[sjp07]

Originally Posted by jackbell

But she kept saying "Do you know what I mean ... ?" then sometimes slumping as if she wasn't getting her point across. If she can't articulate she isn't a very good judge.

Having said that - none of them but The Script guy (sorry, mind's gone blank) gave brilliant feedback. Will started every sentence with "Seee .... (massive pause)", Jessie was "Do you know what I mean?? *slump, pout* and Tom was a bit vague.

i agree she isnt very good at getting her point across. i knew that coming in though. if you watch her speeches when she gets awards, it's the same kind awkwardnees. it's like she has a lot in her head at once and it wont come out. i think the point, though, is that their main job isnt supposed to be judging. the bulk of what they do is mentor the acts and help with vocal training, but the bbc chooses not to show that as much as the us version does. they spend the whole week with their people(in this case, when will was around) but they barely show a minute and a half of each person and how they grow during the week unless it's silly. on the us version, we saw the coaches actually training them and having a trial and error period during the week to see how they could play with the vocals. the vts on the uk version are very bland and show pretty much nothing. becky hill was on stage with jessie at a recent concert and they talked about vocal exercises jessie taught her and the others, but we never got to see it. vince also talks about it.

[walterwhite]

Originally Posted by Postmans

It's that old saying popping up again. Never believe all you read in the papers .!!

In my view Tom Jones is spot on for the voice. And bring on the next series.It can only improve, and it's country miles better than cowels offering .!!! The voice had real quality artists that actually have a solid shot at success.

And it found some one who could become a very big name That's my view, you don't have to agree. And you know who i'm on about. !

Are you watching a different show to the rest of us? The tour was cancelled due to lack of interest and the winner's first single bombed.

[maggie_07]

Originally Posted by walterwhite

Are you watching a different show to the rest of us? The tour was cancelled due to lack of interest and the winner's first single bombed.

Please do not speak on my behalf and do not include me as part of "the rest of us". I know I'm not alone in looking forward to the next series and to the albums that will be released by many talented artists from The Voice in the months ahead.

[walterwhite]

Originally Posted by maggie_07

Please do not speak on my behalf and do not include me as part of "the rest of us". I know I'm not alone in looking forward to the next series and to the albums that will be released by many talented artists from The Voice in the months ahead.

Yeah you keep telling yourself that.

One of the biggest flops in tv history, that's the only thing the Voice will ever be remembered for.

[maggie_07]

Originally Posted by walterwhite

Yeah you keep telling yourself that.

One of the biggest flops in tv history, that's the only thing the Voice will ever be remembered for.

So you think an average of 8.5 million viewers is a flop ?
What does that make Superstar then ?

[maggie_07]

Originally Posted by sjp07

i agree she isnt very good at getting her point across. i knew that coming in though. if you watch her speeches when she gets awards, it's the same kind awkwardnees. it's like she has a lot in her head at once and it wont come out. i think the point, though, is that their main job isnt supposed to be judging. the bulk of what they do is mentor the acts and help with vocal training, but the bbc chooses not to show that as much as the us version does. they spend the whole week with their people(in this case, when will was around) but they barely show a minute and a half of each person and how they grow during the week unless it's silly. on the us version, we saw the coaches actually training them and having a trial and error period during the week to see how they could play with the vocals. the vts on the uk version are very bland and show pretty much nothing. becky hill was on stage with jessie at a recent concert and they talked about vocal exercises jessie taught her and the others, but we never got to see it. vince also talks about it.

I agree I'd like to see more of the mentoring. It would give us more idea of what they're like and whether they are prepared to work hard and listen to their coaches and would make it more interesting.

[drwhoru]

tom jones is a singing legend.

rubbish judge/mentor though.

[David1964]

Originally Posted by boysforpele

a big change is needed but it is in the format and presentation not just coaches....that would be shallow thinking....and bad management decision making....

Open Mic Events Nationwide(filmed)/Youtube Entrants
Selected Invited Guests to Blind Auditions (4 weeks of TV showcase filmed in central London Studio)
5 Coaches choose 6 for their team from 50 applicants (explicitly made...if teams are incomplete ...randomly second chances are given in the Blind Auditions stage)
5 Coaches: Tom Jones, Will Young, Will I Am, Florence and The Machine and Tori Amos
Battle Round - Viewers have to choose between two to advance to Live Finals. All Battle Round Songs are available on itun_s
Live Finals - Each Coach has 3 acts (TOP 15). Themed Genre Weeks (Rock,Soul,Pop,Jazz, Classical,Hip Hop, Dance) - Guest Mentors. Viewers vote. Bottom two sing in a sing off and coaches vote to save as a decider. Songs available on i-tun_S. Coaches score each song performance using a 5 score.
Final 4 - All have to perform own original song and best song from competition. Original song available to download from the beginning of the week. Viewers/Coach Score decides winner (Out of 5)

wow, you've certainly put some thought into this, have you thought of emailing the BBC?

[sjp07]

Im totally against themed weeks. it's so cliche and dull. they should do like the first season of the voice in the us and what vince tried to do by covering songs in a completely different style and make it cool. regular artists do it all the time when they do live lounge covers and things. having them just sing a song is so dull and karaoke. in the us they encourage them to not be the same as the original because everyone already knows it that way so what is the point when you are trying to showcase yourself? tony lucca sang a rock version of hit me baby one more time and people went crazy for it. they should also put the covers on itunes like the us and count them as votes. and have online voting. the show has great potential, it's just that the production is terrible, which is ridiculous considering the amount of money that was put into it. they shouldnt pay the contestants. that's just dumb. put them in a hotel together like evryone else.this year the us version is having the spinny chairs in the battle rounds. idk why the uk disliked the battle rounds, that has been everyones favorite part in all the other series.

[walterwhite]

Originally Posted by maggie_07

So you think an average of 8.5 million viewers is a flop ?
What does that make Superstar then ?

What was the idea of the show?

[yohinnchild]

Originally Posted by walterwhite

What was the idea of the show?

To search out and sign up someone with 'The Voice'

Whether you like it or not, it was the most successful debut for a Reality TV Show for quite some time; beating the debuts for XF, PI and FA...

Did it suffer during the lives - yes it did - was the show a complete failure - no not at all.

If you looked at the first series of the XF - how would you deam that a success? the winner was dropped within a few months of being signed and ratings weren't stellar. It became big with its 2nd Series.

[granted08]

I thought he wasn't, there were rumors of Tom touring, but congrats Tom.

[jackbell]

Originally Posted by yohinnchild

To search out and sign up someone with 'The Voice'

Whether you like it or not, it was the most successful debut for a Reality TV Show for quite some time; beating the debuts for XF, PI and FA...

Did it suffer during the lives - yes it did - was the show a complete failure - no not at all.

If you looked at the first series of the XF - how would you deam that a success? the winner was dropped within a few months of being signed and ratings weren't stellar. It became big with its 2nd Series.

It's not to say that pattern will happen with The Voice. I can't see why brilliant ratings of the debut is important. I think it's actually worrying that rating slipped and fell throughout the course of the season. It means people switched off/over.

[yohinnchild]

Originally Posted by jackbell

It's not to say that pattern will happen with The Voice. I can't see why brilliant ratings of the debut is important. I think it's actually worrying that rating slipped and fell throughout the course of the season. It means people switched off/over.

Nope and its not to say that it wont...

Lets wait and see shall we and discuss after series 2...

Series 1 would be a learning curve for everyone concerned - yes it was a bought format, however obviously some things wont work with as UK audience and some things do.

I will be interested to see what changes will occur for next series in order to try and steady the ratings once the chairs disappear - the format as it is (ie the way the lives were with mass exits etc) didn't help

[whoyouarexo]

Love Danny and Will, Tom came up trumps in the end, the only one I wouldn't mind losing is Jessie, but I didn't mind her either.

[Deleria]

Hmm, not really feeling the Tom Jones news - if anyone needed replacing it was Tom and Danny. Seemingly, the worst two are back

[Yes]

Thought Tom constantly looked uncomfortable and just said everyone was great or agreed with other judges.

This show could start by getting judges that call it as they see it rather than blowing smoke up the contestants and trying to convince the public they are watching something they are not.

[mrsgrumpy49]

Originally Posted by Puterkid

Surely they must realise that a total change is needed for this programme?? Why would they just repeat a failing formula?

If it ain't broke don't fix it. You can change the formula without changing the panel. Tom Jones added maturity and experience. Someone for the older person like me who had never even heard of some of the others. And he can actually sing. How novel is that!
He could maybe toughen up a little though. You could see him struggling when he didn't want to come across as being unkind. There again don't most panels have 'nice' and 'nasty'?

That said I think one of the worst mentors and judges was Will who never seemed to know what to say

[boddism]

I liked Tom being in the last series, he gave it gravitas.

He did look uncomfortable a lot though. He was "tactful" though about some of the artists it was pretty clear he wasnt that keen on.It has been a bittersweet series for Tom. he got his winner, but not the one he wanted (I think Ruth wouldve been a sure fire series winner if her timing/pacing was controlled)

I didnt expect all 4 to return. They're all big stars and if I'd predicted 1 of them to go, it'd have been Jessie. Shes a BIG new star & will be thinking about writing her 2nd album about now, hence the timing being off.

[boddism]

His "duet" in the final was the best one. He did overpower Leanne a little, but then he has a really powerful voice, and when compared to Jessie's duet he was quite restrained.

Danny & Will's were just embarrassing....

[walterwhite]

Originally Posted by mrsgrumpy49

If it ain't broke don't fix it. You can change the formula without changing the panel. Tom Jones added maturity and experience. Someone for the older person like me who had never even heard of some of the others. And he can actually sing. How novel is that!
He could maybe toughen up a little though. You could see him struggling when he didn't want to come across as being unkind. There again don't most panels have 'nice' and 'nasty'?

That said I think one of the worst mentors and judges was Will who never seemed to know what to say

If it aint broke don't fix it?

Christ, i've heard it all now.

[sjp07]

Originally Posted by boddism

His "duet" in the final was the best one. He did overpower Leanne a little, but then he has a really powerful voice, and when compared to Jessie's duet he was quite restrained.

Danny & Will's were just embarrassing....

what? jessie's duet was by far the the best. it showed off vince's ability extremely well and helped showcase her power. that duet still has the most views by far out of all of them

[Grace250]

Originally Posted by mrsgrumpy49

That said I think one of the worst mentors and judges was Will who never seemed to know what to say

I don't understand this...isn't Will the mentor who is still after the show giving his acts MORE help and mentoring than any of the others? Within 2 days of Jaz losing out at the semi final Will was with him in the studio, and since the final Will has taken Tyler to perform at a fair some high profile gigs.

I know Danny (along with Mark from the script) have been writing for Max & Bo, but I'm can't say I've heard what input Jessie & Tom are giving their acts now, (I'm not saying they AREN'T helping their acts out, but no one sea to have mentioned it if they are)

[AntoniaA]

Excellent news! I thoroughly enjoyed The Voice (& I saw Tom Jones at the V on Sunday, he was great fun).

[StrictlyRed]

I really enjoyed the Voice too, although I did find Will's ultra slow delivery of feedback quite excruciating at times