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Old 26-06-2012, 10:19   #1
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We all know...

We all know that watching edited versions of bb is nothing like what use to happen when we had live feed,bb can manipulate any situation in that house now.
I have no favourite so am not bias but i dont understand why always on this forum do you all get up in arms about something you dont know the full story to.
i tend to watch now with an open mind has i dont believe whats on highlights to be true.
Watching and listening to snipets it seems there all fed up of her so she must not be very nice to live with,,surley they all cant be wrong.
What connor said was out of order i agree i dont like behaviour like that,but i think if shes as bad as they all say and we dont know for sure maybe that was the last straw for him(not a good way to let of steam i agree).Anyway thats my theory,just saying try not to read to much into the highlight shows theres always to sides to a story ))
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Old 26-06-2012, 10:22   #2
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Context in this case isn't relevant, IMO, because the words he used, for whatever reason in his own mind, are unacceptable.
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Old 26-06-2012, 10:23   #3
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Context in this case isn't relevant, IMO, because the words he used, for whatever reason in his own mind, are unacceptable.

As said.
I do not condone what Conor said at all. Whatever Deana may or may not have done in that house is irrelevant.
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Old 26-06-2012, 10:24   #4
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Context in this case isn't relevant, IMO, because the words he used, for whatever reason in his own mind, are unacceptable.



This ^.
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Old 26-06-2012, 10:26   #5
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Context in this case isn't relevant, IMO, because the words he used, for whatever reason in his own mind, are unacceptable.
Yes true, but what is BB doing about it? Zilch.
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Old 26-06-2012, 10:45   #6
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Context in this case isn't relevant, IMO, because the words he used, for whatever reason in his own mind, are unacceptable.

i agree with the part it was words from his own mind and that it was unacceptable but what im trying to say is we dont know how bad it is to live with Deena or if as everyone on here thinks they are bullys,i always believe theres 2 sides to a story so i wont jump on the hate bandwagon.
Sometimes on this forum whats wrote about a person is worse or as bad as the person they are targeting,so we all have the capacity to behave like Connor to some extent
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Old 26-06-2012, 10:47   #7
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When Sexual Assault is threatened by a self confessed angry man, there is never another side to the story.

Why the hell is anyone trying to excuse this behaviour?
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Old 26-06-2012, 11:04   #8
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When Sexual Assault is threatened by a self confessed angry man, there is never another side to the story.

Why the hell is anyone trying to excuse this behaviour?
where am i excusing his behaviour? and there is always another side,thats like saying you find a woman laid in a pool of blood, she says someone stabbed her for no reason we all believe cos its a violent attact and she couldnt possibly warrent this,later we find out that he did it in self defence after a gang attact him and it was her own knife that was used against her
ok im babbling but im just saying me personally wont jump on a bandwangon and dont believe everything on the highlight show
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Old 26-06-2012, 11:08   #9
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So if he had carried out his threat to assault her that would be okay because Deana may have deserved it? Is that really what your saying?
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Old 26-06-2012, 11:08   #10
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where am i excusing his behaviour? and there is always another side,thats like saying you find a woman laid in a pool of blood, she says someone stabbed her for no reason we all believe cos its a violent attact and she couldnt possibly warrent this,later we find out that he did it in self defence after a gang attact him and it was her own knife that was used against her
ok im babbling but im just saying me personally wont jump on a bandwangon and dont believe everything on the highlight show
Did you see last night show? It couldn't have been any more clearer what he said and his aggressive way of saying it. Where in the Highlights could this have been perhaps 'not fully shown'?
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Old 26-06-2012, 11:12   #11
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Unless Deana had used similar language towards him first (or said or done something even worse) and he reacted thus in direct retaliation, then there is no possible relevant context for it that I can think of, and had she done so (which IMO is highly unlikely), I think it's reasonable to assume we would have been shown.
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Old 26-06-2012, 11:21   #12
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where am i excusing his behaviour? and there is always another side,thats like saying you find a woman laid in a pool of blood, she says someone stabbed her for no reason we all believe cos its a violent attact and she couldnt possibly warrent this,later we find out that he did it in self defence after a gang attact him and it was her own knife that was used against her
ok im babbling but im just saying me personally wont jump on a bandwangon and dont believe everything on the highlight show
Hush now
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Old 26-06-2012, 11:23   #13
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Did you see last night show? It couldn't have been any more clearer what he said and his aggressive way of saying it. Where in the Highlights could this have been perhaps 'not fully shown'?
Exactly we saw what they wanted us to see, how do we know she hasnt done something equally as bad? because we are made to believe shes refined and a lady?i hate the fact we dont have live feed to be able to draw our own conclusions. With highlights we only see what they want us to,.im not trying to change your uptake on what you see,just that i believe theres more to the story
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Old 26-06-2012, 11:25   #14
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What could she have possibly said or done to warrant a sexual assault threat and a threat of a punch in the face?
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Old 26-06-2012, 11:26   #15
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Hush now
Please dont tell me to hush(shut up) if you dont like what im saying ignore or respond in an adult way thank you
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Old 26-06-2012, 11:29   #16
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Exactly we saw what they wanted us to see, how do we know she hasnt done something equally as bad? because we are made to believe shes refined and a lady?i hate the fact we dont have live feed to be able to draw our own conclusions. With highlights we only see what they want us to,.im not trying to change your uptake on what you see,just that i believe theres more to the story
You honestly think Deana might have done / said something equally as bad?!

Sorry, never in a million years is this the case. It's just not.
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Old 26-06-2012, 11:42   #17
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You honestly think Deana might have done / said something equally as bad?!

Sorry, never in a million years is this the case. It's just not.
Thats because you believe what you are seeing in a highly edited show.
I am not taking sides in this ive said all along what Connor said was totally out of order,what im saying is are we seeing the true Deena or an edited version do we really know for sure shes not as bad as Connor?
We have the stereo type thugish looking guy speaks a bit common then we have the beautiful refined lady,we believe the guy must be the bad one because no way can the lady be doing anything wrong
But its just my thoughts maybe i am wrong who knows
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Old 26-06-2012, 11:43   #18
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What he said cannot be put into context, it is what it is.

Sick.
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Old 26-06-2012, 11:46   #19
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Please dont tell me to hush(shut up) if you dont like what im saying ignore or respond in an adult way thank you
I'll respond to you in any way I choose. I answer to the mods, not to you - someone who is trying to convince others that Deana somehow warranted these threats, or brought them on herself, or did something equally as bad

Victim blaming. As old as the hills, as dumb as a rock.
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Old 26-06-2012, 11:46   #20
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So you are suggesting that people not criticise Conor on the extremely unlikely premise that Deana has said something equally as bad but it has not been shown?

You may claim you are not trying to excuse his behaviour, but you are.
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Old 26-06-2012, 11:47   #21
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We all know that watching edited versions of bb is nothing like what use to happen when we had live feed,bb can manipulate any situation in that house now.
I have no favourite so am not bias but i dont understand why always on this forum do you all get up in arms about something you dont know the full story to.
i tend to watch now with an open mind has i dont believe whats on highlights to be true.
Watching and listening to snipets it seems there all fed up of her so she must not be very nice to live with,,surley they all cant be wrong.
What connor said was out of order i agree i dont like behaviour like that,but i think if shes as bad as they all say and we dont know for sure maybe that was the last straw for him(not a good way to let of steam i agree).Anyway thats my theory,just saying try not to read to much into the highlight shows theres always to sides to a story ))
What you're doing here is trying to blame the victim.
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Old 26-06-2012, 11:52   #22
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Please dont tell me to hush(shut up) if you dont like what im saying ignore or respond in an adult way thank you
That's fair enough Lisy but in my world what Conor said was beyond validation. Editing or no editing , do you truly think Deanne is capable of saying something similar? Genuine question.
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Old 26-06-2012, 11:59   #23
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The worry for me is that Conor is already going to be put on a pedestal for being on TV, youngsters don't always see the gravity of a situation. It is often OK to hear someone speak like this, as long as they are not being punched in the face, it is just words.

When you get a little older, you will realise how wrong this is. Our civilised society should never allow this vile behaviour. When on TV, and those vile words spoken to a nation, the person or persons should be removed to show the world that those who behave so badly will not be tolerated or put on a pedestal.

The backlash when he gets out will be huge anyway. Removing him would be kinder for all, including Conor. This young man needs to learn quickly that even making threats out of anger is wrong. He couldn’t control himself on national TV, he will not control himself when in private, drunk and angry at a female companion. It quite frankly scares me to death! I hope young women out there give him a wide berth and don’t play with this fire.
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