[HarrisonMarks]

All those French films of the sixties where dull people sit around talking subtitled bollocks, chainsmoking and occasionally jumping into bed with each other where they proceed to produce even more bollocktalk and consume even more fags.
Usually by the time they reached the cinema at least one of the cast or the director himself had topped himself, ensuring a five-star review.

[revolver44]

Originally Posted by Iggyman

I just bought Blade Runner (The Final Cut) on Blu-ray - the picture quality is, quite simple, gorgeous.

Sorry, off topic.

Treat yourself to the US blu-ray boxset, amazing collection. And yes, the picture on the Final Cut is astonishing

[Voynich]

Originally Posted by Gary Glimmer

Future prediction...

... The Hobbit.

Anyone who talks about these films and uses the words 'the book' at any point, should be shot.

That's going to be hard seeing as the book is loved by so many for decades!

[leaby]

Originally Posted by PhoenixRises

You get that with a few films - I remember inception comments if someone didn't like that they were said to be too thick to understand it. Not that some people just could possibly dislike the film it must be something to do with the ability to comprehend the brilliance

I didn't mind the film as it happens but I felt sorry for those trying to swim the tide of backlash they were getting for disliking a film

I also think that not understanding a film is a perfectly sound reason to dislike it anyway. Obviously there's only so much critique you can do, but I never understood the appeal of watching a film that is going to go all out to confuse the f**k out of you. I like to be challenged but that can be maintained within a coherent plot.

[Gary Glimmer]

Originally Posted by Voynich

That's going to be hard seeing as the book is loved by so many for decades!

Err title of the thread?

[SHAFT]

Any David Lynch or Peter Greenaway film.

[treefr0g]

Originally Posted by Mr Teacake

The Dark Knight - you aint a fan til you cried over Heath Ledger's performance. Another 'in' film to adore that is actually rubbish.

Pulp fiction - nonsense, but was glamorous. You aint cool til you use some of the quotes from it.

Pulp Fiction was the first film I thought of when I saw the thread title closely followed by Kill Bill.

I'm sure there are a lot of people who enjoy these films for all the right reasons but imo there are many that say that they enjoyed them a lot more than they did.

Love Tarantino + Hate 'Avatar' and 'Ttitanic' = cool.

[Alrightmate]

Are we talking about fans now, or the films which they are fans of?

Reading through the thread half of the posts appear to be slagging off films, so it's hard to get the measure of what the thread is actually about.
Films, or their fans?

[Margo Channing]

Star wars - for obvious reasons

[cmq2]

Originally Posted by Alrightmate

Are we talking about fans now, or the films which they are fans of?

Reading through the thread half of the posts appear to be slagging off films, so it's hard to get the measure of what the thread is actually about.
Films, or their fans?

I would ban the use of 'over-rated' and 'pretentious' from film forums. The terms are mostly used as generic thoughtless put-downs. As post #12 said you need to explain why the views held by others are false and not just allege it.

[Johnbee]

< I would ban the use of 'over-rated' and 'pretentious' from film forums>

Banning it is a bit strong. Sometimes it is merely a straight statement. For example to say that Last Year In Marienbad is pretentious (which I have heard a few times) is I suppose intended to criticise it, but in fact is merely describing it, i.e. it is no more a crticism of it than saying that Delphine Seyrig is in it.

People who say it is pretentious intending it as a criticism in fact just don't get it and it would be better for them to just say they didn't like it.

I had better explain a little about 'not geting it' because people will possibly think it is just an insult (as they do when people say, instead, they just don't understand it)

Take The Godfather, Part 2. It won an Oscar for best film, and is enormously touted by some as a rare sequel as good as the original. My take on The Godfather part 2 is that I have tried to watch it three times on TV, because the original was OK, and can not sit through it. My short comment on it is that I just don't get it.

[Johnbee]

Further to that however, the guy who thinks that French New Wave films are not good should most definitely be banned from seeing any film ever until he relents.

Spielberg picked Truffaut for a part in Close Encounters because of The 400 Blows. If the guy thinks he knows more about film than Speilberg then he needs to think about who is being pretentious.

[Mr Teacake]

Originally Posted by treefr0g

Hate 'Ttitanic' = cool.

I do think Titanic gets a lot of stick because some people perhaps don't want to claim they like a film with a predominantly romantic storyline.

[brangdon]

Originally Posted by Iggyman

Fans of Prometheus - apparently those of us who disliked it are "too stupid to understand it". That would be fair enough if it was true, but honestly, the story is dead simple. Unfortunately, so is the script and dialogue; so simple as to be ill-conceived and poorly executed.

Hmmm. I found it hard to understand why the characters do what they do at any given moment. Sometimes that's because it's stupid, and sometimes it's because the motive isn't conveyed clearly on-screen. I feel there was a good film in there, struggling to get out. If you can't see that but I can, I guess that makes me pretentious.

Originally Posted by Gary Glimmer

Anyone who talks about these films and uses the words 'the book' at any point,

I'm guilty with a lot of the films mentioned. If a scene isn't in the book, then it didn't happen, and Jackson, Walsh and Boyens should have known better.

But at least these are great books. Worse are people who talk about films like Resident Evil and use the words "the game."

[Deserana 12]

Jeez. Yet ANOTHER thread in DS that has just turned into "Films that I don't like". Completely ignoring the thread topic. The overuse of the words "Pretentious" and "Overhyped" by posters who clearly have no ideas what they mean. Some posters being completely ignorant of some films, The Dark Knight fans being pretntious because they say the film is too dark? Take a look at the source material and realise the films are bang on in tone and mood.

Then the predictable "Gotfather 2 is overrated" well its not. You just don't like it. A poster a few posts up got it bang on they said they didn't like it but said its more due to it not being their thing, not saying that the other millions of people who like it are wrong. Plus how does saying that even relate to what the thread is? This happens to a lot of Movie threads on DS.

[samcains90]

Twilight Fans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGz9F...1&feature=plcp

[Johnbee]

Good one Des.

However, there is another point. In truth I like some films, Harold and Maude, Ed Wood, Johnny Guitar, Vanishing Point, Gloria , Some Like it Hot for examples, that are not very popular, and I am afraid to admit that when this is sometimes called pretentious, I secretly quite like it when people say that. It puts me as somehow discerning when people don't believe that I really like those films, and in fact am baffled as to why other people don't.

[Eraserhead]

Originally Posted by SHAFT

Any David Lynch or Peter Greenaway film.

Very true. I think it's a problem with film makers who use a lot of symbolism- it brings out the pretentious tw*ts who think they're really clever in understanding what's going on.

I'd add Kubrick films to the list of (sometimes) pretentious fans as well. Think of how over-analysed 2001 A Space Odyssey has been over the years.

[Aarghawasp!]

Aye I've met a few pretentious David Lynch fans.

Very true. I think it's a problem with film makers who use a lot of symbolism- it brings out the pretentious tw*ts who think they're really clever in understanding what's going on.

By Eraserhead.

[Johnny Clay]

Originally Posted by Eraserhead

I'd add Kubrick films to the list of (sometimes) pretentious fans as well. Think of how over-analysed 2001 A Space Odyssey has been over the years.

Burn the Heathen! Burn! Burn!

Actually, you've got a point. 2001 is up there with Psycho for over-analysis. And it's not as if that's the issue anyway. Kubrick himself said it's the mood and feel that matter - a film should be a sensory experience first and foremost. The meaning, should you wish, comes later.

You can apply this to all his films in a way - and for some of us fans that's the real appeal.

[Dai13371]

Originally Posted by Gary Glimmer

http://www.richersounds.com/products...arates/blu-ray

http://www.base.com/Hw/a/1000084982/...8a046a6dffd86d

**** me there are some bargains there.

[PhoenixRises]

Originally Posted by samcains90

Twilight Fans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGz9F...1&feature=plcp

That is not pretentiousness that is scary, disturbing and slightly crazy, or a really obsessive fan as they are commonly referred as.

[Dr. Linus]

Christopher Nolan has some incredibly pretentious fans who are rearing their head again lately, who like to think that not only is The Dark Knight the greatest film ever made, but that it has changed cinema forever - when in fact, it hasn't even really changed the superhero genre, let alone the whole industry. An old-fashioned superhero movie that defies everything The Dark Knight is about just made half a billion dollars more at the box office in half the time.

It's fine to think they're the best films ever, but the man on the street now only remembers The Joker and that Heath Ledger died - and like it or not, Heath Ledger's death was by far the biggest reason that The Dark Knight went massive and only a fool would dispute that. I'm a big fan of Nolan and especially The Dark Knight, but I would never be so deluded as to ignore the fact that the superhero genre has now completely moved on from it, and it's not even a footnote in the history of cinema itself, just a really well-loved film.

[Cadiva]

Originally Posted by Aneechik

No. If the thread is about which films have fans who are w.nkers, say "which films have fans who are w.nkers?". Pretentious means pretentious, not w.nker.

Well said.

[lisa_joli]

Most pretentious fans? Those who quote lines of dialogue from Woody Allen or Tarantino films.