[Stuart_h]

Anyone else running jelly bean ?

Im finding it MUCH quicker and smoother even than ICS at the mo. Google Now doesnt seem to be doing much as yet but looks like it has potential.

[Stuart_h]

No other Nexus owners tried it yet ??

[Step666]

I'm happy with AOKP, so I'm just going to wait until they release a milestone build based on it.

[Zack06]

Yep have 4.1 on my Nexus. EVERYTHING is soooo much better. Project Butter is amazing, the scrolling, swiping everything is even smoother and faster....

Also Google Now works amazingly for me, showing me bus times weather etc, and I can ask it whatever I want. It also helps that it's smarter than Siri.

It's definitely a minor release, but I love how loads of small tweaks come together to really make the experience that much better. Plus I love the new Galaxy Nexus bootscreen, way way better than the old one. Plus it reminds me of the days when I had a Nexus One...

[Stuart_h]

Originally Posted by Step666

I'm happy with AOKP, so I'm just going to wait until they release a milestone build based on it.

Oh this isnt a buggy release. I've found it more stable than ICS so far ...... but you might miss some of the custom features in your aokp ROM.

[jjesso123]

NO flash for jelly bean

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/t...w/14525248.cms

[Roush]

Originally Posted by jjesso123

NO flash for jelly bean

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/t...w/14525248.cms

NO surprise either. Adobe said back in November that they had ended development of Flash Player for Android, and that ICS would be the last supported version.

They provided further information about the withdrawal of Flash Player for Android a couple of days ago: http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplayer/2...id-update.html

[Stuart_h]

For info flash is running fine on my jellybean nexus. Adobe have said they are not going to guarantee or patch versions on android beyond ICS. They haven't said it won't work. They have even suggested that manufacturers may be able to maintain their own versions for pre-install.

Its not quite black and white yet.

[TheBilly]

How do you lads have it already?

[alanwarwic]

Supported is very very different from not working.

XP will be unsupported soon.

[Roush]

Originally Posted by alanwarwic

Supported is very very different from not working.

It's an important distinction yes, but 'very very different' is an overstatement in this instance.

Adobe ceased development of Flash for Android when the ICS version was released. That version may indeed continue to work for a while on newer releases of Android, but it's only a matter of time before changes to the Android API specifications break compatibility.

It's unclear at this stage whether or not any OEMs who participate in Adobe's partner program will continue to provide compatible versions of Flash for their devices, but the facts that they will no longer have support from Adobe, and no new Flash features will be made available on the mobile platform will doubtlessly weigh into that decision.

Originally Posted by alanwarwic

XP will be unsupported soon.

I'm not sure where you're trying to go with that comparison. An operating system is vasty different to a browser plug-in.

[Stuart_h]

Originally Posted by TheBilly

How do you lads have it already?

At the announcement they gave away nexus's loaded with jelly bean. Some nice souls then uploaded the ROM to XDA developers so there is now a fully flashable ROM for the nexus out there

People are working on ports to other phones but they will take time and be buggy for a while.

The nexus ROM is perfectly stable though and so far bug free.. ..

[Stuart_h]

Originally Posted by Roush

It's an important distinction yes, but 'very very different' is an overstatement in this instance.

Adobe ceased development of Flash for Android when the ICS version was released. That version may indeed continue to work for a while on newer releases of Android, but it's only a matter of time before changes to the Android API specifications break compatibility.

It's unclear at this stage whether or not any OEMs who participate in Adobe's partner program will continue to provide compatible versions of Flash for their devices, but the facts that they will no longer have support from Adobe, and no new Flash features will be made available on the mobile platform will doubtlessly weigh into that decision.



I'm not sure where you're trying to go with that comparison. An operating system is vasty different to a browser plug-in.

Well it works for me at the moment ...... in fact it works much better than it does on my mates iPhone

I'll just wait and see what happens. Hopefully the clever XDA devs will sort something .... and I wouldn't be surprised if Google sort something as it has always been a selling point for android (in some peoples eyes).

[Step666]

Originally Posted by Stuart_h

Oh this isnt a buggy release. I've found it more stable than ICS so far ...... but you might miss some of the custom features in your aokp ROM.

I've not had any stability issues with any of the AOKP builds I've used, so that's not an issue.
And yeah, I've got the notification bar toggles set up, the CPU is under-volted, everything's tweaked.

[Zack06]

Flash is running fine on 4.1, though I imagine it's because the core doesn't have any fundamental changes from 4.0 to break things....that may change in later releases...

The Galaxy Nexus feels like it was made for Jelly Bean, it's so so smooth. I'm seriously impressed, and I definitely think Jelly Bean is a class ahead of WP8 and iOS6. Google really have secured their place in this market, and their market-share just keeps on growing....

[TheBigM]

Originally Posted by Zack06

Flash is running fine on 4.1, though I imagine it's because the core doesn't have any fundamental changes from 4.0 to break things....that may change in later releases...

The Galaxy Nexus feels like it was made for Jelly Bean, it's so so smooth. I'm seriously impressed, and I definitely think Jelly Bean is a class ahead of WP8 and iOS6. Google really have secured their place in this market, and their market-share just keeps on growing....

iOS6 and most of its features have been demo'd now, only some things like NFC are outstanding. Given that most of the end-user features for WP8 have not been shown, not sure how you can conclude Jelly Bean is a class ahead of that.

[alanwarwic]

Originally Posted by Roush

...but it's only a matter of time before changes to the Android API specifications break compatibility.

That is a choice for Google.

None of us quite knows what goes on behind the scenes.

[wildphantom!]

Originally Posted by Zack06

Flash is running fine on 4.1, though I imagine it's because the core doesn't have any fundamental changes from 4.0 to break things....that may change in later releases...

The Galaxy Nexus feels like it was made for Jelly Bean, it's so so smooth. I'm seriously impressed, and I definitely think Jelly Bean is a class ahead of WP8 and iOS6. Google really have secured their place in this market, and their market-share just keeps on growing....

Uh? At least iOS6 will update all the way back to the 3GS and its hard to comment on WP8 as we've seen nothing of the user experience. Jelly Bean will have next to no market share in the coming months as the shamble of ICS seems to continue. Press releases from the major OEM's after 4.1 release...

Samsung

"In the case that a new version of an Android operating system is publicly announced and released, Samsung will review the possibility of implementation to existing Samsung products with the Android operating system ('Update').
"Such a review will be based on various factors including, the overall effect of the update to Samsung products, the system requirements, the structural limitations, and the level of cooperation from the component suppliers and the software licensors.
"If Samsung decides to make the update available to the users it will be released upon successful completion of development."
Google though confirmed in its keynote that Android 4.1 would be coming to the Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus in mid-July.

HTC

HTC is keeping it short and sweet at the moment: "We are excited about Google's unveiling of Android 4.1 Jelly Bean, but don't yet have an announcement about HTC devices running the new OS version, due in the coming months.

Motorola

Motorola has confirmed that it has not released its plans regarding the Jelly Bean update yet.
However Google said it was planning on getting Jelly Bean onto the Xoom tablet in July.

LG

"LG will continue to support the latest android platforms, across LG devices however at present an exact date is not yet confirmed."

Sony

Sony has just got the SDK as part of the developer preview from today, although won’t get the final version until mid-July, so don’t expect it to be any time soon.

It seems to only be the Google handsets (Nexus) but Google need to pull their finger out and 'force' carriers and OEM's to update the software especially the One Series which should come shortly. But because Androids hardware specs are all over the place that won't happen much like WP8 and its hardware limitations.

It's really only 'hardcore' users who will use ROM's and I doubt the general consumer knows what version of Android they are running, some don't even know what OS their phone uses. It seems (to me) that Apple customers know that they will get an 'upgrade' to their iPhone every year and Google and their partners need to do that for their customers as well rather than updates that only ~10% of their user base will have.

[Stuart_h]

Originally Posted by wildphantom!

Uh? At least iOS6 will update all the way back to the 3GS and its hard to comment on WP8 as we've seen nothing of the user experience. Jelly Bean will have next to no market share in the coming months as the shamble of ICS seems to continue. Press releases from the major OEM's after 4.1 release...

Samsung



HTC



Motorola



LG



Sony



It seems to only be the Google handsets (Nexus) but Google need to pull their finger out and 'force' carriers and OEM's to update the software especially the One Series which should come shortly. But because Androids hardware specs are all over the place that won't happen much like WP8 and its hardware limitations.

It's really only 'hardcore' users who will use ROM's and I doubt the general consumer knows what version of Android they are running, some don't even know what OS their phone uses. It seems (to me) that Apple customers know that they will get an 'upgrade' to their iPhone every year and Google and their partners need to do that for their customers as well rather than updates that only ~10% of their user base will have.

Age old argument but Apple has its own fragmentation now. The all will have "IOS6" but which phones will have which features ???? Even ithe iPad2 isnt getting all the features of IOS6 is it ???

seriously.... Apple is now no different ....Have an iPhone 4 ? which bits do you get ? iPhone 3GS ? even fewer ? Go back beyond iPhone 3 and God help you !

Anyway .... back to topic .... im also finding battery life much improved on Jelly Bean

[pi r squared]

I updated to Jelly Bean yesterday in what was a completely painless process. I'm not sure whether I'm treating it as an unreleased final build or a beta, but I'll start with the bad and work to the good: firstly, project butter. After all the hype I was expecting more. I didn't have any problems over the smoothness or speed of ICS so I didn't expect to be blown away, but I also expected it to live up to the hype. Whilst generally smoother and whilst all the animations run nicely (especially the cool new ones), I'm disappointed to still notice lags - for instance when I first bring up the app drawer and then do the first rightwards scroll, there is a noticeable fraction of a second delay. All further scrolls are buttery. I also had some home screen scrolling lag that was worse than any I'd had in ICS, but I haven't been able to recreate that for a little while. There's also sometimes a lag in launching Google Now from the Home button (which incidentally is a great touch).

Secondly, the TTS voices in JB are pretty nice and realistic, so why the hell when I ask Google Voice Search a question does it respond to me in some hideous robotic voice? It's a female British voice reminiscent of the Pico one from pre-ICS, whereas the default British voice in ICS and JB is male, so I don't know where the hell it comes from or how to change it. If I set the phone's language to English (US) then I get responses in the default (and great-sounding) US voice, but the accuracy of the voice recognition understandably drops and I also get crazy stuff like Fahrenheit coming at me! I don't know if this is a beta issue or whether I can still look forward to this on the actual released version later this month.

Onto the good, and there is so much of it it's hard to believe this is supposedly a minor release. This is probably even bigger than the Froyo/Gingerbread jump. The new notifications are fabulous and I like the fact that we FINALLY get contact pictures for SMS and missed call notifications. A much nicer interface on the whole and improvement s on ICS's already brilliant notifications. Google Now is fantastic aside from the issue above, and the voice recognition just seems to be getting more and more accurate. I wish Voice Actions UK were as comprehensive as the US ones but sadly they're not and therefore there is no "remind me to...", etc. With the levels of accuracy they're now hitting, I cannot understand why Google don't release the whole vocab to the UK.

I like the mind-reading powers of Google Now and whilst I will need to use it a lot more I think for it to fully get to know me, I was very impressed when a notification popped up about an hour before a friend's BBQ last night, telling me that I need to leave at 17:25 to make it there on time in the present traffic conditions. I look forward to seeing what else is brought to the table as I use it more and more.

Face Unlock seems a lot quicker in this release and whilst I can appreciate the clever "blink" feature, I have turned it back off because it's unnecessary for me. Even if FU can be unlocked with a photo, anyone who HAS a photo of me in the first place is probably a friend and therefore unlikely to do anything nefarious with my phone.