[Des leader]

thanks again to everyone whos helped and prvided nuggets of info and advice. I'm booked onto a day-long course now, but not for a few weeks, so will try a few things out before getting there.

I think stews and bolognase type foods seem to be the way to go, along with frozen fish (but not battered/crumbed!). I'll try doing a veg patch, but realistically this isnt going to happen until spring next year, but its a step in the right drection.

And to Alsmama, yep, thats pretty much all i have to spend as im on JSA so have about £70 a week, of which a lot goes on paying for petrol, phone, internet, car insurance and doesnt leave a huge amount. But once im back in employment, oviously things get easier and i can buy more meat and veg (and must remember not to buy choccy)!

[Croctacus]

If you've been put on metformin you'll shit yourself thin.

[smudges dad]

Originally Posted by Croctacus

If you've been put on metformin you'll shit yourself thin.

four a day

[Croctacus]

4x 500mg? Yeah...that'll do it!

[Franglais]

My diabetes doctor started me off on this stuff. Once a day at first then gradually built up to three daily.

And, yes, I should have worn brown trousers at the beginning......

[Hotgossip]

Originally Posted by Red Whine

I was diagnosed with T2 in July last year.
I've cut out wheat and all it's associated products, I can eat products containing oats though, so it's porridge or an oat based granola for breakfast, cold meat and oatcakes followed by a low far from age frais for lunch, and then meat and veg, followed by fresh fruit for tea.

I've also cut my portion size by about half, and I have lost nearly 4 stone, and gone down 3 dress sizes in that time.

OP, mince can be padded out with oats and veg.

We have a course called EXPERT in this area, and I'm booked into it in November.

That is an amazing weight loss. Well done!

[Mutter]

Just a reminder that exercise is very important.My ex got fantastic results without altering his diet at all but he rowed every day.

[Nesta Robbins]

Hi Des - Have a look at low GI eating. As well as the obvious culprits, it will let you know where sugar is hiding in savoury food too. Most importantly though, it will open up lots of new foods, you may have thought you couldn't have, but that keep blood sugar levels stable. This means you can experiment with new tastes and enjoy your "new eating and you'll notice a difference almost immediately, because you quickly lose those sugar cravings, and don't have the urge to snack.

Here's some information from the Diabetes Organisation, which explains how eating low GI foods helps those with diabetes. Some recipes too.

http://www.diabetes.org.uk/Guide-to-...ycaemic-Index/
Good luck.

[skribbleuk]

Yeah cut the carbs, good advice given already.

Could also look at Intermittent fasting or alternate day fasting. I do this as type 1, but I have a very good check on my sugars and know my levemir won't drop me if I don't eat, it keeps me steady.

[Red Whine]

Metformin gave me dreadful tummy troubles, so I'm now on Januvia, (sitaglyptin), and it's fine, one a day straight after my main meal.

[c4rv]

Originally Posted by skribbleuk

Yeah cut the carbs, good advice given already.

Could also look at Intermittent fasting or alternate day fasting. I do this as type 1, but I have a very good check on my sugars and know my levemir won't drop me if I don't eat, it keeps me steady.

I would clarify this a bit further, cut processed carbs. As a previous poster mentioned low GI carbs such as beans are still fine though obviously watch the quantity.

[skribbleuk]

Originally Posted by c4rv

I would clarify this a bit further, cut processed carbs. As a previous poster mentioned low GI carbs such as beans are still fine though obviously watch the quantity.

Not for me, and especially in sauce. Low GI carbs give me nearly the same 1 hr spikes as normal carbs.

http://www.diabetes-book.com/cms/art...ce-facn-fccws-

is pretty interesting reading regarding GI stuff, and why it is less than ideal for diabetics.

[c4rv]

Originally Posted by skribbleuk

Not for me, and especially in sauce. Low GI carbs give me nearly the same 1 hr spikes as normal carbs.

I guess that everyone does react to food in different ways. My aunt was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes and without beans and legumes would really struggle with protein intake as she is vegetarian. All credit to her, she has lost around 3 stone mainly thought watching what she eats, since being diagnosed.

[cat's whiskas]

Originally Posted by skribbleuk

http://www.diabetes-book.com/cms/art...ce-facn-fccws-
.

Another quack from America making money with their theories by selling books, there are lots of them about

Seriously though if it works for you then good luck with it!

[skribbleuk]

Originally Posted by cat's whiskas

Another quack from America making money with their theories by selling books, there are lots of them about

Seriously though if it works for you then good luck with it!

Quack? Did you even read any of it, or look into who this guy is?

If you or anyone you know has ever tested their blood sugar at home, they have him to thank for it.

And yes, personally it does work for me. His advice and support from other low carbers has helped me reverse my eye damage, beginnings of kidney damage and has normalised my Hba1c. All of the damage was gained by strictly following the NHS guidelines, by the way.

[Progrez]

Originally Posted by AdamCleland

The biggest misconception about weight loss is that you have to eat salad. You really don't have to eat salad.

How wrong you are vegetables are good for and you can add meat into your salad. Vegetables as well stuff like spinach and the protein in the chicken (if you are having a chicken salad) help with fat loss.

[Maria_Robinson]

A friend of mine was diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes as she had put on a lot of weight in middle age. She cut out ALL sweet things - deffo no cakes or biscuits and take care when you have fruit as if its over ripe that increases the sugar. No butter and halves her portions and she has shed over a stone and her sugars are down. You have to revaluate your eating habits and lifestyle as Diabetes is a serious illness and cause untold damage to your body if it is not kept in check.

[bazaar1]

Originally Posted by Progrez

How wrong you are vegetables are good for and you can add meat into your salad. Vegetables as well stuff like spinach and the protein in the chicken (if you are having a chicken salad) help with fat loss.

Firstly - why wake up an old thread just to have a go. and secondly - the poster you quoted didn't say veggies aren't good, they said you don't have to just eat salad. which is true.

[callmediva]

A nice, quick, easy and cheap meal to make is to chop up a load of veg (broccoli, mushrooms, peppers etc) throw them into a wok and add either a cheese or tomato sauce (home made if pos) If you want meat with it, you can add mince or diced beef, but the veg on its own is plenty filling enough.

We've been low carbing since Mrs Diva was diagnosed as type 2 a couple of years ago. at first we controlled it with diet, but she got a bit worse and went onto Metformin, but had a reaction to it and was put on the slow release version. Since then, however, she's had her medication reduced and is hoping to be off the tablets again later this year

[nvingo]

An old thread resurrected, but:
1) begin a meal with soup. Theory, food blended with water makes you feel fuller than food and water consumed separately. So you should eat less.
2) don't hurry the meal. There is a time delay between being satisfied and your brain saying "stop eating". Eat more slowly and you'll stop eating having less exceeded your requirements.

[nvingo]

Also;-
Visit the supermarkets in the evening when they are clearing the perishables. Fresh fruit, vegetables, bread and chilled goods can be had for even below 10% of their normal price. I recently bought baguettes for a penny and fresh pumpkin soup for 9p.
If the supermarket is a suitable distance, walk or cycle there. Daily this can contribute to the exercise you also need to do to slim.