[SummerLou]

I think its the lack of punishment for the group that is getting everyone so wound up. Conor says things like that and gets away with it and his group are clearly still talking about nominations and nothing is being done about it. I do not have a favourite housemate at the minute and I am not usually a complainer about BB things I just get on with it and watch the show but its even starting to wind me up. If BB punished them then there would be no need to complain but they are not listening. I turned BBBOTS off last night after Emma going on about the amazing show I was getting to annoyed.

[Oswald Mosley]

I did wonder why BB aired it in the first place; it would have saved them a lot of hassle not to, as they realised with the Jay/freezer incident last year.

[brb]

Originally Posted by SummerLou

I think its the lack of punishment for the group that is getting everyone so wound up. Conor says things like that and gets away with it and his group are clearly still talking about nominations and nothing is being done about it. I do not have a favourite housemate at the minute and I am not usually a complainer about BB things I just get on with it and watch the show but its even starting to wind me up. If BB punished them then there would be no need to complain but they are not listening. I turned BBBOTS off last night after Emma going on about the amazing show I was getting to annoyed.

You're right. Thi sis what annoys me. They CONTINUE to talk about nominations and are "punished" by having no hot water for a few hours of have the chairs removed for a night. This is not punishment. We're seeing members of the "weaker" group being picked off one by one. C5 needs to do something. They need to be stricter. Punishment for discussing nominations should mean automatically up for eviction yourself as well as another punishment.

[James Frederick]

Originally Posted by Oswald Mosley

I did wonder why BB aired it in the first place; it would have saved them a lot of hassle not to, as they realised with the Jay/freezer incident last year.

I think they realized if they tried to cover it up and it came out later and it would have a ex HM would have said something sooner or later they would have even more trouble over it

[Timalloy84]

Originally Posted by LeifOnMars

A selfish sentiment, also disturbing in that it pleads for the right to see horrible people do horrible things to the marginally less horrible, but more vulnerable, housemates

It is more important to see justice being done and to have the conduct of brainless bulks of brawn a la the common male slapper, Conor, and his barely human acolytes censured.
These are sick, dysfunctional people taking part in an increasingly distasteful, unwatchable show financed by the pornographers that publish the Daily Star, the printed toilet sheets with newspaper pretensions.

I think you're being a tad harsh calling me selfish, all my op was saying, was that too many complaints will only lead to further censorship and editing. I admit that I do like seeing a broad mix of housemates, and the conflicts that arise from this. What Coner said went way beyond this, and a severe punishment should have happened. Being kicked out though, would have made him some sort of martyr within the house, whereas the inevitable, "get conor out" chants will be a wake up call to his group.

[ChipChomper]

this was caused by yet another example of a production team totally lost the plot.
Last year people gave them sympathy because the show was rushed theres no excuse this time.
He should have been ejected and footage shown as the reason for the ejection THEN the problem
is dealt with.

what more can they do?
Live feed Axed
full control over events
the only thing left is axing the show and if anyone doesnt believe that will happen sooner rather than later are they in for a shock.

[Thetrevster]

If they had sent Conor packing it would still leave plenty of odious characters to create the drama you want to see.

[Timalloy84]

Originally Posted by Thetrevster

If they had sent Conor packing it would still leave plenty of odious characters to create the drama you want to see.

Still not the point I was making. I'm looking forward to Fri to hear the chants against him.

[What name??]

Of course they should have shown it. But they also should have booted him out unceremoniously. People are, rightly, complaining because BB handled this wrongly - not because it happened. Contestants are going to go to far. By now BB should have a sensible policy in place and boot them out when they overstep certain lines. Connor has gone way past that line.

[LIZALYNN]

Probably true.
We like to see what is really going on in the house and I am very suprised that they aired the Conor rap in the highlights show. He should have been ejected immediately.
Too many complaints and we could only get to see the footage where housemates are always getting along nicely with each other.
But BB has to join in now and take back some control of that house. Proper longer punishments and warnings for a start. For instance I'll bet the alcohol is back by tomorrow.

[missfrizzy]

Originally Posted by James Frederick

The fact Coner wasn't even sorry and in fact seemed more annoyed that BB had dared to call him in over it says it all.

TBH if anything at all when they read it out to him you could see all he was thinking was "If they air that I'm screwed" and even then I bet he thinks it's Deana's fault for making him say it

Agree, he was more embarassed that his nasty comments were so clearly heard, and played back.. He had no remorse whatsoever, and then Aaron started with his vicious comments.

[pippapipps]

The best way to deal with this is to show channel 5 up for what media hungry disgraceful individuals they are for allowing such vile behaviour scrape the ratings in for them. They show themselves up to be one of the many who put ratings before decent behaviour.

They will probably say they have shown this to all so that Conor has to face the consequences on the outside for his behaviour. But it is for ratings! I feel like clapping...not!

On channel 4, a contestant was removed for using the N word to a black girl. So we see racism is wrong, why not thuggery.

[wxjltonight]

I have no problem with them airing last nights vileness, but if they had removed Connor from the house immediately and shown the audience and the HMs that this behaviour is unacceptable there would have been no complaints to OFCOM or C5.
BB's producers only have themselves to blame over this. It is their lack of control and inability to act accordingly that will lead to the death of this show and not those who watch it and complain about the appalling sexual/physical threats and bullying that they can plainly see.
And to think of the days we all got so upset about Nasty Nick passing notes!!! That in itself shows you just how much this programme has degraded the acceptance of the public and those who enter this so-called game-show.
C5 and BB better move fast on this or yes, OFCOM will act and so will the papers and then BB will be back to showing nothing.
If they can't check themselves then the public will. And rightly so.

[purplesky99]

I don't think it will backfire. If anything major happens they want to show it, because it creates more viewers. We have a say via the voting, but obviously we do not choose who is up for eviction. BB has a say in that, and that SHOULD be where they deal with this, by putting either Conor up, or the whole house up, for a reason such as the talking about noms etc..

[purplesky99]

Originally Posted by wxjltonight

And to think of the days we all got so upset about Nasty Nick passing notes!!!

I know...! One day it will be even more gratuitous and morally reprehensible by todays standardsif we let actions such as Conor's go unpunished...

[Bagshot85]

Originally Posted by Timalloy84

If the connor/Deana thing becomes a massive thing, with complaints about whether it should have been shown/whether he should have been evicted, they just won't show these things happening. We won't get to see how horrible some of them are and just be bombarded with the boring couples constantly.

They showed us an edited version.
Goodness knows what we would have seen.. had we been privy to the Live Feed.
Just remember we get about 45/50 minutes of 24 hours.

[samantha2012]

All you people care about is entertainment and seeing others being treated badly and being bullied this is unacceptable behaviour we should not tolerate it, its so sad to see people love to watch fights conflict harrasment racist comment etc and they think this is just a game wake up people this is reality how would you feel if that has happend to you? this is bully and i am truely disgusted by this event. If big brother allow this to go on they will continue this on further and further.

[samantha2012]

you people r so sad all you care about yrself this isnt a game watching people getting bullied isnt a game or entertainment so grow up stop talking shit i am literally fuming with this. cant believe these guys speak about a girl like that so disgusted sick i am so dissapointed.

[88Paul99]

Originally Posted by Timalloy84

If the connor/Deana thing becomes a massive thing, with complaints about whether it should have been shown/whether he should have been evicted, they just won't show these things happening. We won't get to see how horrible some of them are and just be bombarded with the boring couples constantly.

They can show it and then kick him out. What's the problem?

If Endemol weren't so secretive and feeble they could have great TV and honour.

[Timalloy84]

Originally Posted by samantha2012

All you people care about is entertainment and seeing others being treated badly and being bullied this is unacceptable behaviour we should not tolerate it, its so sad to see people love to watch fights conflict harrasment racist comment etc and they think this is just a game wake up people this is reality how would you feel if that has happend to you? this is bully and i am truely disgusted by this event. If big brother allow this to go on they will continue this on further and further.

Chill, my original post was clearly not condoning what was said, merely that I would not like to see big brother censored and edited any more than it already is. If channel 5 had chosen not to show what Conor said we would be none the wiser and they wouldn't have to put up with all the complaints they are going to get. The next time there's a similar incident, a producer may decide that he can't be bothered with the grief, so leaves it out the show altogether.

[wotnot]

Originally Posted by td1983

Agreed, the moral outrage on here is way OTT. It was an inappropiate set of comments, but the warning was sufficient. I know he'll go now, though-the PC brigade always win in the end these days, sadly.

You are so right, I sometimes wonder if some of the people here live in cottonwool houses with marshmallow hedges and when it rains it rains fairy dust, they do seem a tad sensitive. However I disagree that it would be sad if Conor went, I'd see it as just, behave badly and expect not to be liked at least it's true to life and more honest than running off to set up a petition to get rid of him.

[samhainapples]

I disagree that a warning was sufficient and I'm astounded people think it was.

Quite frankly, if Ch5's inaction on kicking Conor out of the House (promptly or at all) means BB dies a death then it's time it died a death.

A reminder of what those above saying they thought a warning was a "sufficient" response to:

Conor - Get your epilator, stick it up your ass. We don't give a f**k, cause i'm gonna f**king smash your face in you f**king piece of sh*t
. I'll give her a fun game, i'll stick this up her f*****g minge the stupid bastard. I'll give her a f*****g epilator (pushes brush upwards)/ I'm gonna play loadsa pranks on her.
Because she's a f*****g piece of s**t. I don't care if i get pulled up to the diary room.

Ashleigh - What if she chucked water on ya

Conor - I'd punch her in the face. Just knock her out (punches the air) I'd say, get up off the mat you piece of s**t.

[Timalloy84]

Originally Posted by samhainapples

I disagree that a warning was sufficient and I'm astounded people think it was.

Quite frankly, if Ch5's inaction on kicking Conor out of the House (promptly or at all) means BB dies a death then it's time it died a death.

A reminder of what those above saying they thought a warning was a "sufficient" response to:

Conor - Get your epilator, stick it up your ass. We don't give a f**k, cause i'm gonna f**king smash your face in you f**king piece of sh*t
. I'll give her a fun game, i'll stick this up her f*****g minge the stupid bastard. I'll give her a f*****g epilator (pushes brush upwards)/ I'm gonna play loadsa pranks on her.
Because she's a f*****g piece of s**t. I don't care if i get pulled up to the diary room.

Ashleigh - What if she chucked water on ya

Conor - I'd punch her in the face. Just knock her out (punches the air) I'd say, get up off the mat you piece of s**t.

Once again, missing the point of the post. I did not say a warning was sufficent.

[samhainapples]

Originally Posted by Timalloy84

Once again, missing the point of the post. I did not say a warning was sufficent.

Once again, misreading the post - I did not say you did.

Originally Posted by td1983

Agreed, the moral outrage on here is way OTT. It was an inappropiate set of comments, but the warning was sufficient. I know he'll go now, though-the PC brigade always win in the end these days, sadly.

Feel free to apologise if you're big enough to whenever you're ready, Timalloy84.

[Roger_Smith]

If you saw someone in the house murder another person, would you keep quiet just so you could continue watching the "entertainment"?

How about if someone was stabbed? punched? touched inappropriately? how about a direct threat to kill someone while holding a knife towards them?

The question is where do you draw the line, between justified entertainment, and enjoying something which is either legally or morally wrong.