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I think we're to presume the book is about living your life like each day is your last, well that type of book anyway, hence why he left it for her, as a kind of explanation, guidance to his life. His way of letting her in. I really dont think its the last we've seen of it. I think she'll find it hard to shut him out, with such a fasinating, annoying, quirky character around you like that, you cant help but be interested by them, I dont think its the last we've seen of the nights in the caravan... But as far as a happy ending is concerned, not a chance ![]() I think Im backing Luc's corner over his disapearance because we dont know the full story. Alot of people on here have been quick to be annoyed by him now & I think its important not to be until we know the story. When he comes back with no excuse....then I'll be annoyed. But I think I'll save my judgement until we have a clearer picture.... Im sticking with hes a good guy for the moment. Nothing else hes done has lead me to believe any different. If someone I knew up and left like that I be more concerned than annoyed... Also just noticed how last weeks episode was called 'A long way down' & this weeks was called 'After the fall' *sigh*
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I loved Joseph's dark side and cheered so loud when he beat up Linden! I loved that Jac really saw his dark side (and he hers) and that they totally accepted that about each other - it made them so complex and interesting. Linden had the potential to be a great character, but they made him all drippy and sanctimonious (and also hypocritical about Faye/Joseph) and by the time he was killed off I couldn't have cared less. If they had paired him off with Maddie there might have been some hope for him but they messed up badly putting him with Faye. She dragged him down and destroyed him. So why are they doing it yet again with Sasha and Chrissie???? They have a real knack for taking a good character, pairing them with a waste of space (Faye, Sahira, Chrissie) and ruining their potential. I hope Sasha comes to his senses soon and dumps the Holby bike (crude description, but accurate). |
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This is where I love being part of a forum like this. There was me thinking I was the only one who saw the potential between Linden and Maddie but here are a lot of you who feel the same way!
I felt similar to you Collins1965, I really liked Linden when he joined but just felt he needed to "loosen up" a bit. Instead he got increasingly serious and dour and then he fell for Faye. Ugh. I just didn't believe that he would have kissed Faye on her wedding day. I think Maddie would have brought out some of the fun he once had. And hatz, you're not the only one still sticking up for Luc, despite the fact I don't agree with what he's done. You're right, we have had nothing to suggest that he there is any intentional meanness in Luc. I genuinely believe that he thought he was doing the best/right thing. If he comes back without a good excuse, then I'll be angry (mostly with the writers!). So yeah, that's why I hope they do this storyline justice, because I *really* don't like it when you invest/connect with a character and then they suddenly seem to change and you end up thinking, "Have I got it wrong all along?". |
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I love Holby, but it does seem to have a knack for keeping annoying characters for too long, and they in turn ruin the great ones.
Linden was a brilliant character with lots of potential, who was ruined by the terminally horrendous Faye, Chrissie leeches the life out of all the (many) men she has and generally irritates on a grand scale, and Sahira dragged all the fun out of poor Greg, who was originally a flirty, happy go lucky charmer. I don't mind the Leddi ship, but still haven't warmed to Eddi completely, her best moments for me were when she was paired up with the amazing Frieda. Am a bit worried that Chrissie might want to get her tarty claws into Luc when he returns, surely she'll have broken Sasha's heart by then and be ready to move onto her next conquest
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Glad you think the same! Luc, so far, has done nothing horrible to anyone. His morals, attitude to patients, and general being a doctor are spot on. Hes not a nasty character. Infact I think hes very vulnerable, sweet natured person, who really does mean well, but is bizarre/ unsociable because of something in his past.Agreed, I think he thought he was doing the best thing, almost saving her from himself, but like I say, he comes back with no excuse, then I'll be annoyed- At the writers as well! We dont know the full story, and without knowing the facts about someone, you cant judge what they do. I'll stick to team Luc for now and thats not to say I dont feel for Eddi....I really do ![]() Also something thats just bugging me....Can she not just text/call him...even if she texts him abuse! and even if he doesnt reply or whatever. Modern technology these days...just fabulous! Means people cant just fall off the end of the earth... Hoping they are going to includ some missed calls or texts from him in later episodes..maybe a letter!
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I got to say, I still have a soft spot for Luc even now, I couldn’t hate him even if I tried. I would probably forgive him for going AWOL, and there must have been a reason why he suddenly left. Luc’s heart in the right place and he is quite a decent and caring personality beneath his eccentricities, he goes out of his way (even to jeopardise his career) to help the under-dog and those on the fringes of society. He definitely has strong feelings for Eddi but there is something (perhaps from his past) stopping him from revealing himself emotionally and physically. I noticed when Eddi questioned him about his contract after he talked to Hanssen and when she was questioning him about how to get a sample from Noah, his reactions sometimes would be to get up and walk away instead of counter arguing with her. I hope the writers do Luc’s story (and his relationship with Eddi) justice and give a good reason as we have invested our time and affection for these characters and want them to succeed as memorable characters in the later years in their story in the series. I mean, do the producers check out the storyline and have the right of veto or not? Surely they don’t want to insult the viewer’s intelligence by giving such a weak excuse. Does the actor also have an input as well in the way the want their character to go? |
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[quote=hatz;59514714]Maddie and Linden really should have been! I agree, she would have brought him alive again, the clips we saw of him when with his wife were lovely. He was lovely.
Glad you think the same! Luc, so far, has done nothing horrible to anyone. His morals, attitude to patients, and general being a doctor are spot on. Hes not a nasty character. Infact I think hes very vulnerable, sweet natured person, who really does mean well, but is bizarre/ unsociable because of something in his past.Agreed, I think he thought he was doing the best thing, almost saving her from himself, but like I say, he comes back with no excuse, then I'll be annoyed- At the writers as well! We dont know the full story, and without knowing the facts about someone, you cant judge what they do. I'll stick to team Luc for now and thats not to say I dont feel for Eddi....I really do ![]() Also something thats just bugging me....Can she not just text/call him...even if she texts him abuse! and even if he doesnt reply or whatever. Modern technology these days...just fabulous! Means people cant just fall off the end of the earth... Hoping they are going to includ some missed calls or texts from him in later episodes..maybe a letter![/QUOTE]Yes, that is very strange too in this day and age of mobile phone technology and email. Also, Michael questioned Eddi about Luc's whereabouts and if his return is soon or not but Eddi just didn't give anything away. So, we don't know if she is in contact with Luc or not or she doesn't want to tell anyone she is or isn't. Hope you guys/gals get my drift here. Its abit confusing. |
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Perhaps Eddi does know something and is just upset about him not being there. I hope we do hear from him before his return or I hope Hanssen mentions something about him having a break causing Eddi to contact him. I like it when characters are key to a storyline without even bing in it!
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To be honest as long as we get the banter we had before he left I'll be happy... Look at how much she hated him when he arrived and then how that turned out... ![]() As for the actors having input, I dont think so. I read in an interview that Joseph Millson doesnt like reading ahead about the storylines, but SJP does and she always tries to tell him what happens ![]() aww!
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I hope the writers up the ante and bring out some crackling dialogue and great scenes when the couple are back on the screen because its their verbal spats that really makes them shine, also even when they don't say much to each other but react to each other when they are alone (the scene where Eddi silently helps Luc tidy up his trashed camper van) it is quite charming. AAU is quite dull without Luc, even Sacha must be missing his playstation partner. Hope Luc does his U turn soon. |
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Then he proceeds to spend the next 18 months moping around after her, giving 'advice' on her and Joseph's relationship, judging Joseph for any contact with Jac when he is being just as bad if not worse and then when he finally gets her, he gets huffy about the divorce and dumps her when she's 6 months pregnant despite having assured and promised her that he'd stand by her though I suppose she shouldn't have expected any different after the way he palmed Holly off on someone else after his wife's death. It's actually the only time I ever felt sorry for Faye - he was a wretched waste of space. There we go - rant over. I actually think that the audience thought that Joseph and Faye was going to be the 'big' romance of that time - the one the audience were rooting for and Linden and Jac's involvement was designed as nothing more than disruptions along the way to true love - indeed Locked Away was written like that with Faye telling Linden how much she loved Joseph and Joseph telling Jac that although he still loved her, he could never be with her again - I think it was designed to be closure for them. However, the audience never really invested in Joseph and Faye but mostly seemed to want a Joseph and Jac reconciliation and if anything Locked Away made that even more appealing - at which point I think the writers changed their mind about it all. Faye did seem to go off him very quickly after they married despite him being wonderfully supportive during and in the wake of Archie's death. I don't know why they seem to think that people want Sacha and Chrissie together, or even that people want or think that Chrissie deserves a happy ending but they do. Most people I've talked about it to, online and in real life don't forget her hospital bike days or the number of marriages she's broken up and don't think she deserves the love of a good man at all. It's like a couple of weeks ago when she made that crack about having a 'real family' to go home to - how nice for you after all the ones you've destroyed like Owen and his first wife and then Diane and also Alastair and Janice. I know these men could have resisted but she was the chaser every time. Especially as she said it to Michael - a man whose family was on the other side of the world and she knew he was missing and Eddi who had just been dumped and lost any potential dreams of a family with Luc. Oh and Jac, whose mother has abandoned her twice - first time at 12. Horrid, hateful woman, and yet I think the writers see her as a heroine. |
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Fair point mind, If I was an actress I'd want the same. I suppose actors/actress know their character better than the writer eventually, especially seeing as there are a number of writers. But I agree, if they've got something amazing in thier heads and the actor doesnt agree, they'd still do it anyway, especially if it was an exit stroyline. |
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Especilly for those Luc and Eddi shippers, I found this video montage on them on youtube.Yes, I know I have way too much time on my hands at the moment.
Its kind a cute, don't you think ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjFybh7n9xc |
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Hatz, if he doesn't have a suitable explanation for his whereabouts, I still have a feeling that I will have a soft spot for him.
I'm glad that the writers have chosen this direction, as it is in keeping for his character. If he were to suddenly start the IKEA stage with Eddi after Luc's 6 month introduction as a detached person, it wouldn't flow properly. Another thing (not about Leddi): Did we (or will we) get a replacement for Greg up on Darwin? Sahira and Greg left and CTU shut - fine. Then we get the "transplant miracle unit" who always have something to do, it seems. What with the baby and everything, it seems Mo is the new Sahira. Then Jonny is apparently the new Greg. So we get a nurse for a doctor. Anyone else not seeing the continuity, and slightly concerned that Darwin is a doctor short? Especially as the marvellous Elliot is now part-tutor to Andi Osho
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It'll be the writers I'll be annoyed at ![]() I think mainly because, like you said, its so fitting with his character. I think if we found out his secrets then we would loose the character, there wouldnt be anything left, apart from an average doctor. The fact they're still keeping all these secrets I think shows us they intend to keep him on the show for a while. I'd like someone from his past to show up, or perhaps him get drunk with Eddi and spill the beans about something ![]() As for the replacements, I dont think we will. I dont think it works like a doctor replaces and doctor, or nurse replaces a nurse. I think just as long as a new charcacter is introduced. So we got the transplant pair. I also dont think we'll get a Dan replacement as he wasnt replacing anyone in the frist place, he seemed to just appear...
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I want more like this to fill the void of the next few weeks/months!I want to see the opening clip!! its not on youtube & i dont remember them meeting Love how she drops here coffee...
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Also, I think that Jonny is supposed to be very senior nursing wise, more a Mark Willilams or Eddi than a Donna shall we say - the way he talked about - that'll have to change with the nurses ignoring him in his first episode implied he was going to have a position of authority over them, he's clearly a scrub nurse or he wouldn't be so involved in transplants and also I don't think they'd give that role to an inexperienced or junior level so I think he may be the male equivilent of Matron or Consultant Nurse. He may also be a Nurse Practitioner, that exam Chrissie failed last year. Plus, people have to train for years to get to Reg level in particular fields, it's really not easy to chop and change. I know Jac has but it was established very early on that she'd done CT and then had to retrain to GS after the cockup with Nick Jordan at their previous hospital and mention was made of it both when she joined Darwin in 2008 to cover Sam and again when she rejoined in 2011 in Blue Valentine. Isn't Lu supposed to be a specialist in Trauma Medicine - I'm sure it was mentioned in his first episode. |
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I have been searching for it but no avail. I guess I will have to wait until they shown on the repeats on Sony tv. |
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He is supposed to be a specialist General Surgical Registrar and Trauma Research Fellow but I also read somewhere ( I can't remember where) that he was specialist in vascular surgery as well. So he is definitely an FRCS
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I don't really understand why thy have made such a big deal about Luc, Alex and then Mo being Fellows of the RCS - I think that anyone that gets up to Registrar level as a Surgeon (hence Mr, Miss, Mrs rather than Doctor) must me a member of the Royal College of Surgeons as they've passed those additional exams and had the experience signed off, similar to be husband being a Chartered Accountant after stuying for years whereas I am just a pretend one
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By the way, I'm not particuarly shipping Leddi (though I do like both characters and their banter from day 1) but I don't think that his leaving is going to place insummountable block to them getting together or audience sympathy with him. It is possible that something really big came up suddenly causing his departure but more likely he just got scared when she gace him her door key. He clearly has history that makes commitment a huge deal for him and when she has got too close, he has run. Not dis-similar to what Jac did with Joseph in 07, she didn't physically run but shagging someones dad is about as big a way to push them away as possible and as I said in another forum, if the can realistically get Jac and Joseph to reconcilie after that and all the hateful behaviour (on both sides) that followed, then I don't see why they can't with Luc and Eddi.
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Yes I agree KitKat, Considering how much she hated him when he first arrived, I dont see it being much to contend with.
He's going to have a reason, whether that reason will be shared with the viewers/Eddi is a different story. They've built this storyline up slowely and to blow all that on a short absence which was a necessity due to the actors commitments would be silly. Its just another opportunity to throw a spanner in the works...course of true love never did run smoooth and all that.. ![]()
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From what my understanding is (my uncle is a fellow in general surgery), they spend some additionl time in academic research part of medicine rather than the clinical side and release publications which gives it an added bonus than member of the RCS and and are more likely to be selected for teaching at Medical Schools. Sorry, not made it clear, hope you get my drift here. |
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But as far as a happy ending is concerned, not a chance 

Luc, so far, has done nothing horrible to anyone. His morals, attitude to patients, and general being a doctor are spot on. Hes not a nasty character. Infact I think hes very vulnerable, sweet natured person, who really does mean well, but is bizarre/ unsociable because of something in his past.
and thats not to say I dont feel for Eddi....I really do

Love how she drops here coffee...
