[Tall Paul]

Have to say that I cared more for Aaron being the winner than Luke a based on these reasons that I am going to list. He was funnier than Luke a IMHO, better at tasks, wasn't a chosen type like Luke a so got more support, was more understated than Luke a and had a very interesting love storyline with Faye which was another one of my faves last year. Am no Luke a basher but I do think he was a bit over rated especially on BBBOTS wheras Aaron was under rated so that appeals to me more.

[Videostar]

Aaron was a far better winner and indeed person than Luke A.

Aaron won on his own merits instead of needing a lifestory to get him there.

[Tall Paul]

Exactly and Aaron had a higher winning percentage too.

[farscape]

I honestly don't think Luke A's win had much to do with his backstory. It was one facet but he had plenty others.

When he won I felt that he hadn't many inhouse storylines but now that I think about it he did have more than a few. His endearing friendship with Adam, his rivalry with Luke S, what he went through when Becky and Conor tried to turn his BMI comment into the crime of the century. I think the fact that Luke A was so chilled and laidback we overlook he was a fairly important character this series.

Aaron was different in the sense that he commanded attention even when he wasn't really doing anything whether positive or negative attention, whether it was his dad-like dancing, his DR witticisms he had it. Even in the house he got the sole blame for the toy task revolt, the stranded task walkout and even the Halloween noms even though there were multiple people involved in all - part of that was Jay's stirring but I think the HMs couldn't help it. Hell he even somehow was lumped in with the blame of bananagate despite the fact he nothing to do with it being Harry's mate.

Also imagine Luke A's BMI comment debacle happening every week, that's what Aaron went through. Even when it looked like Aaron was going to have an easy week BB wouldn't allow it. It almost felt like they had to contrive something to cause him drama.

[hulakula]

I think Luke A was a very deserving winner, BB13 is over now you should stop being bitter that your favorite didn't win.

[hulakula]

Originally Posted by farscape

I honestly don't think Luke A's win had much to do with his backstory. It was one facet but he had plenty others.

When he won I felt that he hadn't many inhouse storylines but now that I think about it he did have more than a few. His endearing friendship with Adam, his rivalry with Luke S, what he went through when Becky and Conor tried to turn his BMI comment into the crime of the century. I think the fact that Luke A was so chilled and laidback we overlook he was a fairly important character this series.
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Good post,

[Tall Paul]

Originally Posted by hulakula

I think Luke A was a very deserving winner, BB is over now don't be so bitter because your favorite didn't win.

Not bitter at all, just stating the obvious and personally I won't be watching Luke a's winning doccumentary. Overall this series just gone wasn't a patch on bb12 where people had a lot more fun in.

[hulakula]

Originally Posted by Tall Paul

Not bitter at all, just stating the obvious and personally I won't be watching Luke a's winning doccumentary. Overall this series just gone wasn't a patch on bb12 where people had a lot more fun in.

It's not obvious it's just your opinion and I apologise for suggesting that you were bitter . I didn't watch last series but I've noticed that a lot of people rate BB13 above last years. Personally I thought this one of the best series ever and was a deserving winner. Luke didn't win because of his backstory, this is just a lazy excuse used by people who just want to undermine his success and are bitter that he won.

He was involved in plenty of storylines this year and as a core 'outsider', was an integral part of the series. If we use voting percentages and online polls as an indicator of popularity, then Luke's seemed to increase after his run in with Becky and further increased after the F&F nominations, therefore blaming his win on his backstory is a weak attempt to undermine his popularity.

[Tall Paul]

Well Aarons win was watched by more people so ratings are more important than perception. All of this means that last year bb12 made more of a profit wheras bb13 has IMO made a loss.

[Bananafish]

Originally Posted by hulakula

It's not obvious it's just your opinion and I apologise for suggesting that you were bitter . I didn't watch last series but I've noticed that a lot of people rate BB13 above last years. Personally I thought this one of the best series ever and was a deserving winner. Luke didn't win because of his backstory, this is just a lazy excuse used by people who just want to undermine his success and are bitter that he won.

He was involved in plenty of storylines this year and as a core 'outsider', was an integral part of the series. If we use voting percentages and online polls as an indicator of popularity, then Luke's seemed to increase after his run in with Becky and further increased after the F&F nominations, therefore blaming his win on his backstory is a weak attempt to undermine his popularity.

So Luke A won for being bitchy and people feeling sorry for him at the same time?

Sounds about right.

[Videostar]

Aaron was funny, had more storylines within the show than anyone else, everything major that happened he was at the center of it all, his DR moments were fantastic and he stood up to alot of crap that was thrown his way, both in and out of the house.

[Tall Paul]

Originally Posted by Videostar

Aaron was funny, had more storylines within the show than anyone else, everything major that happened he was at the center of it all, his DR moments were fantastic and he stood up to alot of crap that was thrown his way, both in and out of the house.

Agree 110% mate on ìt.

[Aneechik]

Luke A is a fairly generic default winner. He didn't really do anything of note. Aaron was the star of the show and unlike most stars of the show, managed to get to the final and was rewarded for it.

[xtramo]

For a minute i thought you were on about Aaron Lowe!

Both Arron from last year and Luke A from this year are in essence the same thing - they are just used in the reaction against the "chavs" , they themselves are but bores plain and simple.

[redtiger786]

Originally Posted by Tall Paul

Have to say that I cared more for Aaron being the winner than Luke a based on these reasons that I am going to list. He was funnier than Luke a IMHO, better at tasks, wasn't a chosen type like Luke a so got more support, was more understated than Luke a and had a very interesting love storyline with Faye which was another one of my faves last year. Am no Luke a basher but I do think he was a bit over rated especially on BBBOTS wheras Aaron was under rated so that appeals to me more.

I agree with you. Aaron had a lot more charisma than Luke A. I'm just glad that the cretin Conman didn't win this year!

[teresagreen]

Originally Posted by hulakula

I think Luke A was a very deserving winner, BB13 is over now you should stop being bitter that your favorite didn't win.

I agree entirely. It's over and done with and not worth anyone getting bitter over.

[Noisy Oyster]

Originally Posted by Tall Paul

Have to say that I cared more for Aaron being the winner than Luke a based on these reasons that I am going to list. He was funnier than Luke a IMHO, better at tasks, wasn't a chosen type like Luke a so got more support, was more understated than Luke a and had a very interesting love storyline with Faye which was another one of my faves last year. Am no Luke a basher but I do think he was a bit over rated especially on BBBOTS wheras Aaron was under rated so that appeals to me more.

So you're not saying you don't like the fact that Luke A won, more that you preferred Aaron and thought he had to work harder to get his win, is that right? If that's what you're saying I think you're probably right because Aaron had to fight his way through almost single-handed whereas Luke A did have the support of Adam and Deana.

If you didn't want Luke to win, out of interest who did you think deserved it and why?

[teresagreen]

Originally Posted by Tall Paul

Well Aarons win was watched by more people so ratings are more important than perception. All of this means that last year bb12 made more of a profit wheras bb13 has IMO made a loss.

BB is about how people relate to others. If Aaron from last year had been in this years' BB would he have won? We don't know. What about if Luke A had been in last year or Brian Dowling had been in BB5. I wanted both Aaron and Luke A to win, but you can't compare one BB with another becaue all the HMs are different. So there.

[Janet_Hadfield]

I couldn't stand Aaron, and was glad that Luke A won,

[Tall Paul]

Did not vote for anyone to win this year to be fair as none of them had the spark that Mr Allard-Morgan had last year.

[Pollyusa]

I liked Aaron because he made me laugh. I liked Adam this year....he also made me laugh.

[Rose_in_France]

To win Big Brother you seem to need one or all of these qualities:
Be gay
Be in the process of a sex change
Be extremely thick (or pretend to be, like Brian Belo)
Be doing it for some worthy cause
Have an affliction/disability

There have been some great exceptions like Josie, Aaron, Kate (she was a great housemate, remember her? They had it tough that year and she was a real trooper).

[Pollyusa]

Originally Posted by farscape

Aaron was different in the sense that he commanded attention even when he wasn't really doing anything whether positive or negative attention, whether it was his dad-like dancing, his DR witticisms he had it. Even in the house he got the sole blame for the toy task revolt, the stranded task walkout and even the Halloween noms even though there were multiple people involved in all - part of that was Jay's stirring but I think the HMs couldn't help it. Hell he even somehow was lumped in with the blame of bananagate despite the fact he nothing to do with it being Harry's mate.

Also imagine Luke A's BMI comment debacle happening every week, that's what Aaron went through. Even when it looked like Aaron was going to have an easy week BB wouldn't allow it. It almost felt like they had to contrive something to cause him drama.

Good post

[Its-Gillian]

Aaron was the better winner by a mile! I wanted him to win whereas last series i wanted Adam to win. Was happy for Luke A though!

[yellowlabbie]

I didn't like Aaron at all, but he was a more worthy winner than Luke A. Aaron, like Deana, was the central character in BB, Luke A was just an extra. What did he do for 10 weeks, smoke and bitch a bit.