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Old 08-07-2012, 15:35   #201
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The link I provided above is the ICS base source for Galaxy Nexus + proprietary binaries. How is that closed source?

Or are you going to say Google have said this as well?
See post 197.

Your link does not provide the factory source code for the Galaxy Nexus. It provides the source code for the AOSP release of Android 4.x.
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Old 08-07-2012, 15:56   #202
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See post 197.

Your link does not provide the factory source code for the Galaxy Nexus. It provides the source code for the AOSP release of Android 4.x.
The factory source code is built from the source code detailed, the retail version has a small variation as it also includes the proprietary/trade secret code already mentioned. Is this your argument

When I rebuild my Galaxy Nexus with the Android source available on the site, I get ICS 4.0.4. I dont get Googles special sauce but it is proprietary so you wouldnt expect me to.
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Old 08-07-2012, 20:30   #203
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Google have never specified that all versions of the Galaxy Nexus run closed source Android...it's clear someone is on a crusade to try and make it look as if Google are just like Apple.

The HSPA+ Galaxy Nexus does not run a closed build of Android. The LTE version was developed in co-operation with Verizon and includes extra code to optimise LTE hardware just as the HSPA+ version includes it's own software enhancements. It has nothing to do with Android being close source, it is specific tweaks that Google is protecting, as the LTE and HSPA+ versions run different builds. The HSPA+ is like every other Nexus device before it.

Google have never explicitly said that ALL versions of the GN are running closed builds of Android, and that is a misinterpretation.

The Nexus 7 and Galaxy Nexus (HSPA+) both run build JRN84D of Jelly Bean, so I highly doubt that Google is cooking separate secret builds of Android for the Galaxy Nexus....they were most likely protecting specific software enhancements for the device and nothing else.
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Old 09-07-2012, 09:00   #204
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The factory source code is built from the source code detailed, the retail version has a small variation as it also includes the proprietary/trade secret code already mentioned. Is this your argument

When I rebuild my Galaxy Nexus with the Android source available on the site, I get ICS 4.0.4. I dont get Googles special sauce but it is proprietary so you wouldnt expect me to.
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Google have never specified that all versions of the Galaxy Nexus run closed source Android...it's clear someone is on a crusade to try and make it look as if Google are just like Apple.

The HSPA+ Galaxy Nexus does not run a closed build of Android. The LTE version was developed in co-operation with Verizon and includes extra code to optimise LTE hardware just as the HSPA+ version includes it's own software enhancements. It has nothing to do with Android being close source, it is specific tweaks that Google is protecting, as the LTE and HSPA+ versions run different builds. The HSPA+ is like every other Nexus device before it.

Google have never explicitly said that ALL versions of the GN are running closed builds of Android, and that is a misinterpretation.

The Nexus 7 and Galaxy Nexus (HSPA+) both run build JRN84D of Jelly Bean, so I highly doubt that Google is cooking separate secret builds of Android for the Galaxy Nexus....they were most likely protecting specific software enhancements for the device and nothing else.

I'm glad I have an iPad.
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Old 09-07-2012, 11:54   #205
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I'm glad I have an iPad.
I'm going to have both!
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Old 09-07-2012, 12:13   #206
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I'm glad I have an iPad.
I'm glad I don't.
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Old 09-07-2012, 13:18   #207
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An in depth review.

It is long so best ignore the initial space filling 'babble paragraphs' and read from the 'Body' header.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/...tic-200-tablet

Some of the concerns are rather strange such mentioning that a few 3rd party applications still lag'.
Obviously a badly written app is a badly written app.
And obviously promoting separate phone and tablet apps is wrong. They are surely badly written, immature or just targeted for commercial reasons.

And from a technical viewpoint lengthily judging the camera using Skype video chat whilst ignoring actual video recording is a tad peculiar.
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Old 09-07-2012, 15:54   #208
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Accessorize!

http://www.popherald.com/2012-07-08-news-id-3-18614
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Old 09-07-2012, 16:01   #209
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Bit pricey, and don't think you can order them yet. I'm sure loads of cases will be available on Ebay and Amazon soon.

edit: apparently some of Kindle Fire cases fit just fine.
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Old 09-07-2012, 16:10   #210
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And from a technical viewpoint lengthily judging the camera using Skype video chat whilst ignoring actual video recording is a tad peculiar.
in terms of usage of a rear-facin camera doesn't sound too unreasonable.

I had a play with similar sized tablets today (the Samsung 7") and found to my pleasant surprise 7" tablets do sit nicely in my inside coat pocket. Time to get ordering I think!!
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Old 09-07-2012, 16:34   #211
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Bit pricey, and don't think you can order them yet. I'm sure loads of cases will be available on Ebay and Amazon soon.

edit: apparently some of Kindle Fire cases fit just fine.
Yep I reckon there will be loads of cheap covers. That's nearly a quarter of the tablet price I notice!
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Old 09-07-2012, 16:51   #212
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Yep I reckon there will be loads of cheap covers. That's nearly a quarter of the tablet price I notice!
I've got a cheapo one on order - which should suffice initially. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Standby-Prot...849023&sr=8-13
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Old 09-07-2012, 17:16   #213
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50 ****ing dollars for a cover. **** that. i would expect to pay a fiver.
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Old 09-07-2012, 17:23   #214
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in terms of usage of a rear-facin camera doesn't sound too unreasonable.
Front facing you mean but to only test the camera surely video recordings are the sensible way, not the vagaries of VOIP + VIP. (not sure if I just made up the term VIP)

It was still a half decent review, it just left me wondering a bit about the actual camera. Obviously with Skype,low resolution often works better.
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Old 09-07-2012, 17:25   #215
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I've got a cheapo one on order - which should suffice initially. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Standby-Prot...849023&sr=8-13
Much better! I'll have the red one.
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Old 09-07-2012, 19:04   #216
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I'm considering getting the Nexus 7 but does it have a SD or Micro SD slot?
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Old 09-07-2012, 19:08   #217
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I'm considering getting the Nexus 7 but does it have a SD or Micro SD slot?
Is this a meme now or something?
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Old 09-07-2012, 21:11   #218
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Is this a meme now or something?
I want to know if a 32GB version is available.
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Old 09-07-2012, 21:18   #219
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I want to know if a 32GB version is available.
It really annoys me when silly question like that are asked, they do it with Apple devices all the time...

Does it have 3G? Does it have a removable battery? Will it make my tea?

Bah! Look up the damn specs!!
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Is this a meme now or something?
A trend where instead of criticising the question gets asked time and time again?

Or the trend where functionality is removed in order to assist in future profits?
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Old 09-07-2012, 21:33   #221
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A trend where instead of criticising the question gets asked time and time again?

Or the trend where functionality is removed in order to assist in future profits?
It's already been answered in the thread multiple times!

This isnt a one tablet fits all and why should it be?
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Old 09-07-2012, 21:45   #222
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This isnt a one tablet fits all and why should it be?
The evolution of the computer was always to do more so anything that leads to less always seems backwards.

It even leads to silly questions.
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Old 09-07-2012, 21:48   #223
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It really annoys me when silly question like that are asked, they do it with Apple devices all the time...

Does it have 3G? Does it have a removable battery? Will it make my tea?

Bah! Look up the damn specs!!
Well! Does it have one or not?
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Old 09-07-2012, 21:50   #224
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Well! Does it have one or not?
Lol I knew this was a windup!

It has 6 SD card slots but don't quote me on that!
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Old 09-07-2012, 22:16   #225
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Lol I knew this was a windup!

It has 6 SD card slots but don't quote me on that!
I was going to go for the Disgo 9104 tablet but that only has 1 SD slot.

The Nexus 7 sounds a lot better.
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