[Digifriendly]

Hope this is the right forum but here goes anyway. Just purchased a new Sony Bravia TV today and set it up connected to Sky HD box via HDMI cable. Went into settings and set HDMI control to on but the TV won't automatically switch to Sky box when Sky Box is turned on. A message appeared in the TV's settings menu saying that the TV was not detecting the device it was connected to ie. Sky box. I have gone into settings on Sky box but can't find any way to automatically turn HDMI function on (if indeed there is one). Have spent some time on this but can't seem to find an answer. Any help greatly appreciated.

[AyeJay]

I could be wrong but I'm sure no Sky boxes have HDMI-CEC.

[chrisjr]

From what I have read here and elsewhere the Sky boxes don't do CEC (HDMI control). I have read that it is a hardware issue but not sure how true that is. But if so then it does not look likely to be sorted by any software update.

[Digifriendly]

Originally Posted by chrisjr

From what I have read here and elsewhere the Sky boxes don't do CEC (HDMI control). I have read that it is a hardware issue but not sure how true that is. But if so then it does not look likely to be sorted by any software update.

Interesting this as my last TV a Sharp was able to via scart lock onto Sky as well as to a connected Sony PVR but I can't even get this set to do this with the same PVR via scart.

[excollier]

My Humax HDR is the same with my Sony Bravia too

[sodafountain]

Originally Posted by Digifriendly

Interesting this as my last TV a Sharp was able to via scart lock onto Sky as well as to a connected Sony PVR but I can't even get this set to do this with the same PVR via scart.

You need to set SCART control to on, and the box will send a signal to one of the pins in teh SCART that turns the TV to the required channel.

This does not happen with HDMI, but most TV's i have had, or used, remember the last channel they were on (HDMI1), and come back onto that channel, so isn't a problem.

[Nigel Goodwin]

Originally Posted by Digifriendly

Interesting this as my last TV a Sharp was able to via scart lock onto Sky as well as to a connected Sony PVR but I can't even get this set to do this with the same PVR via scart.

There are no Sky or Freesat boxes that do HDMI-CEC, so none will auto-switch via HDMI.

Sony TV's will certainly auto-switch via their single SCART socket, and if not you have a problem somewhere (possibly a pin pushed in on the SCART lead?) - a Sky HD box won't auto-switch by default on SCART, as SCART control is turned OFF on the box when they come.

[Digifriendly]

Got scart control to work on Sony PVR by going into settings on TV and changing to auto on. From another forum this link may suggest a solution for HDMI - http://www.skyuser.co.uk/forum/sky-h...i-channel.html

[Nigel Goodwin]

Originally Posted by Digifriendly

Got scart control to work on Sony PVR by going into settings on TV and changing to auto on. From another forum this link may suggest a solution for HDMI - http://www.skyuser.co.uk/forum/sky-h...i-channel.html

Not really, there's no way to make them auto-switch on HDMI.

On the older Sony TV's you could set the Sky HD remote to directly select a specific HDMI socket, but that hasn't worked for a LONG time now on the newer TV's.

[Digifriendly]

Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin

Not really, there's no way to make them auto-switch on HDMI.

On the older Sony TV's you could set the Sky HD remote to directly select a specific HDMI socket, but that hasn't worked for a LONG time now on the newer TV's.

Thanks and you're absolutely right. Tried this method without success.

[jw75]

I have a Panasonic TV that will auto-switch to a HDMI-connected PC when the latter comes out of standby. Don't know how, as the PC display port won't have any CEC firmware.
The TV's other HDMI ports connect to a CEC-capable DVD, which does auto-switch, and a FTA satellite box, which doesn't.

[Ike1998]

Originally Posted by jw75

I have a Panasonic TV that will auto-switch to a HDMI-connected PC when the latter comes out of standby. Don't know how, as the PC display port won't have any CEC firmware.
The TV's other HDMI ports connect to a CEC-capable DVD, which does auto-switch, and a FTA satellite box, which doesn't.

Likewise my Sony Surround sound system with 4in i out HDMI ports Auto switches the connected devices including my Humax DTR and Dreambox 8000 FTA. receivers. Everything is set up to operate from a Harmony 700 remote.

[sodafountain]

Originally Posted by jw75

I have a Panasonic TV that will auto-switch to a HDMI-connected PC when the latter comes out of standby. Don't know how, as the PC display port won't have any CEC firmware.
The TV's other HDMI ports connect to a CEC-capable DVD, which does auto-switch, and a FTA satellite box, which doesn't.

This may be down to the TV, on my Sammy, there is a setting to auto turn to HDMI1 if signal is present, you can turn it on or off, so i would say it's possible, but down to the receiver not the transmitter (ie the TV or home cinema system, not the Sky box).

[Nigel Goodwin]

Originally Posted by jw75

I have a Panasonic TV that will auto-switch to a HDMI-connected PC when the latter comes out of standby. Don't know how, as the PC display port won't have any CEC firmware.

Panasonic TV's do a crude signal detection on HDMI1 only, which (luckily) can be turned OFF in the setup menu if need be.

It simply checks for any signal on HDMI1 and switches to it, which may, or may not, be what you want.

[jw75]

Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin

Panasonic TV's do a crude signal detection on HDMI1 only, which (luckily) can be turned OFF in the setup menu if need be.

It simply checks for any signal on HDMI1 and switches to it, which may, or may not, be what you want.

It is what I want as the PC's main function is as a PVR. It used to also switch when the PC came out of standby to record, which wasn't so good, but now it only switches momentarily before going back to TV - could have been a display driver update that sorted this.

[Nigel Goodwin]

Originally Posted by jw75

It is what I want as the PC's main function is as a PVR.

It can be what you want, but it's just that it's fairly crude - and often switches when you don't want it to as well as when you do.

However it's a worthwhile effort for items that don't have CEC, and of course it pre-dates CEC as well.

[geordielady]

Originally Posted by Digifriendly

Hope this is the right forum but here goes anyway. Just purchased a new Sony Bravia TV today and set it up connected to Sky HD box via HDMI cable. Went into settings and set HDMI control to on but the TV won't automatically switch to Sky box when Sky Box is turned on. A message appeared in the TV's settings menu saying that the TV was not detecting the device it was connected to ie. Sky box. I have gone into settings on Sky box but can't find any way to automatically turn HDMI function on (if indeed there is one). Have spent some time on this but can't seem to find an answer. Any help greatly appreciated.

The only HDMI that auto switch are those set up to brava sync i.e. sonys own hardware, I have a sony blu ray player + sony DVD player and both these autoswitch but my 1TB sky box dont.
But this is not always a blessing as sometimes when i switch my TV on its automatically jumps to my blu ray HDMI Port even when the blu ray is not switched on not sure why it does this.

[Nigel Goodwin]

Originally Posted by geordielady

The only HDMI that auto switch are those set up to brava sync i.e. sonys own hardware,

Not at all, CEC-HDMI is universal across brands, but unfortunately other manufacturers give it different names - so you can happily use a Panasonic BD and an LG Surround System on your Sony TV, and both will work perfectly with BRAVIA sync (assuming you pick CEC capable ones of course).

I think it's a pity that they didn't pick a standard name as well as a standard system

This doesn't help your Sky box or Freesat box though, neither of which do CEC - 'possibly' it might be something added to later models?.

[geordielady]

Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin

Not at all, CEC-HDMI is universal across brands, but unfortunately other manufacturers give it different names - so you can happily use a Panasonic BD and an LG Surround System on your Sony TV, and both will work perfectly with BRAVIA sync (assuming you pick CEC capable ones of course).I think it's a pity that they didn't pick a standard name as well as a standard system

This doesn't help your Sky box or Freesat box though, neither of which do CEC - 'possibly' it might be something added to later models?.

I didn't realise that, everything else I have attached to my TV dont auto switch so guess they are not CEC capable, shame really as I think all HDMI attached harware should auto switch by default.
But as I said above its not always foolproof as sometimes when I switch my TV on it will start up on HDMI2 (which is my blu ray player) even if my blu ray player is off and the last thing I used on my TV was sky which is set as HDMI1.

[Nigel Goodwin]

Originally Posted by geordielady

I didn't realise that, everything else I have attached to my TV dont auto switch so guess they are not CEC capable, shame really as I think all HDMI attached harware should auto switch by default.
But as I said above its not always foolproof as sometimes when I switch my TV on it will start up on HDMI2 (which is my blu ray player) even if my blu ray player is off and the last thing I used on my TV was sky which is set as HDMI1.

I don't think CEC-HDMI is anywhere near as good as SCART, which 'generally' worked pretty well (with notable exceptions like Humax, who don't appear to understand SCART at all).

I do find the way remotes are integrated by CEC EXTREMELY annoying though - such as you can't access the TV menu while playing a BD (to adjust the picture perhaps) as it brings up the BD menu instead.

[geordielady]

Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin

I don't think CEC-HDMI is anywhere near as good as SCART, which 'generally' worked pretty well (with notable exceptions like Humax, who don't appear to understand SCART at all).

I do find the way remotes are integrated by CEC EXTREMELY annoying though - such as you can't access the TV menu while playing a BD (to adjust the picture perhaps) as it brings up the BD menu instead.

I just use my TV remote, can access TV settings whilst blu ray is playing.

[Nigel Goodwin]

Originally Posted by geordielady

I just use my TV remote, can access TV settings whilst blu ray is playing.

I've never found that possible - pressing Menu (Home these days) on the TV remote brings up the BD menu.

[geordielady]

Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin

I've never found that possible - pressing Menu (Home these days) on the TV remote brings up the BD menu.

I just hit options on my Sony TV remote and can access everything whilst blu ray is playing.

[Nigel Goodwin]

Originally Posted by geordielady

I just hit options on my Sony TV remote and can access everything whilst blu ray is playing.

I'll give it a go next time I have two together - thanks

[geordielady]

Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin

I'll give it a go next time I have two together - thanks

Yep it sure does work, you get it overlaying the picture on the right hand side of the screen. From there it gives full access to the TV settings.