[Summer Kisses]

Originally Posted by quasimoron

What do the plain women act like.

She is from Birmingham she cant even speak Punjabi.

Incorrect she was born and raised in Middlesbrough in the North East of England. My husband has foreign parents but, was born and raised in England, you wouldn't know that his parents are from a different country. Sheeesh

[ScottHarris]

Originally Posted by Mercier

May I ask what was the actual point of starting this thread. People who agree will say yes, I agree. People who don't will say, no I don't. And....

As you can clearly see it is not simply yes and no responses.

If your going to say that about this thread then the same can be said about most threads.

[Nocturnal Mum]

I think her negativity is getting to Luke A and Adam. This 'soldier' talk is nauseating.

[MrRight]

Originally Posted by ScottHarris

Again , the mood was fine though , why try and ruin that ?

Who said she was trying to ruin the mood?
She's been given virtually no genuine reason from Conor as to why he has always hated her so much & this would obviously play on her mind when it has had such an influence on her time in the house.

The mood was reasonable between them, there wasn't many of his minions about to jump on the bandwagon, so she asked a question to find out. What's so bad in that?

Of course it would have made far more sense for her to wait until the mood was sour between them & he had his bitchgang around him because obviously she would have got a much better response from Conor then & wouldn't have ruined that amazing time he was so clearly having.

[Veri]

Originally Posted by NaughtyNan

I know what you mean, in Eastern cultures beautiful women act cool and modest. Its not being moody you have live in the East or with Eastern women to realize that. Its the way women carry themselves but to western cultures it comes across as moody but it isn't.

Whatever it is, it's not just being cool and modest.

And we've had housemates from Eastern cultures before. None spent so much time looking unhappy.

[bigboy123]

Originally Posted by Veri

Whatever it is, it's not just being cool and modest.

And we've had housemates from Eastern cultures before. None spent so much time looking unhappy.

she obviously knows people dont really like her in the house hence why she cant be herlself in there. Anything she does may get her in "trouble".

i think she just doesnt have much in common with most people in there.
People making her uncomfortable will also make her crawl back into her shell.

[qg2010]

Originally Posted by Veri

Whatever it is, it's not just being cool and modest.

And we've had housemates from Eastern cultures before. None spent so much time looking unhappy.

None of the others were slagged off as much as her nor had as many warned about bullying for the same person.(Even Shilpa was only bullied by three people and only in the house 26 days)

Also if you watch the online clips you would see there is more to Deana than what's shown on the HL show,unlike the others who are one dimensional.

Saying someone is moody is about as lame as it comes when trying to insult someone and it shows how much haters are willing to grasp at straws trying to find faults. If one of the worst things someone can come up with for a reason a HM should not win or is not a worthy HM is that they are moody that's pretty sad.

[Veri]

Originally Posted by qg2010

None of the others were slagged off as much as her nor had as many warned about bullying for the same person.(Even Shilpa was only bullied by three people and only in the house 26 days)

Four (possibly five) were going at Shilpa. How do you get even three as bullying Deana? The only HM warned for bullying in connection with Deana is Ashleigh.

Deana's been looking unhappy for ages, pretty much from the start of bb13; so it's not like it took more than 26 days.

Also if you watch the online clips you would see there is more to Deana than what's shown on the HL show,unlike the others who are one dimensional.

Most of the others are no more one-dimensional than she is.

[qg2010]

Originally Posted by Veri

Four (possibly five) were going at Shilpa. How do you get even three as bullying Deana? The only HM warned for bullying in connection with Deana is Ashleigh.

Deana's been looking unhappy for ages, pretty much from the start of bb13; so it's not like it took more than 26 days.


Most of the others are no more one-dimensional than she is.

It's a group mentality in there. Conor,Ashleigh,Scott have been warned. But the others such as Becky,Luke S,Arron,Sheivonne have also joined in. So I don't know where you get that.

People see what they wanna see,some see facts while others grasp at straws and try in find fault in minute details of someones personality. I prefer to look at the larger picture. But to each their own I guess.

[Veri]

Originally Posted by qg2010

It's a group mentality in there. Conor,Ashleigh,Scott have been warned. But the others such as Becky,Luke S,Arron,Sheivonne have also joined in. So I don't know where you get that.

Conor and Scott weren't warned for bullying. Caroline was warned for bullying, but it wasn't about Deana. (Caroline doesn't have a problem with Deana, has never nominated her, and has even defended her.) And the idea that everyone who's ever said anything against Deana is part of some bullying "group mentality" is wrong.

People see what they wanna see,some see facts while others grasp at straws and try in find fault in minute details of someones personality. I prefer to look at the larger picture. But to each their own I guess.

It's not a minute detail of Deana's personality; it's what she's been like most of the time she's been in BB.

[qg2010]

Originally Posted by Veri

Conor and Scott weren't warned for bullying. Caroline was warned for bullying, but it wasn't about Deana. (Caroline doesn't have a problem with Deana, has never nominated her, and has even defended her.) And the idea that everyone who's ever said anything against Deana is part of some bullying "group mentality" is wrong.


It's not a minute detail of Deana's personality; it's what she's been like most of the time she's been in BB.

Scott was warned for sterotyping(Deana) Ashleigh was warned for bullying(Deana) Conor was warned for aggressive behavior(Deana). When you single one person out it's known as bullying and if it's more than a few people it's considered a group...so yes it's a group mentality.

Caroline used to join in on slagging Deana off before she was saved against the boys. After that she stopped.

If people were attacking my character and singling me out 24/7 for 8 weeks I would be a lot more than "moody" I would be furious.

[Veri]

Originally Posted by qg2010

Scott was warned for sterotyping(Deana) Ashleigh was warned for bullying(Deana) Conor was warned for aggressive behavior(Deana). When you single one person out it's known as bullying and if it's more than a few people it's considered a group...so yes it's a group mentality.

That's not what "group mentality" means. Nor is singling someone out necessarily bullying.

Scott was warned for stereotyping, not for bullying, and it was for something he hadn't done before or since and realised he should not have done at all.

Caroline used to join in on slagging Deana off before she was saved against the boys. After that she stopped.

Caroline's never had a problem with Deana and has never nominated her, even though Conor's nominated her every week. Caroline didn't suddenly change her attitude towards Deana when Deana was saved.

If people were attacking my character and singling me out 24/7 for 8 weeks I would be a lot more than "moody" I would be furious.

Deana was like that before anything like 8 weeks had passed, and what's this about singling her out? Most of them bitch about a range of HMs, rather than singling anyone out. Even Conor has often complained about other HMs too.

If there really were so many people singling her out for so long, she'd have been up much more often. Freddie was up 5 times in a row in bb10, by the time Deana was up for only her 2nd time.

[qg2010]

Originally Posted by Veri

That's not what "group mentality" means. Nor is singling someone out necessarily bullying.

Scott was warned for stereotyping, not for bullying, and it was for something he hadn't done before or since and realised he should not have done at all.


Caroline's never had a problem with Deana and has never nominated her, even though Conor's nominated her every week. Caroline didn't suddenly change her attitude towards Deana when Deana was saved.


Deana was like that before anything like 8 weeks had passed, and what's this about singling her out? Most of them bitch about a range of HMs, rather than singling anyone out. Even Conor has often complained about other HMs too.

If there really were so many people singling her out for so long, she'd have been up much more often. Freddie was up 5 times in a row in bb10, by the time Deana was up for only her 2nd time.

Group Mentality Definition:
The characteristic attitude of mind or way of thinking of a person or group:

and Bullying Definition:
Bullying includes actions such as making threats, spreading rumors, attacking someone physically or verbally, and excluding someone from a group on purpose.

Sounds like what I'm speaking of so I dont know what you are on about.

I didnt see Scott feeling bad about it he seemed to shrug it off like the rest of them do.I guess you didnt read my post well because I said he was brought in for stereotyping Deana

Caroline has complained about Deana like I said,if you don't remember I don't know what to tell you. She stopped doing it when she realized she got saved against the boys.

Also that's not necessarily true about the noms,week 1 she couldn't be nomed because she had immunity. Every week they have tried to get her up the only thing that has saved her from being up more was Scott,Becky(During the turf wars task)Sara switching votes and noming other people. e.g Lauren.

If you don't see the singling out I don't know what to tell you because you would have to be pretty much blind not to notice. For example Sara and Deana competed today in a task (they had to win 2 of them in order to lock in the luxury shopping budget) so they try to sabotage the other teams to win. After the task was completed they were successful and the other teams were angry at Deana and Sara for cheating. But instead of both of them getting a sh*t storm rained down on them Deana was singled out and received the brunt of the abuse and accusations.

[Seren13]

I actually quite like Deanna and have from the start, along with Adam, Lauren and Scott. But I always get put off by this 'idolising' of a housemate. I'm constantly hearing about how she's behaved with class and dignity etc, but in my view no more or less than Adam or Luke A. They've all been the targets of the 'insiders' bitchery at one time or another and mostly they've just got on with things and kept their distance and occassionally bitten back, much the same as Deanna. Yet they don't get the same worship for it.

I don't even figure the Conor rant into it because Deanna's unaware of this so she hasn't 'coped' with anything she doesn't know about..that's something she'll find out about when she comes out.

Anyway, I will continue to like her, along with the few others I've mentioned and won't be disappointed when she wins. But it has been quite tedious constantly hearing how perfect she is, when she's been nothing special..a fairly good housemate with a couple of funny highlights

[grayflower]

Originally Posted by Seren13

I actually quite like Deanna and have from the start, along with Adam, Lauren and Scott. But I always get put off by this 'idolising' of a housemate. I'm constantly hearing about how she's behaved with class and dignity etc, but in my view no more or less than Adam or Luke A. They've all been the targets of the 'insiders' bitchery at one time or another and mostly they've just got on with things and kept their distance and occassionally bitten back, much the same as Deanna. Yet they don't get the same worship for it.

I don't even figure the Conor rant into it because Deanna's unaware of this so she hasn't 'coped' with anything she doesn't know about..that's something she'll find out about when she comes out.

Anyway, I will continue to like her, along with the few others I've mentioned and won't be disappointed when she wins. But it has been quite tedious constantly hearing how perfect she is, when she's been nothing special..a fairly good housemate with a couple of funny highlights

What is really off-putting is people being badgered, labelled and accused of all sorts of things because they dare to find someone interesting. There are people on here who like Connor. I loathe him and think he is a thug, nothing more. However I have no interest in badgering people for their opinions.

Some people exalt Deana to god status, that is silly but they're not harming you personally are they? People are all part of this insane celebrity culture.... so this need to put people on a pedestal is probably only going to increase.

I happen to like Deana a lot - she's funny, intelligent, brave, sensible, practical, decent and happens to have a stunning face and a beautiful voice/accent too. Based on what I have seen of her, she is my favourite HM. I don't expect her to poo gold nuggets or become queen - well that's because I'm an anti-monarchist!

People slating her and her fans, and fans expressing a very high level of adoration for her do not put me off. I have my own mind and I'm not prepared to be told what to do and what to say.

[yellowlabbie]

Originally Posted by grayflower

What is really off-putting is people being badgered, labelled and accused of all sorts of things because they dare to find someone interesting. There are people on here who like Connor. I loathe him and think he is a thug, nothing more. However I have no interest in badgering people for their opinions.

Some people exalt Deana to god status, that is silly but they're not harming you personally are they? People are all part of this insane celebrity culture.... so this need to put people on a pedestal is probably only going to increase.

I happen to like Deana a lot - she's funny, intelligent, brave, sensible, practical, decent and happens to have a stunning face and a beautiful voice/accent too. Based on what I have seen of her, she is my favourite HM. I don't expect her to poo gold nuggets or become queen - well that's because I'm an anti-monarchist!

People slating her and her fans, and fans expressing a very high level of adoration for her do not put me off. I have my own mind and I'm not prepared to be told what to do and what to say.

Great post and I agree with it all apart from the anti-monarchist

[granted08]

Originally Posted by Nocturnal Mum

I think her negativity is getting to Luke A and Adam. This 'soldier' talk is nauseating.

I quite like the "Soldier talk" shows a different side to her and she's been sisterly to both Adam and Luke A. She can be a team player, despite what the others think.

[grayflower]

Originally Posted by yellowlabbie

Great post and I agree with it all apart from the anti-monarchist

Well, we can't have everything!

[grayflower]

Originally Posted by granted08

I quite like the "Soldier talk" shows a different side to her and she's been sisterly to both Adam and Luke A. She can be a team player, despite what the others think.

I love the soldier re-evaluations. It's silly, but funny.

[cyberwar]

Originally Posted by ScottHarris

Being around her must be so boring . She is constantly onto Conor about why he doesn't like her , was there any need of that at the time ? You try and enjoy yourself then she comes up with "so Conor why don't you like me" Who cares ? why worry about what he thinks ? just enjoy yourself.

And this whole soldiers thing She is constantly thinking about the game. Every time Adam and Luke A are talking Deana will change the subject about how they should do this and that just to save her own ass.

Deana has a few moments where she looks like she would be fun to be around but most of the time all she looks interested in is the game.

She's got a face like a slapped ass all the time and is just dull. She must be the most boring person to be around.

That would do my head in, it sounds like she is trying to wind Conor up! she really needs to leave him alone.

Deana is a person, who is never happy unless its about her.

[yellowlabbie]

Originally Posted by grayflower

I love the soldier re-evaluations. It's silly, but funny.

Yes, sometimes silly is nice and some silliness is definitely needed in that house.

[Nanny Ogg]

I have to say that I find her soo dull I just dont understand what the attraction is with her, pretty girl yes but there is nothing going on behind them eyes zzzz

[Vauxhall Nova]

I'd try to kill any mood when Conor is about.

When it comes to her and the people she's close to, she's often seen making them laugh.

[roses are red]

Originally Posted by ericisking

Deana picks the right moment when to ask him questions. Normally, it is when there are lots of people around or when there is chance of being showed on TV. For example: Yesterday on the dancing floor she asked him why he thought she had a split-personality, trying to set him off. She knows that he is loud and that he comes across aggressively, so she baits him with questions like that to provoke a bad reaction, to make her look good and victimised. She is very cold and calculating.

[grayflower]

Originally Posted by roses are red

Deana picks the right moment when to ask him questions. Normally, it is when there are lots of people around or when there is chance of being showed on TV. For example: Yesterday on the dancing floor she asked him why he thought she had a split-personality, trying to set him off. She knows that he is loud and that he comes across aggressively, so she baits him with questions like that to provoke a bad reaction, to make her look good and victimised. She is very cold and calculating.

The old blame everyone else but the aggressor mindset. They danced for three hours or more, but how was Deana to know which minutes or part of that would be shown? Maybe she said more to him and he to her, which was not shown? If Deana asks Connor anything, it will be shown because the thug Connor has been utterly disgusting to her and refused to own up to why he is so hateful to her.

When would be a good time to ask Connor any question? When he's relaxing as always on the couch, or asleep, or bitching in a corner with the rest of the alpha gang?