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Old 13-08-2012, 03:24   #1
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Changes to the Voice US battle round format! Should the UK follow?

The Voice Executive Producer, Mark Burnett is holding a press conference at his sprawling estate tonight, in order to outline format changed to the third season of The Voice. Carson Daley,*Christina Aguilera, Cee-Lo, Blake Shelton*and*Adam Levine*are also on hand to discuss the new season.

Here they are in a nutshell

*For Season 3, when one coach eliminates an artist in the Battle Round, another coach can buzz in and “steal” them. Coaches are allowed to steal two each then leave the Battle Rounds with 10 contestants each.
There will be a “Knockout” round that brings the number of contestants down to 5.
Knockouts represent a second part of the battle umbrella that gives us great, great TV, says Carson
Reporters got an opportunity to watch a Season 3 Battle, with a steal as an example.
“People who deserve to stay, now get a chance to stay” says Mark.
Adam Levine says he’s proud of the fact that other superstars are now doing music shows. “We made this cool.”
“The blind audition replaced the need to find terrible singers and rip them,” Mark Burnett says.
Carson quips how none of them knew who @BlakeShelton was when they first met. #harhar #TheVoice
“This isn’t our day job. We’re doing this for the right reasons,” says Blake Shelton
Mark Burnett says he’d like the four The Voice*judges to keep first position even if they have to sit out a season to tour.
No deals in place yet with the coaches for the spring season of The Voice*but Cee-Lo says he’d like to do it.

Taken from http://www.mjsbigblog.com/the-voice-...source=twitter

Very interesting if you ask me plus I think the UK version of the show needs a revamp next season with better production quality etc to compete with the Xfactor.

I think the UK should change the format but do you? Discuss below
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Old 13-08-2012, 04:10   #2
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The UK show needs a total overhaul after the blind audition rounds - it needs more excitement and less contestants so that the viewers can get to know them better. Also it shouldn't present itself as a serious gimmick free show and then make their contestants remind the viewers of their personal problems every week - Amy Winehouse popping up in Tyler James' VT every week is the one that stands out here.
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Old 13-08-2012, 09:20   #3
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I like the steal element and the extra knockout round shou anfld help to get to know contestants. Other changes for the uk one could be less wiloughbooby (as lovely as she is), emeli sande for jessie and a new way of eliminating
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Old 13-08-2012, 11:50   #4
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I like the "steal" idea and can imagine it even being mentioned in the blind auditions (e.g. "if he's stupid enough to let you go in the battle rounds, I'll take you on my team" or similar...)

And I presume the "knockout" round will be pitching contestants from different teams against each other, otherwise it's the same as the battle rounds... this'll work OK if the public gets to decide who goes through.

Glad that the producers are clearly listening to the public, who obviously love the blind auditions, but don't seem to connect afterwards... the BBC should definitely follow their example I think...
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Old 13-08-2012, 13:21   #5
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Great, and for the lives, do ALL the contestants sing in the same live episodes week-to-week?

It's singuarly the one reason I couldn't connect to the contestants. If it hasn't been ammended, I'm not watching.
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Old 13-08-2012, 17:29   #6
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Great, and for the lives, do ALL the contestants sing in the same live episodes week-to-week?

It's singuarly the one reason I couldn't connect to the contestants. If it hasn't been ammended, I'm not watching.
there are too many contestants to sing in the same show. the show is already 2 hours without everyone singing. i think it is weird that people always feel the need to connect with the contestants, but get angry when they find out too much about them and accuse the show of fixing it because of the sob stories. it isnt a popularity contest, it's a singing show. who cares if you like their personality, how do they sing compared to the others? if you see the crop of pop stars today, personality clearly wasnt the first thing on the list when the label wanted to sign them
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Old 14-08-2012, 04:13   #7
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there are too many contestants to sing in the same show. the show is already 2 hours without everyone singing. i think it is weird that people always feel the need to connect with the contestants, but get angry when they find out too much about them and accuse the show of fixing it because of the sob stories. it isnt a popularity contest, it's a singing show. who cares if you like their personality, how do they sing compared to the others? if you see the crop of pop stars today, personality clearly wasnt the first thing on the list when the label wanted to sign them
They can piss about with the battle rounds as much as they want. That stage had it's flaws, granted, but post-battle rounds is where the viewer erosion began. Keeping up with 2 sets of 10 contestants, singing on alternate weeks, was simply ridiculous.

There were too many contestants, period. Whittle them down to a final line-up of 16 finalists, max. Then one out each week from there. Simple.

I can't recall ever seeing such a high profile show lose 50% of it's viewership of the course of about 3/4 episodes.
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Old 14-08-2012, 10:35   #8
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Keeping up with 2 sets of 10 contestants, singing on alternate weeks, was simply ridiculous.
this format has worked on every version of the show except the UK. in every version that has had more than one season so far this is the one thing that has not changed and viewers have not left in the masses like the UK version. i think it has more to do with the audience than the show itself because of this. the uk is so used to x-factor, whereas here in america, we didnt have x-factor and when we got it no one watched it. we just had american idle and a few other little shows that didnt last, but people really enjoyed the voice. the favorite in the us was the battles, while in the uk it was one of the most hated. i think de mol should have payed attention to what the viewers were previously exposed to and tweaked it from there.
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Old 14-08-2012, 16:01   #9
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this format has worked on every version of the show except the UK. in every version that has had more than one season so far this is the one thing that has not changed and viewers have not left in the masses like the UK version. i think it has more to do with the audience than the show itself because of this. the uk is so used to x-factor, whereas here in america, we didnt have x-factor and when we got it no one watched it. we just had american idle and a few other little shows that didnt last, but people really enjoyed the voice. the favorite in the us was the battles, while in the uk it was one of the most hated. i think de mol should have payed attention to what the viewers were previously exposed to and tweaked it from there.
We were the original Idol broadcast country. It's not that different to X Factor. I don't think you can blame X-Factor for the UK not liking the battle rounds.

You can probably blame the X-Factor having the UK used to highly polished production and event TV as opposed to the amateurish nature of the Voice.

The Battle Rounds with the UK contestants were cringeworthy, at times they were practically screaming contests. Who could power vocal over someone else. It was like a Bonnie Tyler orgy.

The rounds were also rushed but that was the whole programme. There was no connection with any of the contestants. It just passed everyone by.
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Old 14-08-2012, 18:37   #10
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We were the original Idol broadcast country. It's not that different to X Factor. I don't think you can blame X-Factor for the UK not liking the battle rounds.

You can probably blame the X-Factor having the UK used to highly polished production and event TV as opposed to the amateurish nature of the Voice.

The Battle Rounds with the UK contestants were cringeworthy, at times they were practically screaming contests. Who could power vocal over someone else. It was like a Bonnie Tyler orgy.

The rounds were also rushed but that was the whole programme. There was no connection with any of the contestants. It just passed everyone by.
BIB - I don't agree with this at all. I connected with some of the contestants right from the blind auditions and followed them all through the contest. It isn't necessary to have background stories to connect with an artist if you like their voice. I'm just interested in whether they are talented, I'm not bothered about their grannies or hard luck stories. The ones I thought would do well from the blind auditions got to the semis and the finals and have been busy since so I am interested to see what their albums are like when they are released.

I'm not the only one who "connected" with some of the contestants as some have gained a lot of fans because of The Voice and have still kept them.

As for "it just passed everyone by" - everyone? You know that for a fact do you ?
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I'm not the only one who "connected" with some of the contestants as some have gained a lot of fans because of The Voice and have still kept them.

As for "it just passed everyone by" - everyone? You know that for a fact do you ?
Perhaps a hardcore fan base did but the viewing figures and the massive decline showed people weren't attaching onto the acts.

It was too hard to follow them over such a short time period.

The complete lack of relative success by any of the acts shows it
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Perhaps a hardcore fan base did but the viewing figures and the massive decline showed people weren't attaching onto the acts.

It was too hard to follow them over such a short time period.

The complete lack of relative success by any of the acts shows it
I'm not sure how you judge a "lack of relative success". Relative to what? Several of the acts have been signed up to record labels, and are working on their albums and writing some of their own material. In the meantime they have been getting in some experience at gigs or festivals.

Considering The Voice only finished in June, it's a bit soon to expect them to have successful albums out - it takes months to produce an album if it's going to be any good. Out of the X-Factor 2011 finalists, as far as I know, only Marcus Collins has got an album out since X-Factor finished. None of the others, including Little Mix, have released an album yet. I would think the first albums from The Voice contestants will be out September/October time.
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Perhaps a hardcore fan base did but the viewing figures and the massive decline showed people weren't attaching onto the acts.

It was too hard to follow them over such a short time period.

The complete lack of relative success by any of the acts shows it
that is what the internet is for. we live in the age of technology so it isnt actually that difficult to see what people are up to. the use of technology is a large premise for the voice. that is why they have the v room. on the uk version it was just reggie reading twitter comments, but on the american one, the contestants had their phones/ipads/whatever else and there was a running twitter feed on the wall.
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Old 15-08-2012, 11:27   #14
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I definitely think the "steal" would be a great twist for the UK version. And it's because we're so used to the joke acts and controversy on The X Factor, the viewers didn't find The Voice interesting and I must admit, I love excellent singers but even I was finding a bit tedious towards the end.
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Old 15-08-2012, 23:32   #15
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The steal idea is great. UK could also do with
1) releasing the contestants music
2) sing-offs
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Old 16-08-2012, 01:54   #16
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I actually met Bo Bruce today and someone mentioned to her that they might be adding the steal element to the show - Bo thought it was an amazing idea! it's interesting to see what people who were actually on the show think too!
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Old 16-08-2012, 17:24   #17
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Is anyone not seeing the point here: This is a SINGING contest, not a game!

Stealing and strategy means it's even more about the judges and their wheeling and dealing and less about the bloody singers.

Let's have a show where people sing, we vote for them and the one with the least votes goes home!
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Is anyone not seeing the point here: This is a SINGING contest, not a game!

Stealing and strategy means it's even more about the judges and their wheeling and dealing and less about the bloody singers.

Let's have a show where people sing, we vote for them and the one with the least votes goes home!
Stealing only comes into play at the Battle stages and presumably if there are two top quality acts against each other - for instance Max Milner vs Bill Downs...

Instead of losing one - One judge could've stolen Bill to keep him in the competition.

I think its a way of keeping good acts in and enabling coaches with possibly weak groups (Jessie?) to beef up what they have

And RE your last point - we had that with Pop Idol and spawned 1 hugely successful act and 1 complete flop winner - which the show didn't seem to want to recover from and so the XF was born to fill the gap (well after Popstars the Rivals anyway).
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