[karezza1966]

Originally Posted by Goldie Mickens

he sat there like "i'll just stay here right ?" all innocent.

That was nauseating. I hate him for that.

[Goldie Mickens]

Originally Posted by Kezia7

Wasn't that when they were deciding the most attractive not the most bitchy??

mightve been..but he did say something that made him seem like he doesn't with the bitchiest bit anyway.

[LarryHillington]

Loved it when Luke S rag dolled him about the garden. That's what you call karma...

[Enidan]

Originally Posted by LeifOnMars

Enlightement at last. Glory in the experience. It is, certainly, understandable that Luke dislikes Caroline, as she is so immensely disliekable. That is, certainly, the propular opinion, a trend reflected also in the odds on her chances of winning BB, which are non-existent.Did not her own housemates rate her as the bitchiest of the group in a recent evaluation! Luke A, on the other hand, fared considerably better.
Caroline's faults are depressing and plentiful. She is a deeply flawed and unattractive human being, both spiritually and aesthetically. She is lazy, divisive, duplicitous and disruptive. Her redeeming quality is her wonderful pretentiousness, enormously amusing as she is such an emptyheaded windbag.

Yes yes, I've read all that a thousand times before and that's just today.

But does all the above mean she's not allowed to find Luke A boring and uninteresting because he has had gender assignment?

[clarence12]

Id just like to see him smile more often and engage with the others - saw from the tweets he was hugging Shievonne so who knows. On the h/L only ever see him in garden chain smoking lol

[Goldie Mickens]

Originally Posted by karezza1966

That was nauseating. I hate him for that.

he is not fit to wear Versace jewellery.

[jeanoj]

Originally Posted by LarryHillington

His stock has really fallen this week. He was 4/1 fav at the beginning of the week but he's now dropped to 13/2 third fav.

I think both the housemates and the general public are wising up to this chancer.

Caroline was right when she described him as a weirdo. He storms about that house like a stroppy teenager at times but seems unwilling to take people on face to face. Most of his work is done behind people's backs.

Yesterday there was an issue regarding people opening tins but not eating them. Lauren told Luke A that the other housemates were annoyed because Luke A was so angry about it. In an aggressive manner he storms off as if he's about to confront them but as soon he gets into the bedroom to speak to them he turns into a little mouse and quickly backs down.

It comes down to one or two things -- either he's a coward when it comes to confronting people or he intentionally holds back because he is so desperate to win. He doesn't want to give them a reason to nominate him. It's as if he loses the rag initially but he then quickly reigns himself in and gets the game face on.

Either way, I really don't like him. He is an extremely odd and bitchy character and I hope he's up for eviction next week.

Please give it a rest. We know you don't like Luke A but no amount of threads slating him will sway his supporters - we like him so why not move on to something else?

[jeanoj]

Originally Posted by karezza1966

That was nauseating. I hate him for that.

I thought you hated him before that?

[karezza1966]

Originally Posted by jeanoj

I thought you hated him before that?

Hatred can increase.

[Jak14]

Originally Posted by LarryHillington

You are doing him no favours whatsoever by bringing his gender reassignment into it. He should be treated the same as everyone else and I'm sure even Luke would want that.

This week, for the first time, you just get the impression that the tide is turning. People are starting to see the real Luke A.

You just get the feeling he wants to get one or two things off his chest but he either doesn't have the guts to confront people or he is holding back due to his sheer desperation to win the show. Either way it doesn't look good on him.

Nobody likes a two faced bitch who refuses to deal with their issues head on. That's exactly what he is.

That describes all the HM's Why pick on just one?
The up front people Chris, Benedict, Lydia have all been evicted, so from that perspective he's being clever.

[wonkeydonkey]

Originally Posted by occulta7

seriously I pity him because when the shite hits the fan he'll have nowhere to run and hide then!

Does this mean anything at all? I guess not. As you were.

Originally Posted by Goldie Mickens

he sat there like "i'll just stay here right ?" all innocent.

You obviously didn't understand the first thing about the task. He had to make an intelligent guess as how bitchy SOMEONE ELSE would judge him to be. He judged that he would be seen as the least bitchy. No one in the team disagreed with that. He was right, as they were: Sheivonne spotted immediately that he was at the 'least' end of the sofa.

[jeanoj]

Originally Posted by karezza1966

Hatred can increase.

How sad.

[Speak-Softly]

Originally Posted by LeifOnMars

Enlightement at last. Glory in the experience. It is, certainly, understandable that Luke dislikes Caroline, as she is so immensely disliekable. That is, certainly, the propular opinion, a trend reflected also in the odds on her chances of winning BB, which are non-existent.Did not her own housemates rate her as the bitchiest of the group in a recent evaluation! Luke A, on the other hand, fared considerably better.
Caroline's faults are depressing and plentiful. She is a deeply flawed and unattractive human being, both spiritually and aesthetically. She is lazy, divisive, duplicitous and disruptive. Her redeeming quality is her wonderful pretentiousness, enormously amusing as she is such an emptyheaded windbag.

BIB

Exactly the same could be said for Luke A.

In all previous BB's, the one who stubbonly always occupies the smoking area, the one who is always there to be the sounding board for other people bitching as well as putting in their own twopennyworth, the one who spies on the others messing around and comments on what they get up to, has always been universally seen as a bitch.

Luke A nice?
He's just this years incarnation of Lisa BB10.

[wonkeydonkey]

Originally Posted by Speak-Softly

BIB

Exactly the same could be said for Luke A.

In all previous BB's, the one who stubbonly always occupies the smoking area, the one who is always there to be the sounding board for other people bitching as well as putting in their own twopennyworth, the one who spies on the others messing around and comments on what they get up to, has always been universally seen as a bitch.

Luke A nice?
He's just this years incarnation of Lisa BB10.

He is nothing at all like Lisa (whom I didn't mind, but who had a wildly different personality). Why use emotive words like 'spying on' as if he creeps round listening at doors and peering through keyholes? It is both silly and nasty to pretend that his perfectly ordinary presence in a house full of people makes him a 'spy' because, not being blind, he can see what other people do in front of him.

And furthermore, choosing an unpopular housemate from the past in the hope of tarring a present day one with the same brush is the cheapest of cheap tricks. I bet you can't think of another series in which someone who spent a lot of time in the smoking area was 'universally seen as a bitch'. Sara BB9 comes to mind as always being in the smoking area. Is Luke A the new Sara?

[Silveer]

Originally Posted by LeifOnMars

An uncharitable assessment of someone suffering the trauma of gender reconstruction who is, understandably, sensitive to how he is being perceived and who is, therefore, inclined to to keep a lo profile and disinclined to conduct himself like halfwit, Conor, or nauseating Caroline. Apropos Caroline, one cannot help but wonder how deeply her dislike of him is steeped in his gender issue. Given her childish reaction to Benedict's opinion of masturbation, it is reasonable to suggest that her mind is as closed as her intolerance of Luke A is rampant. She would benefit from emulating Luke by energetically walking around the house and shedding some weight. She is a deeply unpleasant, manipulative, deceitful and unkind person.

Yea it doesn't surprise me that Luke A isn't an obnoxious confrontational person. For some reason, many people seem to resent him for that, apparently.

[Talullahmay]

Originally Posted by Inconjunct

Luke A has to have regular injections of testosterone. I should imagine the spike in testosterone that follows these injections may well make him temporarily more angry and potentially aggressive. He probably holds back because he's a little worried about how far he might go. Whats more, he is in a minority of one in that house and it seems to me only Becky has made any serious attempt to get to grips with the issues he faces as a trans man; the rest have all been very accepting and nice, true, but as much as he might not want it to be the sole topic of conversation, he might also like it acknowledged from time to time that things may be more difficult for him because of his transition.

I don't mind Luke A, But lets not forget he alone made the decision to enter the BB house, I don't see why anyone including the housemates should have to make excuses for him, It's abit like saying, Well Lauren was on her period so she was more emotional, So lets forget she did A, B C, He knew what he was facing before he entered the house...Like they all did,!

[Enidan]

Originally Posted by Silveer

Yea it doesn't surprise me that Luke A isn't an obnoxious confrontational person. For some reason, many people seem to resent him for that, apparently.

Most people seem pretty neutral to Luke A, he gets a bit of criticism but a lot less than anyone else, bar Sara.
I think many people are just willing him to do something. He's got an army of people who really want to support him but he needs to give us a little more IMHO.

[clarence12]

Originally Posted by Jak14

The up front people ... Lydia have all been evicted,.

LOL

mock Conor voice "Are you for real?"

[wonkeydonkey]

Originally Posted by Enidan

Most people seem pretty neutral to Luke A, he gets a bit of criticism but a lot less than anyone else, bar Sara.
I think many people are just willing him to do something. He's got an army of people who really want to support him but he needs to give us a little more IMHO.

There is surely no one who tries harder at the tasks. I am not sure what you want him to do? He is obviously very active in the house and seems to mix well with everyone except Luke S, Ashleigh, Caroline and maybe Sheivonne (though I don't think he knows that she has a problem with him). If you are waiting for him to pick fights or start a romance you will probably wait in vain, and I confess that he has not chucked any bowls of fishy water over anyone; but I would say that he has really thrown himself into the BB experience in a positive way.

[ruffle]

great housemate love him and he is smart he new the insiders would self destruct

[bystander]

Originally Posted by Enidan

Most people seem pretty neutral to Luke A, he gets a bit of criticism but a lot less than anyone else, bar Sara.
I think many people are just willing him to do something. He's got an army of people who really want to support him but he needs to give us a little more IMHO.

I don't think he has much more to give and it's very unlikely he'll all of a sudden produce some spectacular confrontational fireworks, although he is in need of making some good use of a rocket.

[haphash]

I'm amazed that Luke A can be labelled bitchy by some people on here given the huge amount of bitching and nastiness that has gone on inside the house by other people. So what qualifies as bitching? Its obvious they will all talk about each other. I think real bitchiness is when you say nasty things that are blatantly untrue to stir trouble.

The only person I have heard Luke A say anything remotely nasty about is Luke S. Obviously their personalities do not gel. Luke S is too confident, arrogant and full of himself for Luke A to like him.

Luke A's main problem is that he needs to be involved more.

[Luthien]

Hormones or not, I think he is quite bitchy and focusses his aggression on people he feels intimidated by. However, I think most of the housemates are pretty horrible.

[haphash]

IMO Luke is a normal average sort of guy and not a 'big' overly dramatic character. His gender reassignment is probably the reason he was picked to be on the show but personality wise he is just a regular guy. He seems quite a decent person though so I don't understand why he is getting mud slung at him here when there are some rather nasty characters in the house this year that are far more deserving.

[Jakobjoe]

Nice is sometimes so boring