[BluesTrainRadio]

To me, it's a shame as the standard of vocalists on The Voice was much higher than on the last X Factor. The original auditions were really good and there was several artists that I thought were potentially very good.

For some reason though, the following rounds made some of these worse - the boxing ring turned into a shouting match at times. Some of the best from the blind auditions didn't make it past that next stage, which was wrong. There was something just not quite right about it as it went along, even though I still watched most of it, when I never watch the X Factor.

Maybe the judges/coaches need to stay the other way round for longer - perhaps they need to some their initial coaching sessions behind a screen and not see the singers until the final. They also need to send through the best singers, not just from each team.

Ultimately though, I think we are just resigned to the fact that the mass TV audience don't really care about quality of talent on these shows, they just want mindless 'entertainment' of talentless people who can't sing or have a sob story of X Factor.....

[BIDIE-IN]

The idea was good - but since the audience could clearly see as well as hear the singers, the judges could register their response and vote accordingly. Perhaps if the singers were behind a screen so NO ONE could tell what they looked like, the idea of it being 'all bout the voice' would make sense.

But the show is most likely to be remembered for the non career of the winner.

[getty]

The end result was all very Pop Idol 2.

[BluesTrainRadio]

I actually think that Leanne has a lovely voice and I was happy she won. I do think it's a shame that there has been no real follow up as yet but remember, with X Factor, they often waits months before launching things properly. I would hate for her to be written off already, she is talented, just needs to be marketed properly.

[BIDIE-IN]

I hope she gets a chance too - but the decision to make her winning song available on download only was, IMO, taken by someone at Universal less than happy with who won. The CD single release was set for July 9th. It never happened.

An album is supposedly due next month......but will they invest the necessary time and money recording and promoting it?

[BluesTrainRadio]

Probably not but then perhaps she can go and find people that will actually care about her voice, she can find songs that will really suit her and find an audience that will enjoy what she does. It might not be on an Adele scale but not many singers are!

[Heavenly]

I don't watch X Factor anymore as it's just awful so I was quite looking forward to The Voice but it was awful as well. Why is there a second series?

[BluesTrainRadio]

I'm glad there is a second series and hope you can give it a chance. They are going to pull out the stops to get good talent on there, I just hope they tweak the format to make it better all round.

[jackbell]

Originally Posted by Heavenly

I don't watch X Factor anymore as it's just awful so I was quite looking forward to The Voice but it was awful as well. Why is there a second series?

Because the BBC are contracted for two series I think. If things don't improve I don't think there will be a third. Having said that, Big Brother seems to limp from one series to another on a fraction of it's earlier ratings so you never know.

[maggie_07]

Originally Posted by Heavenly

I don't watch X Factor anymore as it's just awful so I was quite looking forward to The Voice but it was awful as well. Why is there a second series?

Well, an average of 8 million people watched it each week so they didn't agree that it was awful. I know the viewing figures went down but even towards the end it was getting at least twice as many viewers as Superstar is at the moment. They will have improved it a lot by the second series and I am looking forward to it.

I was impressed by the talent of the final eight, all very different. It'll be interesting to hear their albums when they are released, which in some cases will include a lot of their own material.

[penelopesimpson]

Originally Posted by maggie_07

Well, an average of 8 million people watched it each week so they didn't agree that it was awful. I know the viewing figures went down but even towards the end it was getting at least twice as many viewers as Superstar is at the moment. They will have improved it a lot by the second series and I am looking forward to it.

I was impressed by the talent of the final eight, all very different. It'll be interesting to hear their albums when they are released, which in some cases will include a lot of their own material.

Hmm. Can't wait. Not. Terrible programme. Hideous waste of licence fee money and now other programmes axed to pay for it. Outrageous. Time Danny Cohen ate some humble pie.

[penelopesimpson]

Originally Posted by jackbell

Because the BBC are contracted for two series I think. If things don't improve I don't think there will be a third. Having said that, Big Brother seems to limp from one series to another on a fraction of it's earlier ratings so you never know.

But Big Brother isn't using public money

[jackbell]

Originally Posted by penelopesimpson

But Big Brother isn't using public money

True but the BBC are very arrogant and cavalier about using public funds.

[unclekevo]

Originally Posted by MrJames

Oh God. I do hope that they can back on their feet for the next series.Hopefully this series was just the 'guinea pig'.

I'd describe it more as the 'dead hamster'

[BIDIE-IN]

The Voice is an established format which the BBC chose to buy. Having failed to get viewers for the other established show So You Think You Can Dance? it was rash to say the least to spend so much on a programme which, IMO, would have a more natural home on ITV.

To say that series 2 should be better and series 1 was perhaps a trial run is unacceptable.

It SHOULD have worked. It SHOULD NOT need adjustments to win viewers. BBC audiences did not warm to it and the BBC should cut their losses.

[maggie_07]

Originally Posted by BIDIE-IN

It SHOULD have worked. It SHOULD NOT need adjustments to win viewers. BBC audiences did not warm to it and the BBC should cut their losses.

IF they had audiences of 2.5m like Superstar has, I would agree with you. They didn't. Plenty of people DID like it, their views are important as well.

[BIDIE-IN]

Originally Posted by maggie_07

IF they had audiences of 2.5m like Superstar has, I would agree with you. They didn't. Plenty of people DID like it, their views are important as well.

Of course they are Maggie - and it started so well. The media loved it as much as the viewing public. Finaly the BBC get a high profile hit entertainment show to rival the Cowell stable. And then numbers went into free-fall. Why? Maybe the time has come and gone for this sort of show - a shame because the standard was good.

But then the standard on So You Think You Can Dance was sublime, but that struggled to get above 3 million and seems to have been quietly dropped.

I wonder if The Voice should go out midweek with a live results show and recap on the Saturday? It needs some tweaking - although I understand that not too much can be done - but it will be interesting to see what is done with it when it returns.

[maggie_07]

Originally Posted by BIDIE-IN

Of course they are Maggie - and it started so well. The media loved it as much as the viewing public. Finaly the BBC get a high profile hit entertainment show to rival the Cowell stable. And then numbers went into free-fall. Why? Maybe the time has come and gone for this sort of show - a shame because the standard was good.

But then the standard on So You Think You Can Dance was sublime, but that struggled to get above 3 million and seems to have been quietly dropped.

I wonder if The Voice should go out midweek with a live results show and recap on the Saturday? It needs some tweaking - although I understand that not too much can be done - but it will be interesting to see what is done with it when it returns.

I agree that the standard was good, I still watch certain videos from The Voice and am impressed by the standard, as with the videos some of them have released since. If The Voice hadn't happened we may never have seen any of these artists. The proof of how good they are will be in the albums which will be released over the next 6 months.

I don't quite agree that the time has passed for these sorts of shows. It would be a terrible shame if Simon Cowell was the only person left doing talent shows. Perhaps they should be on every two years like ALW's shows were which were quite successful on BBC.

There were several reasons why the viewing figures went down and I'm hoping The Voice will return with some changes and lessons will have been learnt. I still don't think it can be called a flop though as some people label it.

[conchie]

Originally Posted by BIDIE-IN

The idea was good - but since the audience could clearly see as well as hear the singers, the judges could register their response and vote accordingly. Perhaps if the singers were behind a screen so NO ONE could tell what they looked like, the idea of it being 'all bout the voice' would make sense.

But the show is most likely to be remembered for the non career of the winner.

I agree the idea was good........but surely the biggest flaw of all is that the "blind" element is only in place for the first round. Don't they just revert to form after that and choose precisely based on what they are looking at.

For it to work at all, the blind element should continue until the live shows and only then, when its in the hands of the public, should the judges be able to see who they have put through.

[striing]

Originally Posted by conchie

I agree the idea was good........but surely the biggest flaw of all is that the "blind" element is only in place for the first round. Don't they just revert to form after that and choose precisely based on what they are looking at.

For it to work at all, the blind element should continue until the live shows and only then, when its in the hands of the public, should the judges be able to see who they have put through.

How could they work with them to coach them if they can't look at them?

[jackbell]

Originally Posted by striing

How could they work with them to coach them if they can't look at them?

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