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Old 18-04-2012, 21:07   #1
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i-CAN HD Freeview tuner

Anyone else got one?

Cracking bit of kit for 35 quid from Maplins but, try as I might I cannot get it to tune in Film 4 on ch 15 from Sandy Heath transmitter.

I have a Sony Bravia 32" tv and two other Freeview devices and they all get Film 4 fine.

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Old 18-04-2012, 21:57   #2
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Try a total reset of it. Some boxes just love to misbehave and normally, resetting the box, aswell as full rescan without the ariel in the back helps it too, in clearing the memory.
I do it with mine when it plays up, works a doddle, for me atleast.

Hope you sort it, let us know how you go
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Old 18-04-2012, 22:28   #3
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Try a total reset of it. Some boxes just love to misbehave and normally, resetting the box, aswell as full rescan without the ariel in the back helps it too, in clearing the memory.
I do it with mine when it plays up, works a doddle, for me atleast.

Hope you sort it, let us know how you go
I have done a re set, a no signal scan, and a manual scan. It just will not "see" that channel (or 14 or 18).

It is not really a bother since I can get and record Film 4 ok. The box also gets me BBC iPlayer and at better quality than via a computer (have not sorted subtitles yet tho!) . There is also another "trick" to iPlayer but I won't post that.

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Old 18-04-2012, 23:01   #4
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as well as full rescan without the ariel in the back helps it too, in
Yeah, certainly don't put washing powder (ariel) in the back.
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Old 18-04-2012, 23:02   #5
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Sadly can't get mine to behave either - as posted here in another thread.

I get different results from auto tuning and manual tuning but neither are acceptable. Only just bought it, so thinking of taking it back...
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Old 19-04-2012, 00:36   #6
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Yeah, certainly don't put washing powder (ariel) in the back.
Remind me just how your post is constructive then?
Im damn sure you have made the odd spelling mistake here and there, shall i go through all your posts and point them out to you also?

Now, back to the proper point of the thread...
I got mine for the BBC iPlayer ability, have it upstairs in the bedroom with the Humax Freesat box downstairs, but have heard more than a few stories that they are temper-mental when they want to be, sorry you couldn't get it to work properly.

Is it just Film4 you cannot get, or do you have other channels missing too?
Also, is it possible you are getting your DTT signal from a relay station, as most of them don't carry the mux that Film4 is on, so posting where you get your DTT signal from would be good
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Old 19-04-2012, 05:16   #7
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Morning Popeye13,
I get my signals directly from the Sandy Heath transmitter Bedford and I am at NN5 5P$. Now I have had VERY variable results from Sandy over the years and have attempted to get some sense from various parties as to why my reception is sometime wiped out. For instance I cannot get a firm answer as to whether digital TV is immune or not to co-channel interference! But, since when reception is good the i-CAN box still does not grab ch15 that is not relevent here.

My aerial (£130 wide band jobbie fitted especially for DTV) feeds a Labgear 6+1 splitter amp mod# MSA262. This give an 8dB lift per output and +18dB on the +1 full output which I have feeding the i-CAN since the box seems very much less sensitive than the rest of my kit. I would for instance be very interested to know the signal meter readings for other i-CAN users? Mine never shows any signal higher than about 46% but the "quality" is usually at 95-100%.

Have I got a particularly low sensitivity sample?

BTW I recieve 105 TV, 46 radio channels and 16 "others" but this depends when I do a scan to some extent.

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Old 19-04-2012, 11:18   #8
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Remind me just how your post is constructive then?
Im damn sure you have made the odd spelling mistake here and there, shall i go through all your posts and point them out to you also?
This is a very common mistake, not just an odd spelling mistake. I've even seen vans sign written with it. Perhaps we should have a sticky about it.
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Old 19-04-2012, 12:04   #9
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This is a very common mistake, not just an odd spelling mistake. I've even seen vans sign written with it. Perhaps we should have a sticky about it.
We have "Bee Tee " taxis but the picture is of a wasp, yellow and black!

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Old 19-04-2012, 12:47   #10
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I have one of these i-Can STB and they are a cracking little box for the price, especially the iPlayer being the 'big screen' version. Never had a tuning issues (Emley Moor) but the HD channels would keep freezing. Signal strength was always at about 85% but the signal quality was all over the place.

Worth noting that they will not output Dolby 5.1 from 5.1 AAC audio as used in this country, eg no transcoding unless there has been a recent update to the firmware to allow it.
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Old 19-04-2012, 23:05   #11
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I would for instance be very interested to know the signal meter readings for other i-CAN users? Mine never shows any signal higher than about 46% but the "quality" is usually at 95-100%.
My i-Can box is reading between 46% and 77% for signal strength. The signal quality is 89% for one multiplex and 100% for all others.

The signal strength is lower than equipment further up the same RF cable for a few of the muxes; it's evenly 75% across them all at the first device in the chain.
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Old 21-04-2012, 15:22   #12
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I have done a re set, a no signal scan, and a manual scan. It just will not "see" that channel (or 14 or 18).

It is not really a bother since I can get and record Film 4 ok. The box also gets me BBC iPlayer and at better quality than via a computer (have not sorted subtitles yet tho!) . There is also another "trick" to iPlayer but I won't post that.Dave.
Why won't you post it?
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Old 21-04-2012, 15:38   #13
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Because discussion of ways to receive content that is illegal, like hacking and so forth, is not allowed on DS, its an act that will most likely see you banned permanently.
You have the internet, use it....
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Old 21-04-2012, 18:22   #14
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Because discussion of ways to receive content that is illegal, like hacking and so forth, is not allowed on DS, its an act that will most likely see you banned permanently.
You have the internet, use it....
...what? I'm assuming he wasn't talking about iPlayer downloading (the legality of which I'm not sure about), so how whatever he was talking about possibly be illegal?
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Old 21-04-2012, 19:11   #15
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...There is also another "trick" to iPlayer but I won't post that.

Dave.
is that pertaining to iplayer and the i-can stb?
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Old 10-08-2012, 07:32   #16
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Sorry for being away, been a bit poorly.

Samsung29. The "trick" I do not want to broadcast because if "they" realize it "they" will I am sure take steps, if they can, to stop it and it is boodly handy! PM me.

MartiB and NoDogs: Have you registered your i-can tuner with them? I tried when I first had it but could never get the anti-spam catcher right and being ill I gave up. Tried again this week but no joy. Tried to email the parent company Advanced Digital Broadcasting but all my emails got bounced back by the Demon.
Anykind of "in" you have to i-can would be greatly appreciated.

BTW, I have had almost only 10% BBC coverage of the olympics due (they say) to co-channel interference. This hardly ever affects ITVs and I thought digital b'casting was supposed to be immune to co-ch?

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Old 10-08-2012, 09:34   #17
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I-Can HD

I also bought one of these for the BBC I-Player for a tele in my office. I already had a freeview tuner which got virtually a 100% signal. After installing the I-Can I saw that the picture was breaking up and freezing, so I went through the set up again expecting it to pick up stronger signals, but no luck. I tried a reset but that didn't help. Switched off and unplugged for 30 minutes. No change. Tried a reset again and then it crashed. Whatever I did I couldn't get it to do anything at all.
So sent it back to Playcom who immediately gave me a refund. Pity. I still get a marvellous picture from my other freeview tuner, but no I-Player.
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Old 10-08-2012, 19:15   #18
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I also bought one of these for the BBC I-Player for a tele in my office. I already had a freeview tuner which got virtually a 100% signal. After installing the I-Can I saw that the picture was breaking up and freezing, so I went through the set up again expecting it to pick up stronger signals, but no luck. I tried a reset but that didn't help. Switched off and unplugged for 30 minutes. No change. Tried a reset again and then it crashed. Whatever I did I couldn't get it to do anything at all.
So sent it back to Playcom who immediately gave me a refund. Pity. I still get a marvellous picture from my other freeview tuner, but no I-Player.
Oddly enough the only signals my tuner gets with almost 100% reliabilty is the Sandy Heath HD channels!

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Old 10-08-2012, 19:32   #19
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eco88, I never tried to register my iCan. I've now replaced it with a Humax HDR Fox T2. More expensive kit I know, but it is a lot more sensitve and does not freeze on HD channels.

I also seem to recall the iCan worked with some of the internet TV channels, eg Sports Tonight whereas the Humax does not.
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Old 12-08-2012, 10:39   #20
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a lot of my channels are up in the 800's on this box. Its only in the bedroom so I will live with it.

When you scan for channels it asks you what your primary region etc is. What should I put in, I get choices of WEST and ENGLAND.
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Bit OT but,

At the moment I get a split screen on BBC HD ch 54.

Is this a 3D thing?

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Old 12-08-2012, 11:15   #22
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Bit OT but,

At the moment I get a split screen on BBC HD ch 54.

Is this a 3D thing?

Dave.
Yes that's what it looks like on non-3d sets
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Yes that's what it looks like on non-3d sets
Right, well I hope they get their own channel to experiment with soon! On a slightly similar note..

The beeb opened up BBC 3 (ch 7) all day for the olympics. Since they pretty well pinched all of BBC1's airtime as well would it not have been fairer to have opened BBC4 as well for the duration?

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Right, well I hope they get their own channel to experiment with soon! On a slightly similar note..

The beeb opened up BBC 3 (ch 7) all day for the olympics. Since they pretty well pinched all of BBC1's airtime as well would it not have been fairer to have opened BBC4 as well for the duration?

Dave.
They shut down BBC Parliament to free up capacity for all-day BBC3. To run BBC 4 all day would mean closing something else. However I would agree that BBC1, BBC 3 and News and HD variants running virtually the same thing was overkill, especially for those of us who don't follow sport. It's all academic now anyway.
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a lot of my channels are up in the 800's on this box. Its only in the bedroom so I will live with it.

When you scan for channels it asks you what your primary region etc is. What should I put in, I get choices of WEST and ENGLAND.
Gwrbristol, I had exactly the same problem as the box is picking up multiple transmitters. But it still can't put the strongest channels in the correct order as it lists loads of weak channels in the main 1-728 channels allocation and the strongest ones in the 800 range.

Go on the www.digitaluk.co.uk website and put in your postcode and house name/number and tick detailed view. Then find the main transmitter you are on and make a note of the 6 UHF frequencies listed under the grey circle with N in it.

The way to get round it is to factory reset it and unplug the aerial and let it retune but make it fail to pick anything up and say no to retune again. This will allow you to get past the auto setup.

Then tune them all in by doing a manual channel search using the UHF frequencies you got from DigitalUK

Menu - Channel Search - Manual Channel Search

The channels will now be listed in the correct order on the EPG from your transmitter.
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