[TheFridge]

Could Steve Cram of been anymore obvious about thinking this Algerian matey is doped without actually saying it ?

[RepublicOfYorks]

Originally Posted by TheFridge

Could Steve Cram of been anymore obvious about thinking this Algerian matey is doped without actually saying it ?

Exactly the same as Sanchez last night. It's like he's suspicious of everybody...

[Black Rain]

Maybe Steve Cram is French!!!

[lightblues]

Originally Posted by TheFridge

Could Steve Cram of been anymore obvious about thinking this Algerian matey is doped without actually saying it ?

Yeah I know,I just started a similar thread, I don't think he should be saying these kind of things.

[goldielox]

Well at least we now know how easy it is to get a dodgy doctors note

[jediknight2k1]

He did raise a valid point though. The winner had a doctors note stating he was injured but went on to lead the field and win.

If was injured then how did win with a stong lead ? It seems obvious the report was false or the athlete lied.

It brings up the question of falsifying medical records which is illegal the last I knew.

[Jimmy Connors]

I think every athlete should be given the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise. For me there's no point watching them if I am going to question their performances.

The Dr's note does seem a little strange though. He clearly was not injured. Maybe the Algerian delegation messed up by entering him in both events before checking the bloody schedule.

[pinkiepie232]

i think the doctors note was just a logistical thing to get over the mistake they made by entering him in both races. I honestly don't see what the fuss is about. Sometimes you have to tell a fib or two to through the system and I can't imagine the schedulers would have been happy with any other excuse besides 'injury.'

As for the doping thing - meh, he'll get tested anyway and i so don't agree with the vibe the commentators put out there. Terrible.

[mtj]

Originally Posted by jediknight2k1

He did raise a valid point though. The winner had a doctors note stating he was injured but went on to lead the field and win.

If was injured then how did win with a stong lead ? It seems obvious the report was false or the athlete lied.

It brings up the question of falsifying medical records which is illegal the last I knew.

Yes, but Cram was casting aspersions in the semis, before this whole 800m doctors note debacle.

It is not his job to try to "out" the dopers. Let the testers deal with that.

[JohnnyForget]

Originally Posted by Black Rain

Maybe Steve Cram is French!!!

Steve Cram is actually half-German (on his mother's side).

[lightblues]

Originally Posted by pinkiepie232

i think the doctors note was just a logistical thing to get over the mistake they made by entering him in both races. I honestly don't see what the fuss is about. Sometimes you have to tell a fib or two to through the system and I can't imagine the schedulers would have been happy with any other excuse besides 'injury.'

As for the doping thing - meh, he'll get tested anyway and i so don't agree with the vibe the commentators put out there. Terrible.

I Agree, he should'nt have been disqualified in the first place .

[thejel]

won at a canter which is a bit strange at this level. As per last night with Sanchez he didnt get much congratulation from his fellow competitors which speaks volumes to me...

[Shappy]

Thought it was horrible of Cram (or whoever the commentator was) to so blatantly imply there was something dodgy about the winner. So what if he won by so much? The triathlete winner ran only a minute and a half slower than Mo over 10,000m but no one was casting doubt on him.

[thejel]

the triathlete was physically spent - our 1500 friend looked like he was ready to go 10 rounds with Tyson!

[fox on the run]

Originally Posted by Shappy

Thought it was horrible of Cram (or whoever the commentator was) to so blatantly imply there was something dodgy about the winner. So what if he won by so much? The triathlete winner ran only a minute and a half slower than Mo over 10,000m but no one was casting doubt on him.

The triathlete has been consistently winning races for quite a while so what happened today was nothing unusual. No doubt he will have had many random tests during that spell. The difference here is that the 1500m winner has suddenly started clocking amazing times and beating people he normally wouldn't.
I agree that Cram shouldn't really be commenting at the moment but if he has suspicions about him then it's a bit difficult for him to get excited when he crosses the line.
Personally I find it all a bit fishy but only time will tell.

[Shappy]

Originally Posted by thejel

the triathlete was physically spent - our 1500 friend looked like he was ready to go 10 rounds with Tyson!

The triathelete guy was 90 secs slower than Mo having biked and swam before that! Plus he jogged and walked the last bit of the race. I'm not saying he doped, I just used it as a comparator that amazing achievements are possible and are more often doubted when they are attained by foreigners, like the Chinese swimmer.

Originally Posted by fox on the run

The triathlete has been consistently winning races for quite a while so what happened today was nothing unusual. No doubt he will have had many random tests during that spell. The difference here is that the 1500m winner has suddenly started clocking amazing times and beating people he normally wouldn't.
I agree that Cram shouldn't really be commenting at the moment but if he has suspicions about him then it's a bit difficult for him to get excited when he crosses the line.
Personally I find it all a bit fishy but only time will tell.

Cram should be professional. By all means, don't jump up and down but neither should he be spending the entire end of the race talking only about the dodginess of the guy.

[Jimmy Connors]

Originally Posted by Shappy

Cram should be professional. By all means, don't jump up and down but neither should he be spending the entire end of the race talking only about the dodginess of the guy.

I agree. Cram should have been a little more professional. It's not really his place to play judge and jury.

[Smokeychan1]

I will follow these threads around to say this. Steve did not once imply the Algerian was taking enhancements, he questioned whether his injury was genuine.

Please listen to the commentary again.

[TheFridge]

Originally Posted by thejel

won at a canter which is a bit strange at this level. As per last night with Sanchez he didnt get much congratulation from his fellow competitors which speaks volumes to me...

I cant help being suss about it either , when performances like them on the biggest stage come out of nowhere you would be naive to believe all is fine and dandy and not be a little suss.

[Electra]

Originally Posted by fox on the run

The triathlete has been consistently winning races for quite a while so what happened today was nothing unusual. No doubt he will have had many random tests during that spell. The difference here is that the 1500m winner has suddenly started clocking amazing times and beating people he normally wouldn't.
I agree that Cram shouldn't really be commenting at the moment but if he has suspicions about him then it's a bit difficult for him to get excited when he crosses the line.
Personally I find it all a bit fishy but only time will tell.

The winning time was good but not particularly startling. 3.34 plus bits, wasn't it? Maybe his rivals 'under performed'.

[Smokeychan1]

Let's hear what he says now.

[TheFridge]

Originally Posted by fox on the run

The triathlete has been consistently winning races for quite a while so what happened today was nothing unusual. No doubt he will have had many random tests during that spell. The difference here is that the 1500m winner has suddenly started clocking amazing times and beating people he normally wouldn't.
I agree that Cram shouldn't really be commenting at the moment but if he has suspicions about him then it's a bit difficult for him to get excited when he crosses the line.
Personally I find it all a bit fishy but only time will tell.

I was going to write something very similar to this earlier but couldn't be bothered , got distracted , the bit about Cram not being able to get excited is spot on , Cram knows his stuff.

Did you hear the bit when they went back to Sally Pearsons race and he said something along the lines of 'and now to a proper champion' ... Cram could not of been more obvious.


Here he is now talking about it in the studio with Gabby , should be interesting.

[chrono88]

This fake injury is just a travesty to the Games.

[TheFridge]

Ye that just confirms it if it didn't already , Cram aint happy about that at all.

[Shappy]

Cram was defo implying something was not right about the win yet again, and it was not about the 800m sick note.