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Old 12-07-2012, 21:01   #1
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EE jay the fool
so after ben nearly runs him over, hid his hoodie, hid the photo frame, made fun of his dad and threated to blame him jay is still bens "brother". If i was jay i would of showed ben a lesson in respect
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Old 12-07-2012, 21:04   #2
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so after ben nearly runs him over, hid his hoodie, hid the photo frame, made fun of his dad and threated to blame him jay is still bens "brother". If i was jay i would of showed ben a lesson in respect
Phil could turn on him, if he tried anything! but yeah he should be tought a lesson!
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Old 12-07-2012, 21:11   #3
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Phil could turn on him, if he tried anything! but yeah he should be tought a lesson!
I dont think phil would he was angry with ben about the hoodie
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Old 12-07-2012, 21:13   #4
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so after ben nearly runs him over, hid his hoodie, hid the photo frame, made fun of his dad and threated to blame him jay is still bens "brother". If i was jay i would of showed ben a lesson in respect
Instead he assaulted Lola and trashed Andrews van...nice guy.
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Old 12-07-2012, 21:27   #5
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Instead he assaulted Lola and trashed Andrews van...nice guy.
He is actually a nice guy. A bad guy would've done worse.
He's only a kid and has had so much happen to him within that short period of time, I don't blame him for lashing out like that out of frustration.
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Old 12-07-2012, 21:32   #6
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He is actually a nice guy. A bad guy would've done worse.
He's only a kid and has had so much happen to him within that short period of time, I don't blame him for lashing out like that out of frustration.
If he'd lashed out at Ben and trashed the Arches I'd agree with you, but to pick on the innocent makes him little better than Ben.
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Old 12-07-2012, 21:44   #7
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I am disappointed in Jay. Why is lunatic Ben still walking around free?
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Old 12-07-2012, 21:49   #8
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I am disappointed in Jay. Why is lunatic Ben still walking around free?
Jay is deeply affected and confused about what to do. I feel sorry for him. The fact that both Ben and Phil and psychologically messing with him doesn't help either - "keep quiet, it's what a Michell will do; we took you in and looked after you now live by our rules"
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Old 12-07-2012, 21:51   #9
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Jay is deeply affected and confused about what to do. I feel sorry for him. The fact that both Ben and Phil and psychologically messing with him doesn't help either - "keep quiet, it's what a Michell will do; we took you in and looked after you now live by our rules"
^this
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Old 12-07-2012, 22:11   #10
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If he'd lashed out at Ben and trashed the Arches I'd agree with you, but to pick on the innocent makes him little better than Ben.
I'd say there's quite a leap from pushing somebody and punching a homemade burger-van sign to killing a woman and showing no remorse..

What Jay did was an unnecessary overreaction but to say it makes him little better than a killer is a bit much.
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Old 12-07-2012, 22:23   #11
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I'd say there's quite a leap from pushing somebody and punching a homemade burger-van sign to killing a woman and showing no remorse..

What Jay did was an unnecessary overreaction but to say it makes him little better than a killer is a bit much.
I just meant that if you push a woman over, especially a pregnant one, you have no idea of the outcome...she could have hit her head like Heather or lost her baby as when Archie shoved Ronnie...it was potentially dangerous.
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Old 13-07-2012, 00:53   #12
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I found the whole episode unrealistic, Jay and Ben were paractically screaming about Heather's murder anyone could have heard it
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Old 13-07-2012, 00:58   #13
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I just meant that if you push a woman over, especially a pregnant one, you have no idea of the outcome...she could have hit her head like Heather or lost her baby as when Archie shoved Ronnie...it was potentially dangerous.
It was a light push, lets be honest he Vald.
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Old 13-07-2012, 01:12   #14
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It was a light push, lets be honest he Vald.
If Jean or Kat had shoved Janine like that there would have been at least half a dozen threads condemning them... but it was only Lola and Jay can do no wrong. Just my opinion.
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Old 13-07-2012, 01:23   #15
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Ben is manipulating and blackmailing Jay, I thought Jay had the bottle to stand up for himself,

Phil would believe Jay over Ben because he told him to dump it in the canal, and Jay only has to say, he found it under bens matress.
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Old 13-07-2012, 01:28   #16
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What reason did Ben give to Jay for keeping the photo frame? I forgot what he said.
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Old 13-07-2012, 01:31   #17
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What reason did Ben give to Jay for keeping the photo frame? I forgot what he said.
I may be wrong, but I don't think he gave a reason.
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Old 13-07-2012, 14:12   #18
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If Jean or Kat had shoved Janine like that there would have been at least half a dozen threads condemning them... but it was only Lola and Jay can do no wrong. Just my opinion.
Agree with that bit
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