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Old 10-07-2012, 07:15   #1
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Super hd

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/toshiba...87020-pdt.html


What would you have Oled or super Hd.
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Old 10-07-2012, 11:57   #2
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I nlike the way they include gold-plated HDMi leads. Presumably they think if you'll spend £6,000+ on a telly you'll buy anyrhing.
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Old 10-07-2012, 15:58   #3
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Until they start bringing out Super HD sources this won't have any advantage over a 1080 set except as a computer monitor.

Not even sure if that resolution would be supported by most computer graphics cards?

'tis the future though, and points to the time when a large screen in the lounge is used for more than just TV IMO.
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Old 10-07-2012, 16:28   #4
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it does have glasses free 3D
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Old 10-07-2012, 16:36   #5
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Why would you want Super HD when Ultra HD is where it is at?
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Old 10-07-2012, 18:15   #6
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Hmm I wonder how well the glasses less 3D works?
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Old 10-07-2012, 19:18   #7
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What would you have Oled or super Hd.
I'd rather have an OLED TV because there's virtually no Super High Definition sources to hook that TV up to.
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Old 10-07-2012, 19:24   #8
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Why would you want Super HD when Ultra HD is where it is at?
Maybe Ultra High Definition is the next level. In other words, no Super High Definition, only this for the next level.
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Old 10-07-2012, 21:33   #9
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Maybe Ultra High Definition is the next level. In other words, no Super High Definition, only this for the next level.
Neither really matter - current HD is limited by the excessive compression used, using decent bandwidth would improve the pictures more than enough.

Any higher resolution would just require viewing even closer, and make SD too poor to watch.
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Old 10-07-2012, 21:40   #10
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On demestic sets, anything over 1080 is a waste. You are getting to a point where the human eye wont be able to see the difference. A bit like saying your inkjet printer has 2,880dpi so it must be better than one with 1,200dpi. Well yes it is, but you need an eye glass to see the difference.

There is no broadcast of super/ultra hd discs anyway.
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Old 10-07-2012, 22:42   #11
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Until they start bringing out Super HD sources this won't have any advantage over a 1080 set except as a computer monitor.

Not even sure if that resolution would be supported by most computer graphics cards?

'tis the future though, and points to the time when a large screen in the lounge is used for more than just TV IMO.
Not on 55 inch sets it isn't the future. You'd need to sit 2 or 3 feet from it to see all the detail - even if the detail was broadcast, which it isn't. You'd need to sit so close that you'd have to cut a hole in your wall for your feet!

It's an utterly ridiculous piece of equipment but I'm sure a few gullible millionnaires or "up with the Jones's" technophiles will buy one. As for the 3D thing, well there's another gimmick, needing glasses or not.

Give me a 55 inch 1920x1080 OLED TV and 2D material, any day of the week. Or a plain old 55 inch Panasonic plasma for a third of the cost.
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:10   #12
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Not on 55 inch sets it isn't the future. You'd need to sit 2 or 3 feet from it to see all the detail - even if the detail was broadcast, which it isn't. You'd need to sit so close that you'd have to cut a hole in your wall for your feet!

It's an utterly ridiculous piece of equipment but I'm sure a few gullible millionnaires or "up with the Jones's" technophiles will buy one. As for the 3D thing, well there's another gimmick, needing glasses or not.

Give me a 55 inch 1920x1080 OLED TV and 2D material, any day of the week. Or a plain old 55 inch Panasonic plasma for a third of the cost.
The more pixels the more realistic the image will look.
Whether broadcasts will ever get up to this level is another matter, but disks or downloads may eventually be available in super or ultra HD.
And there's no reason SD would look any worse on this than on a 1080 set of the same size, because the resolution is just being scaled up.

I have my computer connected to a 23" 1080 monitor and to my 40" 1080 TV, and the desktop looks better on the 23" because the pixels are smaller, and the text looks smoother. On the 40" you can see the pixelsthat make up the text and images. So if you scaled that up to 55" the pixels would look comparatively huge at 1920x1080.

I suspect the likes of gamers will fuel a demand for large super (ultra) high def displays, even if it makes little difference for normal telly viewing.

Having said that, it'll only be a niche market until the price comes below £1000.
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Old 11-07-2012, 20:45   #13
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dont forget all that extra bandwidth needed. Tricky enough on satellite and cable, but as for Freeview....a move to super/ultra hd might be a step to far.
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Old 11-07-2012, 21:10   #14
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To think, I saw my first demo of Ultra-HD when I was over in Japan nearly seven years ago....
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Old 11-07-2012, 21:39   #15
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considering the small number of HD channels, should we not get all the current SD ones to current HD standard first, before rolling out further high-end HD options.
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Old 11-07-2012, 21:53   #16
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Super hd

I am going to the Super HD Test Event on the 24th of July 2012, I will report back of course
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Old 11-07-2012, 22:08   #17
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On demestic sets, anything over 1080 is a waste. You are getting to a point where the human eye wont be able to see the difference. A bit like saying your inkjet printer has 2,880dpi so it must be better than one with 1,200dpi. Well yes it is, but you need an eye glass to see the difference.

There is no broadcast of super/ultra hd discs anyway.
I have to disagree. By changing from a 32" TV to a 50" TV you are more than doubling the surface area and viewed from the same distance the loss in resolution is very noticeable. To have the same clarity as the 32" on the 50" TV must be stunning.
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Old 11-07-2012, 22:27   #18
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considering the small number of HD channels, should we not get all the current SD ones to current HD standard first, before rolling out further high-end HD options.
There appears to be a lot in High Definition. I can't see what other channels could be in High Definition.

BBC HD
BBC One HD
ITV 1 hd
4HD
5HD
NHK World HD
Sky Atlantic HD
Sky 1 HD
Sky Living HD
Sky Arts 1 HD
Sky Arts 2 HD
Sky Sports F1 HD
FX HD
Comedy Central HD
SyFy HD
Universal HD
Sky News HD
Food HD
Dave HD
Alibi HD
Watch HD
E4 HD
ITV 2 HD
ITV 3 HD
ITV 4 HD
MTV HD
Star Plus HD
Discovery HD
History HD
National Geographic HD
Nat Geo Wild HD
Animal Planet HD
Eden HD
Disney HD
Disney XD HD
Cartoon Network HD
Nickelodeon HD
Eurosport HD
MTV Live HD
Sky Movies Premiere HD
Sky Movies Showcase HD
Sky Movies Comedy HD
Sky Movies Family HD
Sky Movies Action & Adventure HD
Sky Movies Modern Greats HD
Sky Movies Sci Fi & Horror HD
Sky Movies Drama & Romance HD
Sky Movies Crime & Thriller HD
Sky Movies Classics HD
Sky Movies Indie HD
Disney Cinemagic HD
MGM HD
ESPN HD
ESPN America HD

There you go.
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Old 11-07-2012, 22:55   #19
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3840x2160 is QFHD (Quad Full) not 'Super'. Nice to know Currys can't even get the name of the resolution right.
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Old 11-07-2012, 23:58   #20
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There appears to be a lot in High Definition. I can't see what other channels could be in High Definition.

BBC HD
BBC One HD
ITV 1 hd
4HD
5HD
NHK World HD
Sky Atlantic HD
Sky 1 HD
Sky Living HD
Sky Arts 1 HD
Sky Arts 2 HD
Sky Sports F1 HD
FX HD
Comedy Central HD
SyFy HD
Universal HD
Sky News HD
Food HD
Dave HD
Alibi HD
Watch HD
E4 HD
ITV 2 HD
ITV 3 HD
ITV 4 HD
MTV HD
Star Plus HD
Discovery HD
History HD
National Geographic HD
Nat Geo Wild HD
Animal Planet HD
Eden HD
Disney HD
Disney XD HD
Cartoon Network HD
Nickelodeon HD
Eurosport HD
MTV Live HD
Sky Movies Premiere HD
Sky Movies Showcase HD
Sky Movies Comedy HD
Sky Movies Family HD
Sky Movies Action & Adventure HD
Sky Movies Modern Greats HD
Sky Movies Sci Fi & Horror HD
Sky Movies Drama & Romance HD
Sky Movies Crime & Thriller HD
Sky Movies Classics HD
Sky Movies Indie HD
Disney Cinemagic HD
MGM HD
ESPN HD
ESPN America HD

There you go.
You forgot:

Sky Sports 1 HD
Sky Sports 2 HD
Sky Sports 3 HD
Sky Sports 4 HD
Sky Sports News HD
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Old 12-07-2012, 09:25   #21
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There appears to be a lot in High Definition. I can't see what other channels could be in High Definition.
How about all the vastly higher number of SD only channels?
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Old 12-07-2012, 20:50   #22
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There appears to be a lot in High Definition. I can't see what other channels could be in High Definition.

BBC HD
BBC One HD
ITV 1 hd
4HD
5HD
NHK World HD
Sky Atlantic HD
Sky 1 HD
Sky Living HD
Sky Arts 1 HD
Sky Arts 2 HD
Sky Sports F1 HD
FX HD
Comedy Central HD
SyFy HD
Universal HD
Sky News HD
Food HD
Dave HD
Alibi HD
Watch HD
E4 HD
ITV 2 HD
ITV 3 HD
ITV 4 HD
MTV HD
Star Plus HD
Discovery HD
History HD
National Geographic HD
Nat Geo Wild HD
Animal Planet HD
Eden HD
Disney HD
Disney XD HD
Cartoon Network HD
Nickelodeon HD
Eurosport HD
MTV Live HD
Sky Movies Premiere HD
Sky Movies Showcase HD
Sky Movies Comedy HD
Sky Movies Family HD
Sky Movies Action & Adventure HD
Sky Movies Modern Greats HD
Sky Movies Sci Fi & Horror HD
Sky Movies Drama & Romance HD
Sky Movies Crime & Thriller HD
Sky Movies Classics HD
Sky Movies Indie HD
Disney Cinemagic HD
MGM HD
ESPN HD
ESPN America HD

There you go.


Only if you have Sky+HD....

Otherwise, BBC 1 HD, BBC HD, ITV1 HD,C4hd, and......thats about it. Dont even have Ch5hd yet!
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Old 12-07-2012, 20:56   #23
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Only if you have Sky+HD....

Otherwise, BBC 1 HD, BBC HD, ITV1 HD,C4hd, and......thats about it. Dont even have Ch5hd yet!
CH5-HD is free on a Sky box if you have a expired subcscription card.
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Old 12-07-2012, 21:16   #24
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not on freeview or freesat though.

Dont have a Sky box.
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Old 17-07-2012, 02:16   #25
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I prefer OLED. I think all these hds mentioned above, ultra hd, super hd and other whatever hds have enough picture quality to watch a nice movie. Also I think that almost all well known brands have similar technical power so it will be difficult to differentiate them just by saying picture quality, frame rate, etc. But I think LG’s OLED has better design. It is remarkably thin and gorgeous. It will decorate my living room well.
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