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Old 30-06-2012, 16:15   #1
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HO - Joel's Accent

Is it just me or does anyone else find Joel's accent on HO slightly forced/annoying?

I am not slamming the actor, I just feel the accent has been slightly emphasized and I do like the character and think there is a lot more to him than what we already know.

I am Scottish myself and whenever I hear an actor or a character with a Scottish accent, I sometimes feel like it has been put on slightly. This could be something to do with the fact that the rest of cast are mainly English/Irish and so this could make Joel's accent stand out a little more.
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Old 30-06-2012, 16:25   #2
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Your scottish so maybe you can notice it more, like I am northern irish and found the accents sounded weird.

I find Joel's accent goes well with the character and he makes the scottish accent sound very sexy
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Old 30-06-2012, 16:43   #3
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Your scottish so maybe you can notice it more, like I am northern irish and found the accents sounded weird.

I find Joel's accent goes well with the character and he makes the scottish accent sound very sexy
I think I do notice it more as I am Scottish and his accent does go with his character because I can't imagine him with any other accent as it wouldn't be Joel. If that makes sense?

I love Irish accents and Brendan has to be my favourite character all because of his accent.

I suppose if there are a small handful of characters with a different accent from the rest of the cast I do feel they stand out which I suppose makes their character stand out so it can be a good thing.

I just cringe when I hear the Scottish accent - especially on Jeremy Kyle but that's another story!!
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Old 01-07-2012, 00:36   #4
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I cringe when I hear Cheryl and (heard) Lindsey...its just not good on the ear. Joel sounds fine, he just can't act very well!
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Old 01-07-2012, 00:40   #5
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He makes the accent sound gurrrrd!

And he is a great actor.
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Old 01-07-2012, 00:44   #6
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I think it really is his accent it's just the Scottish accent is not made for tv. It's gotta be the worst one to try and listen to.
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Old 01-07-2012, 00:51   #7
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He sounds like Drew Mcintyre from the WWE.
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Old 01-07-2012, 01:04   #8
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I think it really is his accent it's just the Scottish accent is not made for tv. It's gotta be the worst one to try and listen to.
There isn't a 'scottish accent' like there isn't an 'english accent' it depends on the part of the country you are from. People from Liverpool sound nothing like the stereotypical view of an English accent just as I, as a Scot, sound nothing like Joel because I am not from Glasgow. This post it actually offensive.

antonialouise93 I know what you mean, I think it just sounds a bit jarring mixed in with the manc accents that most of the rest of the cast have and because we're Scots, we pick up on it more because we're more used to it, I suppose. Having said that, Jack's accent never seems out of place but its less broad than Joel's really.

A few years ago I used to watch River City and there was an English character (Cormac I think) on that and his accent really stood out in a way it wouldn't have if he had been on Hollyoaks. Its the same with Doug as well, I don't think I would notice it as much if PJ were on an American programme. Thats my theory anyway.
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Old 01-07-2012, 01:41   #9
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I like his accent and think it adds to him as a character - it adds to all the other traits he has that makes him different which is good when he could just be another 'bad boy'!
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Old 01-07-2012, 07:19   #10
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I think it really is his accent it's just the Scottish accent is not made for tv. It's gotta be the worst one to try and listen to.
I dunno. I reckon Scots accents generally sounds great and can be easily understood. I haven't a clue which Scottish accent goes with which region, though I do know they differ in intensity. I take it the Glasgow accent is the strongest one?

Andrew in 'Neighbours' has the funniest one as it switches from Scottish to Australian and back again in every sentence!
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Old 01-07-2012, 07:19   #11
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Keep in mind that this is Joel's first proper acting job.
He is learning as he goes along. As for his accent..to me doesnt seem like it's forced. Mmm maybe because in an interview you can understand him a bit but in Oaks lately I find myself having to rewind and all that. Maybe...
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Old 01-07-2012, 07:57   #12
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There isn't a 'scottish accent' like there isn't an 'english accent' it depends on the part of the country you are from. People from Liverpool sound nothing like the stereotypical view of an English accent just as I, as a Scot, sound nothing like Joel because I am not from Glasgow. This post it actually offensive.

antonialouise93 I know what you mean, I think it just sounds a bit jarring mixed in with the manc accents that most of the rest of the cast have and because we're Scots, we pick up on it more because we're more used to it, I suppose. Having said that, Jack's accent never seems out of place but its less broad than Joel's really.

A few years ago I used to watch River City and there was an English character (Cormac I think) on that and his accent really stood out in a way it wouldn't have if he had been on Hollyoaks. Its the same with Doug as well, I don't think I would notice it as much if PJ were on an American programme. Thats my theory anyway.
Sorry if it offends you but I'm from Glasgow and it's my opinion we really do have the worst one to listen to even in terms of the rest of Scotland our accent is the one that comes across worst on tv especially if it is put next to most English accents
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Old 01-07-2012, 09:20   #13
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I like his accent. I think it's charming. I don't think it's forced, or emphasized, at all; if anything, I think he's probably toning it down slightly, but not so much that it doesn't sound natural. Re the Glasgow accent being the 'strongest', there are broad Glasgow accents, cultured Glasgow accents and several degrees in between - same with Edinburgh accents, Aberdeen accents, and so forth. A very broad Glasgow accent probably does sound quite impenetrable to most non-Scots, just as a very broad Liverpool/Manchester/Birmingham accent can to many non-English people, although we non-English have more practice at deciphering English accents, as they are more prevalent on television and radio and in films. Joel's accent, as he uses it in Hollyoaks, is not the broadest by any means. Incidentally, I think he's a very good young actor, and I do agree that Brendan's accent is to die for.
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Old 01-07-2012, 09:37   #14
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I hate to admit it but sometimes i actually can't get a few words he says. Especially if he talks fast.
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Old 01-07-2012, 09:50   #15
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Andrew is from Glasgow which can be a very strong accent. I just have the feeling he has been told to enunciate his words more than he naturally would.
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Old 01-07-2012, 10:09   #16
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I find it slightly irritating too and even I'm Scottish. The Glasgow accent is a bit different to say the Edinburgh one or Dundee one, I can notice it but it's only maybe a bit deeper. It's weird to watch on TV but I think it's got something to do with it being his first job.. if that makes any sense
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Old 01-07-2012, 10:09   #17
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Andrew is from Glasgow which can be a very strong accent. I just have the feeling he has been told to enunciate his words more than he naturally would.
Yes, that's pretty much what I meant by 'toning it down slightly, but not so much that it doesn't sound natural'. Personally, I think that's the way to go, rather than trying to neutralize his accent. That would just make him sound/seem less natural, and he is quite a naturalistic actor, which I like. Besides, variety is the spice of life, in accents as in life generally.
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Old 01-07-2012, 12:53   #18
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I'm Scottish too and it does my box in!
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Old 01-07-2012, 17:50   #19
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Sorry if it offends you but I'm from Glasgow and it's my opinion we really do have the worst one to listen to even in terms of the rest of Scotland our accent is the one that comes across worst on tv especially if it is put next to most English accents
Its ok, I was just crabbit. Thank god I can say that on here on a thread of people who will understand the word. The way it came across was that all of our accents didn't sound nice. I think it depends on the severity of it tbh, someone like David Tennant - I think he's from Paisley - he sounds nice on tv imo. I'm from Fife and, although my accent isn't bad, there are some Fife accents that are flamin awful. I reckon they would sound much worse on tele than a Glasgow one.
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Old 01-07-2012, 17:55   #20
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im not scottish
but i agree with the OP
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Old 01-07-2012, 17:55   #21
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I like his accent, when he first arrived in Hollyoaks I found it hard to understand him but I understand him better now.
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Old 01-07-2012, 17:58   #22
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I like his accent, when he first arrived in Hollyoaks I found it hard to understand him but I understand him better now.
That's all it takes - a little effort and concentration at first, and you soon get used to an unfamiliar accent.
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Old 01-07-2012, 18:06   #23
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I hate to admit it but sometimes i actually can't get a few words he says. Especially if he talks fast.
I don't understand most of what he says
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Old 01-07-2012, 18:08   #24
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His accent does get stronger when he is angry/scared as does mine. I am from a different part of Scotland than him but I think he sounds fine.
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