[derek500]

Originally Posted by peter05

My point was before the BBC went FTA, you needed a card to watch the BBC and other channels on a satalite ie a sky box ( the card may not have been a sky card but it was still a FTV , because you could not watch the BBC or any other terrestrial tv channel on satalite without a card,
After the BBC went FTA all the other terrestrial channels followed suit so before the BBC went FTA there was very few channels FTA, but now there are many more

That's all I am saying, but a few poster's are trying to say I am saying something else, but there I have said it again

But they were never pay!! So irrelevant to this thread.

[Dazinho]

Originally Posted by peter05

I was happy to have a rational debate, but a few of you decided to attack every think I said, taking things out of context

As soon as you state you feel sorry for someone because of what they have posted, there is nothing rational about it.

Here is a thought - freeview, freesat is very good and we certainly get more than we did in the 5 channel analogue days, but some people like to watch more than what is on freeview. Therefore they (myself included) see value where you do not.

So some channels have gone FTA. So what? Subscribers do not lose out, freeview/sat viewers benefit. Nobody loses.

[peter05]

Originally Posted by derek500

But they were never pay!! So irrelevant to this thread.

That's my point derek500 I never said they were all pay, but they were FTV not all FTA like they are now

[samwalk]

Sorry but I have to agree the distinction between FTA and FTV BBC is irrrelevant. This thread is about pay channels. Sure a card was required for the BBC but it was a free card. The purpose was to enable the BBC to comply with copyright by not broadcasting outside the UK, not to cover their costs. That's entirely different from only being able to receive Sky1 or MTV if you subscribe to the basic Sky package.