[Northern lights]

He is unbelievable!! How many times has he said he HATES Luke S??

And then last night on the HL show, he says to Luke S's face that he doesn't hate anyone! What a turncoat! He is weak and dishonest.

I also disagree with Jet's stance on BBBOTS his being nominated. I don't think he handled being nominated at all well! He kept wingeing about why people hate him blah blah blah....Lauren handled it much better (this time and for the time being anyway) Why doesn't he take some of his own advice and think about why the opinion of the 'insiders' matters at all!

[Sifter22]

Doing the rounds with the HM's he dislikes to try get votes was tedious and pathetic.

[cherrytops(82)]

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[Northern lights]

Originally Posted by Sifter22

Doing the rounds with the HM's he dislikes to try get votes was tedious and pathetic.

Totally agree! And relegated him to their level...disappointed!!

[dirrrty]

It was obvious what he was doing, no different to what Conor did with Becky and Scott

[CBFreak]

Originally Posted by Sifter22

Doing the rounds with the HM's he dislikes to try get votes was tedious and pathetic.

It was mature and decent of him to try and build bridges.

[jeanoj]

Luke A To Win!!!!

[liam_matthews]

He's quite clearly doing it to clear the air.

[B L Zeebub]

Yes, I agree. He has been quite dishonest about his feelings towards others. I know he feels isolated, but he has done that to himself, to a certain extent, and his snappiness hasn't helped either.

[SnowStorm86]

Originally Posted by Northern lights

He is unbelievable!! How many times has he said he HATES Luke S??

None. He once said he detests him, after Luke S made aggressive threats against Benedict after his eviction.

[Reality Sucks]

Originally Posted by liam_matthews

He's quite clearly doing it to clear the air.

Well partly, but I agree with people who find it all a bit cringey. Better to die on your feet than live on your knees

[wonkeydonkey]

Originally Posted by Northern lights

He is unbelievable!! How many times has he said he HATES Luke S??

Correct me if I am wrong, but I think the answer is none.

They have been getting on well recently anyway; the only bitching has been some mild stuff by Luke S to Ashleigh about him.

[minkski]

Originally Posted by SnowStorm86

None. He once said he detests him, after Luke S made aggressive threats against Benedict after his eviction.

but the number of times it's been repeated on these forums makes it appear that it was more often: it's amazing how repetition of a theory by some people somehow makes it fact

[MillysMomma]

Luke A was trying to build bridges and clear the air before he goes as he is a decent, genuine guy and has faced a lot more than most of you could comprehend.

[wonkeydonkey]

Originally Posted by minkski

but the number of times it's been repeated on these forums makes it appear that it was more often: it's amazing how repetition of a theory by some people somehow makes it fact

yes, true.


The number of times Luke A used the word detest in relation to Luke S = 1.

The number of times this has been repeated on this forum = 5,385,063,692.

[CBFreak]

Originally Posted by wonkeydonkey

yes, true.


The number of times Luke A used the word detest in relation to Luke S = 1.

The number of times this has been repeated on this forum = 5,385,063,692.

5,385,063,693 please.
You missed one.

[onfencewithrach]

Originally Posted by Northern lights

He is unbelievable!! How many times has he said he HATES Luke S??

oh! i'm glad someone pointed that out!! i thought the same thing when i saw that.

he's said things like "i detest him, i really.. really hate him". "too little too late" and has talked about him all series.

and his victim routine on that episode was just... i don't even have the words. mind boggling is the only thing one can say to that.

that's the one big thing i don't like about luke a is that he puts on this "good guy" demeaner and always has this innocent, smug look but he's one of the people who talk about people the most, and he's one of the people who says stuff about people and then is nice to their face the most.

aghh whatever, i don't hold it against him or anything but it does annoy me at times... the victim thing i can't take.. he's 31. i mean seriously, if you can't deal with the way someone looks at you or whispers at 31 then i don't even know what to tell you. at that point... and he doesn't call people out on things in an adult way of talking about it or discussing it, he does it as the victim and the persecuted good guy all of which he creates in his own head.

i'm finding it hard to take him at this moment but i still like things about him.

[Darcyprincess]

Originally Posted by Northern lights

He is unbelievable!! How many times has he said he HATES Luke S??

And then last night on the HL show, he says to Luke S's face that he doesn't hate anyone! What a turncoat! He is weak and dishonest.

I also disagree with Jet's stance on BBBOTS his being nominated. I don't think he handled being nominated at all well! He kept wingeing about why people hate him blah blah blah....Lauren handled it much better (this time and for the time being anyway) Why doesn't he take some of his own advice and think about why the opinion of the 'insiders' matters at all!

I have to say that I do normally like Luke but he did go down in my estimations because he went too far in saying how much he liked Luke S when we have all seen him say how much he dislikes him and calls all that group vile and a few others names too. Remembering what he called them all to Lauren in the toilet only last week!

Plus, the way he took being nominated by 4 people was over the top when Lauren got 7 nominations. He forgets how smug he was last week when it was both Conor and Shievonne. As much as I don't like the insiders I think that Luke A handled things very badly and it did look like he was going for the sympathy vote when he went into the dr.

There is a difference between making things better for everybody in the house to make for a better atmosphere but I think that Luke went too far, to make himself look better and it made him look like he was brown nosing so that if he does stay they won't nominate him next week!

Good tactics some might say, but not good for the public when they have seen everything that he has said about the insiders!

[TheManWhoLaughs]

Originally Posted by wonkeydonkey

The number of times Luke A used the word detest in relation to Luke S = 1.

The number of times this has been repeated on this forum = 5,385,063,692.

The percentage of LukeA's airtime in the first month or so being spent whining about LukeS = 80%

[Cranberryapple]

Originally Posted by wonkeydonkey

Correct me if I am wrong, but I think the answer is none.

They have been getting on well recently anyway; the only bitching has been some mild stuff by Luke S to Ashleigh about him.

You keep saying this!!
Apart from having to do the warden task together and Luke A 'confronting' Luke S, when are you talking about? Genuine question.

[wappaho]

Luke A needs counselling.

Being nominated does not mean that people hate you

4 nominations is not everyone in the house

Luke A really, really misjudges relationships.

Seriously worrying when you think about it.

Perfectly sane people like Caroline demonised because someone who so misjudges reality, plays the bullying card.

[Sifter22]

Originally Posted by CBFreak

It was mature and decent of him to try and build bridges.

He wasn't there to build no bridges, he was there to smooth things over so he looks better on TV. Good thing the GBP can see right through him

[Leeah]

Originally Posted by wappaho

Luke A needs counselling.

Being nominated does not mean that people hate you

4 nominations is not everyone in the house

Luke A really, really misjudges relationships.

Seriously worrying when you think about it.

Perfectly sane people like Caroline demonised because someone who so misjudges reality, plays the bullying card.

Urm...

[wonkeydonkey]

Originally Posted by Cranberryapple

You keep saying this!!
Apart from having to do the warden task together and Luke A 'confronting' Luke S, when are you talking about? Genuine question.

I thought their conversation about his testosterone jabs was excellent - open, friendly and interesting. And we saw them working very well and harmoniously on the shopping list, which contrasted nicely with the bickering and snapping we saw yesterday when Becky did it. And we haven't heard Luke A say a word against Luke S for ages, so it is reasonable to assume that the worst was past. It is true that we DID hear Luke S having a moan about him to Ashleigh, but it was not angry or spiteful or over the top, just ...ordinary.

[eachtotheirown]

Originally Posted by wappaho

Luke A needs counselling.

Being nominated does not mean that people hate you

4 nominations is not everyone in the house

Luke A really, really misjudges relationships.

Seriously worrying when you think about it.

Perfectly sane people like Caroline demonised because someone who so misjudges reality, plays the bullying card.

Exactly he got 4 nominations!
Lauren got 7, and she has handled it way better.