[Muffintop]

I will get Mists Of Pandaria though to be honest i wish Bilzz would make use of the dead cities...People pay out for the new expansions and really should have good content for all the previous ones they have purchased..They need to sort their flying training out too..1 of mine is still going round on a flying snail..How much will the flying training cost at lvl 90 then ? I fear my poor goblin is going to become a vagrant.

[FanFromHolland]

http://www.youtube.com/user/PredatorGamingFTW

The new pvp gear!

But i wish Blizzard would use the old cities, make portals there too! And more war! I Want that war between H and A to come alive!~I really want to experience it, with attack on cities once in a while

[Howjo]

anybody played it at beta level yet ?

any good new features

[cat666]

Originally Posted by Muffintop

I will get Mists Of Pandaria though to be honest i wish Bilzz would make use of the dead cities...People pay out for the new expansions and really should have good content for all the previous ones they have purchased..They need to sort their flying training out too..1 of mine is still going round on a flying snail..How much will the flying training cost at lvl 90 then ? I fear my poor goblin is going to become a vagrant.

The issue with cities is that no-one actually has a choice. Vanilla was Orgrimmar/Stormwind, BC was Shattrath, WotLK was Dalaran and Cata was back to Org/SW. In all cases, you simply HAD to use those places as a base. At least Dalaran had portals to the old cities, our guild used to hang out in Undercity, however Cata forced us to use Orgrimmar as no other town had portals to the new zones, or the quests which tied into them. I hope the 2 towns in MoP have portals back to the main towns, ala WotLK.

As a side point what annoys me is that trade chat isonly available in cities. I casually play, so often am on the look out for PUG's, but standing around is so boring. Should I go off to farm herbs/ores though, I don't get any shouts. A toggle would be brilliant.

As for your flying costs issue. You make gold quicker in each expansion. Quests/dungeons/raids offer more etc. Getting max flying on one toon isn't hard. I'll earn enough cash through levelling a toon to pay for it's second level of flying usually. Only one of my toons has the super speed one though, although this will change in MoP as I'm retiring my main, for 2 others and doubt I will be able to live without the faster speeds.

[paulbrock]

Originally Posted by cat666

As a side point what annoys me is that trade chat isonly available in cities. I casually play, so often am on the look out for PUG's, but standing around is so boring. Should I go off to farm herbs/ores though, I don't get any shouts. A toggle would be brilliant.

There's an addon which lets you listen in (but not post) to trade outside of the cities.

http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/tradeforwarder

relies on others on your server using it, but most of the EU servers I've used have reasonable coverage, at least at busy times.

[cat666]

Originally Posted by paulbrock

There's an addon which lets you listen in (but not post) to trade outside of the cities.

http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/tradeforwarder

relies on others on your server using it, but most of the EU servers I've used have reasonable coverage, at least at busy times.

Will check it out. I tried one previously, but it didn't have coverage on my realm. I'm on a very low population realm, mostly Alliance (I play Horde) and to top it off around the Firelands patch all the big name Horde guilds (from a server POV) up sticks and left due to there being no new players coming through. Even before that Alliance guilds were dominating WoWProgress, and now we have very few challenging from the Horde side.

I'd server transfer, but I have a few friends there, don't really want to be part of a massive guild, and can't afford the transfer fees.

[Studmuffin]

Bugger! I've paid for the deluxe digital thing just for the pet. I'll never learn

[gamehound294]

wwwooooohhhhh, that is really expensive... It must be worth my money, or my mom's money.

[cat666]

Originally Posted by gamehound294

wwwooooohhhhh, that is really expensive... It must be worth my money, or my mom's money.

Buy the normal retail edition if you don't care about playing when it goes live. You can then upgrade to the Digital Deluxe edition for £10. Currently a £5 saving.

[brb]

Originally Posted by Jay-Cee

Also £35 for just level 85-90 is quite high

well, it's not just 85-90, really :P New dungeons, raids, zones, dailies (hundreds to do since they've changed the way fraction XP works) and most importantly... farmville! in wow! woo

[brb]

Ahh, it's trailer day!

[Inspiration]

Trailer is.. meh. Having been a "veteran" of WoW since patch 1.10'ish I can't say MoP is ticking any boxes for me and the trailer did nothing to change that really. It's too fluffy. I think I liked WoW when it was a world of evil and bad things.. with a bad enemy to fight at the end. MoP just seems so far from that. Maybe i'm getting old and the WoW player base is young. I dunno. But I'm struggling to feel any motivation to play it.

[cat666]

Originally Posted by Inspiration

Trailer is.. meh. Having been a "veteran" of WoW since patch 1.10'ish I can't say MoP is ticking any boxes for me and the trailer did nothing to change that really. It's too fluffy. I think I liked WoW when it was a world of evil and bad things.. with a bad enemy to fight at the end. MoP just seems so far from that. Maybe i'm getting old and the WoW player base is young. I dunno. But I'm struggling to feel any motivation to play it.

Most of the trailers did nothing for me, so I'm a bit meh anyway. Infact the only cutscene which was awe inspiring was the Fall of the Lich King. that was epic.

Pandaria is going to be good because it is new. I am so looking forward to a month of new specs/talents and then opening up a new continent, quests, dungeons, raids etc. It will be a breath of fresh air.

[doesyourheadin]

Originally Posted by Inspiration

Trailer is.. meh. Having been a "veteran" of WoW since patch 1.10'ish I can't say MoP is ticking any boxes for me and the trailer did nothing to change that really. It's too fluffy. I think I liked WoW when it was a world of evil and bad things.. with a bad enemy to fight at the end. MoP just seems so far from that. Maybe i'm getting old and the WoW player base is young. I dunno. But I'm struggling to feel any motivation to play it.

I agree with the fluffy comment.

I love WTLK, it was full of nasties, and the odd pop of of the Litch King really added something to it.

Not looking forward to the Kung fu panda pack, but anything must be an improvement on Cata.

[paulbrock]

Trailer is available here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvYXo...layer_embedded

[paulbrock]

agree with Inspiration. A bit 'meh'. The pandas look out of place, and the trailer doesn't make want to play one. Looks like they belong in a different game.

[Howjo]

feel the same, was enjoying it till the Pandas appeared then became a bit of a joke

still gonna play it when it comes out , but wont roll a Panda for a while

[brb]

Originally Posted by Inspiration

Trailer is.. meh. Having been a "veteran" of WoW since patch 1.10'ish I can't say MoP is ticking any boxes for me and the trailer did nothing to change that really. It's too fluffy. I think I liked WoW when it was a world of evil and bad things.. with a bad enemy to fight at the end. MoP just seems so far from that. Maybe i'm getting old and the WoW player base is young. I dunno. But I'm struggling to feel any motivation to play it.

Do you have beta access by any chance? Although I'm not a veteran player (I started playing a few weeks or so before WOTLK launched), I'm finding MoP to be a breath of fresh air after Cataclysm.

Like a lot of people, when I first started playing WoW I wanted to explore. Nostalgia reminds me how much fun I had exploring the badlands for the first time on my low level warlock with a group of 4 other players. When Cata launched, I didn't have that but it wasn't because I didn't enjoy the game, it was because the sense of adventure wasn't there anymore. On the beta, I have to say that this sense of adventure is back for me. I really wanted to explore every part of Pandaria and the zones are genuinely amazing.

[FanFromHolland]

Originally Posted by cat666

Buy the normal retail edition if you don't care about playing when it goes live. You can then upgrade to the Digital Deluxe edition for £10. Currently a £5 saving.

How does that work?

[RedSnapper]

Kung Fu Panda.

Blizzard suffering a drout in the ideas department by the looks.

[cat666]

Originally Posted by FanFromHolland

How does that work?

I am guessing you buy it from Battle Net and it upgrades your account.

Anyways you can now preorder the retail box from Amazon for £29. Suits me fine as I won't be playing until evening of release, by which time the postie will have been.

[cat666]

So 5.0 hit today and now WoW crashes with or without addons every time I loot. Appears I am not the only one suffering this issue, which begs the question how it passed from the PTR to live without someone catching it. I'm sure it will be fixed soon.

[moonburn]

Originally Posted by cat666

So 5.0 hit today and now WoW crashes with or without addons every time I loot. Appears I am not the only one suffering this issue, which begs the question how it passed from the PTR to live without someone catching it. I'm sure it will be fixed soon.

same.
I never use any addons (never have) and its been really bad tonight for crashing.One of them even sent the PC lala..

SP is so overpowered at the moment theres such a nerf coming.shes level 81 and the Hyjal mobs shes one shotting them at the moment with a 3 ShadowOrb DP

inscription has had a major kickup the butt now able to make Staffs.Key to the planes I made for the priest...

[cat666]

Originally Posted by moonburn

same.
I never use any addons (never have) and its been really bad tonight for crashing.One of them even sent the PC lala..

SP is so overpowered at the moment theres such a nerf coming.shes level 81 and the Hyjal mobs shes one shotting them at the moment with a 3 ShadowOrb DP

inscription has had a major kickup the butt now able to make Staffs.Key to the planes I made for the priest...

Everything seems overpowered as you are really playing old content with new spells. Once Mists hits and your in current content I doubt it will be the same. Certainly my destro lock which I did ICC with got a massive DPS boost when 4.0 hit, but when it came down to Cata content, destro locks sucked.

Sadly I didn't really get to play around with much, I logged all my characters in for the shared cheevos/mounts then sorted the lock out so I could continue to try for the Raven Lord. After 4 crashes I finally got to him and didn't get the mount so I just didn't bother to log back in. Would have loved to make a few glyphs!

[FanFromHolland]

Fall of Theramore dropped today, what a let down