[Bill Clinton]

Just noticed and only from the website too.
But I admit I have hardly listened lately, the little bits of Radio City 96.7 such as this that managed to make it through to the Bauer era are slowly but surely biting the dust.
Little things such as the dance shows beginning at 6pm on a Friday night and continuing to 4am on Friday night have started to disappear, it's also a big loss not having its own evening show as it means you can't count on the station for company right through the day. In Demand you see is not "City".
Radio City 96.7 must have been one of the last stations to offer its own countdown as it's now a bit rare now, and it perfectly suited the Saturday morning slot, now it's just another random slot with bits of the breakfast show, shame this couldn't have been mixed in with the chart.
I remember a time when Rock FM & Key 103 also offered their own countdowns, an idea for Bauer could be to offer a networked North West chart between those stations and City.

http://www.radiocity.co.uk/on-air/station-schedule/

[ink171]

They have hit 40 on a sunday dont they? thats just the same thing

[pakokelso93]

Bauer may do something that has been going in Scotland for a year or so now, Mark Martin hosts 'Scotland's top 20' between midday and 2pm. bit like the old Scottish chart show days!

[Gary Brenton]

Originally Posted by ink171

They have hit 40 on a sunday dont they? thats just the same thing

Yep...same playlist...different order....and infact I will never understand as to why most stations even carry the chart show when they play the same format 24/7...?

[RadioKnower]

Originally Posted by Gary Brenton

Yep...same playlist...different order....and infact I will never understand as to why most stations even carry the chart show when they play the same format 24/7...?

As you've been told many times. Because they get paid for it and therefor make money that if they didn't.

[dpb]

Originally Posted by Bill Clinton

Just noticed and only from the website too.
But I admit I have hardly listened lately, the little bits of Radio City 96.7 such as this that managed to make it through to the Bauer era are slowly but surely biting the dust.
Little things such as the dance shows beginning at 6pm on a Friday night and continuing to 4am on Friday night have started to disappear, it's also a big loss not having its own evening show as it means you can't count on the station for company right through the day. In Demand you see is not "City".
Radio City 96.7 must have been one of the last stations to offer its own countdown as it's now a bit rare now, and it perfectly suited the Saturday morning slot, now it's just another random slot with bits of the breakfast show, shame this couldn't have been mixed in with the chart.
I remember a time when Rock FM & Key 103 also offered their own countdowns, an idea for Bauer could be to offer a networked North West chart between those stations and City.

http://www.radiocity.co.uk/on-air/station-schedule/

I think was replaced a few months ago.

[richie wild]

Not a listener to City, I went upstairs in work and heard JX's song that goes something like "there's nothing I can do, can't keep my hands off you..." which was announced at, say, number 7 in their local chart. Great song, I thought to myself, and went to Liverpool's HMV on Church Street who sponsored it at the time. "I don't know what it's called, but it's number 7 on your local chart show on Radio City" I enquired at the cash desk. "That's nothing to do with us, they just make it up" came the reply from the assistant.

I had no idea they still did it. I remember listening to it when Dave Eastwood did it back in the early 80's.

[Mapperley Ridge]

Great story Richie! But I'm pretty sure that they wouldn't get away with "making it up" - even back then. Anything that claims to be a chart has to have some kind of qualification - I suspect in City's case back then it was probably airplay. But there were stations which collated sales figures from a few local shops and converted them into a chart, of sorts. Tiny samples, of course, and probably not too scientific.

[Shrewn]

I used to remember the local charts at weekends, City was always Saturday morning (Didn’t Merseyside do one as well?). Piccadilly had the Hitline Hit 30, Sunday 1-3. Beacon had the WM Chart Sundays 12-2 and I even recall Radio Wales having a chart at one point

[Max Awesome]

Originally Posted by Mapperley Ridge

But I'm pretty sure that they wouldn't get away with "making it up" - even back then.

I don't know specifically about City's, but all the local charts at stations I was involved with throughout the 90's were complete fabrications.

As for airplay to produce chart positions, that's cobblers. All the songs on the A, B & C lists would have the same chart postion!

[Robbie01]

Many years ago (in the late 70s / very early 80s) some local station charts were compiled by a trade magazine called Record Business. When that magazine closed down its chart department (under the name MRIB) took over compiling local charts as well as the Network Chart from late 1984.

There are still Scottish and Welsh singles charts compiled so it wouldn't be beyond the ability of the Official Charts Company to produce regional charts.

http://www.officialcharts.com/scottish-singles-chart/

[ink171]

Originally Posted by Robbie01

it wouldn't be beyond the ability of the Official Charts Company to produce regional charts.

http://www.officialcharts.com/scottish-singles-chart/

I wonder if they'd still be able to do that now most people download the songs?

[Robbie01]

Originally Posted by ink171

I wonder if they'd still be able to do that now most people download the songs?

I'm guessing they probably can as both the Scottish and Welsh charts include downloads. It was easy in the days of physical sales as sales were linked by the postcode of the record store to the ITV region the store was in. The OCC would produce daily and weekly charts which included a breakdown of regional sales both by units sold and by %. It still is possible to do that for physical sales for albums. Singles are 99.6% downloads these days (for albums the figure is around 35%) so to compile the Scottish and Welsh singles charts some reference must be made to the postcode of the account the person has with e.g. iTunes or Amazon. I can't think of any other way they could be compiled - if it was by IP address of the person making the purchase it would often show the wrong region (I'm with BT and my location shows as Edinburgh sometimes, London other times but I live near Newcastle). Of course the problem with linking it to postcodes for accounts is that someone could be buying the download in Ealing or Eastbourne but if the card is registered in Edinburgh it would count as a Scottish sale.

I assume the OCC can also use whatever method they use to compile the two national charts to compile region specific charts.

[andy2805]

They also seemed to have got rid of the rewind with Rossy on a Sunday - gutted

[Bill Clinton]

Originally Posted by andy2805

They also seemed to have got rid of the rewind with Rossy on a Sunday - gutted

That was a good slot as well, hope this doesn't mean that City is slowly but surely losing its character, because in reality it is, but it's still one of the best local commercial radio stations in the country.

[wckartist]

Originally Posted by Max Awesome

I don't know specifically about City's, but all the local charts at stations I was involved with throughout the 90's were complete fabrications.

There were some stations back in the late seventies at it as well.....if Mapperley thinks it hasn't happened, he's pretty naive!

[1974]

Originally Posted by Bill Clinton

Just noticed and only from the website too.
But I admit I have hardly listened lately, the little bits of Radio City 96.7 such as this that managed to make it through to the Bauer era are slowly but surely biting the dust.
Little things such as the dance shows beginning at 6pm on a Friday night and continuing to 4am on Friday night have started to disappear, it's also a big loss not having its own evening show as it means you can't count on the station for company right through the day. In Demand you see is not "City".
Radio City 96.7 must have been one of the last stations to offer its own countdown as it's now a bit rare now, and it perfectly suited the Saturday morning slot, now it's just another random slot with bits of the breakfast show, shame this couldn't have been mixed in with the chart.
I remember a time when Rock FM & Key 103 also offered their own countdowns, an idea for Bauer could be to offer a networked North West chart between those stations and City.

http://www.radiocity.co.uk/on-air/station-schedule/

Radio City had some fantastic evening shows. Scott Hughes did the last genuine Radio City evening show, but there were others too who did some great shows in the slot as I was growing up, Rick Houghton, Neil Atkinson, Rick Shaw and Louis Hurst stood out in particular. In this era of the networked in demand it seems as if weekend breakfast has taken over as the show for the more up and coming dj's to build up a following, and be the springboard to other things that the old evening show used to be.

Despite having increased networking, Radio City seems to hold on to more of its own programming than most, if not all of Bauer's stations. Rock Fm get much more extreme weekday networking as they take all of Key 103's output between 7pm & 6am.

[Bill Clinton]

Originally Posted by 1974

Despite having increased networking, Radio City seems to hold on to more of its own programming than most, if not all of Bauer's stations. Rock Fm get much more extreme weekday networking as they take all of Key 103's output between 7pm & 6am.

And yet Bauer does let them both do their own thing on Sunday nights which now feels like a nice little oddity, it's the same with City too. Rock FM has a distinctive offering, Freejack's Dance Classics from 7pm and then goes on to have a late show not shared with Key 103. I still miss the days when you could enjoys a stations own output around the clock, networked shows always suffer from having no proper identity and purpose to them.

Rock FM has some very strong imaging at the moment and I noticed on Saturday mornings they actually do their own Hit 20, I just wish as with City that I could actually listen more to this station instead of hearing In Demand or the rather banal late show from Key, if they are going to network something if only it could be more like James Stannage! Perhaps Pete Price from City would work well networked also to Rock FM, am I remembering this right that Pete Price was once networked between Magic 999 (Preston) and Magic 1548 (Liverpool)?

Evening and later at night is my favourite time to listen to the radio and yet it's the first place where we lose output!

[1974]

Originally Posted by Bill Clinton

And yet Bauer does let them both do their own thing on Sunday nights which now feels like a nice little oddity, it's the same with City too. Rock FM has a distinctive offering, Freejack's Dance Classics from 7pm and then goes on to have a late show not shared with Key 103. I still miss the days when you could enjoys a stations own output around the clock, networked shows always suffer from having no proper identity and purpose to them.

Rock FM has some very strong imaging at the moment and I noticed on Saturday mornings they actually do their own Hit 20, I just wish as with City that I could actually listen more to this station instead of hearing In Demand or the rather banal late show from Key, if they are going to network something if only it could be more like James Stannage! Perhaps Pete Price from City would work well networked also to Rock FM, am I remembering this right that Pete Price was once networked between Magic 999 (Preston) and Magic 1548 (Liverpool)?

Evening and later at night is my favourite time to listen to the radio and yet it's the first place where we lose output!

Yes, your correct about Pete Price being networked to Preston from Liverpool on Magic. Can't be sure but it might have even been picked up by some of the other Magic's for a short time too.

It is a shame about the evening shows being lost. I grew up in Wigan and was geographically sat in the middle of the triangulation of Radio City, Rock FM and Key 103, so could essentially 'shop around' for my listening needs, you retune now to hear the same output and yes that does lead to a loss of identity. In Demand is nothing like the spirit of the shows they replaced. Radio City railed against it as much as possible by not taking the show on a Friday night until very recently, and some weeks if Liverpool and Everton had midweek football matches covered the In Demand would only make it on air twice a week.

Nice to see this Friday that City seem to be doing some dance programming from Ibiza. Dave Kelly is listed doing 7-10pm in place of In Demand.

[Steve_Watt]

Originally Posted by Shrewn

I used to remember the local charts at weekends, City was always Saturday morning (Didn’t Merseyside do one as well?). Piccadilly had the Hitline Hit 30, Sunday 1-3. Beacon had the WM Chart Sundays 12-2 and I even recall Radio Wales having a chart at one point

The Picadilly Hit 30 was a law unto it's self. I think it ended when The Network chart started.

Another strange chart was the Victory Roll when it started. Though it became "realistic in 1977 and was sales based up until 1980 (based on sales of the record dept of the Co -op in Portsmouth whose manager was Tony Power a Victory Jock until they started to take the MRIB top 40 as did most other ILRs)

Anyone else know what their "local" ILR did chartwise around the time?

[JERRY HIPKISS]

Originally Posted by Steve_Watt

Anyone else know what their "local" ILR did chartwise around the time?

IIRC at Severn Sound in the 80's we used to ring around record shops in Cheltenham, Gloucester, and Stroud and then take it from there...