Monday) which is when Media Guardian is published, but somehow think GMG will want to keep it low profile as it is an embarrassing exit from radio with a big loss for them!

[overline]

Originally Posted by Les Wires

An explosion in internet radio listening could of course halt this radio empire building.

Is that going to happen 'next year', just like you predicted the take-off of DRM 'next year', some years ago?

[Mapperley Ridge]

Originally Posted by RadioHasChanged

Oh my dear god. Just when you thought the rumour mill couldn't get any more ridiculous.

Come on people, let's have some thought before posting rumours as insane as this.

Now remind me, who started this prediction/rumour?

Originally Posted by RadioHasChanged

By the way, keep your eyes on somewhere like Radio Today or Media Guardian tomorrow. I'd put money on you getting your answers.

[James Martin 2]

Originally Posted by Les Wires

An explosion in internet radio listening could of course halt this radio empire building.

13-year-old, balls-yet-to-drop little Johnny live from his bedroom, or Nick Snaith live from Leicester Square? Tough call.