[cazzz]

Originally Posted by IvanIV

What's wrong with the 'Scientology witch' Kirstie Alley

she cant have children, I think tom will go for his usual type, which is getting younger each time.

[Geneve]

I feel bad for Suri watching a video of tom picking her up from Katies and shes just pounced on by cameras.. no wonder she doesn't walk!

[Geneve]

Looks like Mama Bear is trying to reprogram Suri

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...ef=mostpopular

Im glad Katie is taking this stance and hopefully its not too late for her child.

[IvanIV]

Originally Posted by Geneve

Looks like Mama Bear is trying to reprogram Suri

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...ef=mostpopular

Im glad Katie is taking this stance and hopefully its not too late for her child.

I can totally see Tom Cruise as one of those crazy mothers at Little Miss child beauty pageants shouting at Suri to work it more One can argue if a catholic school means a normal childhood, but if that's what it takes to isolate her from the influences of the Xenu bunch then be it.

[Sadeyed]

Originally Posted by fitnessqueen

I'm reading "One Shot" at the moment and the last person I have in my head when picturing Jack Reacher is Tom Cruise! I see him looking a bit like Nick Nolte.

For me he has always been a young Clint Eastwood, about as far from Cruise as you could get!

[nw0307]

Originally Posted by Geneve

Looks like Mama Bear is trying to reprogram Suri

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...ef=mostpopular

Im glad Katie is taking this stance and hopefully its not too late for her child.

not attempting to be mean but I think Suri is starting to resemble a young Sophie Webster from Corrie judging by that pic

[The Dove]

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...ntology-352161

The Hollywood reporter has a good piece on how Tom Cruise wouldn't be allowed to have contact with Suri if he were just an ordinary Scientologist and not the cult's celebrity poster boy.

Here's an interesting quote from Sam Domingo.

“Katie would have been excommunicated normally, and behind the scenes she probably already is,” says Domingo. “Internally, the wheels are in motion to discredit Katie. We have moles that are pretending to be good Scientologists who report back to us on the outside. I’ve seen internal memos about Katie.”

Sam's not one to fabricate stories and it's true there are moles in Scientology who leak information.

[zx50]

It really wouldn't surprise me if The Church of Scientology are planning to discredit Katie as we speak. Tom Cruise has went WAY down in my estimation if this is true.

[zx50]

Originally Posted by The Dove

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...ntology-352161

The Hollywood reporter has a good piece on how Tom Cruise wouldn't be allowed to have contact with Suri if he were just an ordinary Scientologist and not the cult's celebrity poster boy.

Here's an interesting quote from Sam Domingo.



Sam's not one to fabricate stories and it's true there are moles in Scientology who leak information.

I'm getting the feeling that Cruise is nowhere near as nice as he makes himself out to be. That organisation appears to have such double standards.

[Fatsia]

Originally Posted by The Dove

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...ntology-352161

The Hollywood reporter has a good piece on how Tom Cruise wouldn't be allowed to have contact with Suri if he were just an ordinary Scientologist and not the cult's celebrity poster boy.

Here's an interesting quote from Sam Domingo.



Sam's not one to fabricate stories and it's true there are moles in Scientology who leak information.

So what is their justification behind this do you think? Is he allowed to mix with an 'SP' (Suppressive Person - ie Katie, Suri) simply because he's their poster-boy? Or is it because he's such a super-strong-$cientologist (OT8 or some such, can rescue people from car accidents using just his thoughts whilst driving past etc etc) that obviously one or two SPs will not affect him in any way?

I do get that cults like these will always bend the rules to suit themselves, but with so many 'average joe' $cientologists who have had to cut themselves off from loved ones deemed SPs, how is the cult justifying it to them?

[IvanIV]

If he's such a super BS strong $cientologist I wonder why he doesn't do something about that Napoleon complex of his. Vindictive little man.

[lexi22]

Originally Posted by The Dove

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...ntology-352161

The Hollywood reporter has a good piece on how Tom Cruise wouldn't be allowed to have contact with Suri if he were just an ordinary Scientologist and not the cult's celebrity poster boy.

Here's an interesting quote from Sam Domingo.

Sam's not one to fabricate stories and it's true there are moles in Scientology who leak information.

Re that article, how much of a cocoon do you have to be living in to not be aware that Cruise is having regular contact with Suri? No one is that cocooned surely? In which case, it's a coup for those who are speaking out, since this is contrary to everything this cult holds as 'sacred' and shows their 'suppressive person' bullshit up for the bullshit it is.

Even if they are dirt-gathering on Katie, I also can't see how anything they might have could make even the tiniest dent out here in the real world. Those days are long gone.

I really can't see how the CoS can operate anymore in the way they have been. Too much is known about them.

[The Dove]

Give it six months and I'd guess the anti-Katie stuff will start appearing.

Cruise is allowed to see his daughter because refusing to do so would be a PR disaster.

As for the cocoon Scientologists live in, well everything Sea Org members read or watch is monitored but public members are under orders never to read any critical stories in newspapers or websites.

The clever part is that if a Scientologist does read some 'entheta', they have to confess and undergo sec checking - which they have to pay for.

[zx50]

Originally Posted by The Dove

Give it six months and I'd guess the anti-Katie stuff will start appearing.

Cruise is allowed to see his daughter because refusing to do so would be a PR disaster.

As for the cocoon Scientologists live in, well everything Sea Org members read or watch is monitored but public members are under orders never to read any critical stories in newspapers or websites.

The clever part is that if a Scientologist does read some 'entheta', they have to confess and undergo sec checking - which they have to pay for.

So that's how they mostly make their money.

[IvanIV]

Originally Posted by zx50

So that's how they mostly make their money.

They pay for their sins, literally.

[tally]

Originally Posted by IvanIV

If he's such a super BS strong $cientologist I wonder why he doesn't do something about that Napoleon complex of his. Vindictive little man.

Great description. Cruise has small man syndrome, he thinks he's god, as long as he's donating squillions to the cult, he'll be top of the dung heap that is Scientology and his bromance with David Miscavige will mean he gets special treatment. Turd!


I dont like Tom Cruise, if you haven't realised.

[The Dove]

Originally Posted by IvanIV

They pay for their sins, literally.

You pay for everything in the cult once you've finished your free stress test. Pay for books, pay for courses and pay for auditing. If you've go no money then they'll suggest you become a staff member (different to being in the Sea Org) but if you try to leave, they'll threaten you with a freeloaders debt for thousands of pounds. That's before the pressure to simply give money for nothing in return.

Back on topic, there's more revelations about Cruise from a former cult member.

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runnin...tom_cruise.php

[conchie]

Originally Posted by The Dove

Back on topic, there's more revelations about Cruise from a former cult member.

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runnin...tom_cruise.php

Thats an interesting article and if anything shows up Cruise to be an extraordinarly weak man, easily moulded into whatever the sinister ministers want him to be.

What kind of person cannot just get on with making their own decisions, living their own life without having to emmerse themseves in a controlling devious organisation such as this.

It is the classic preying on the weak willed, and more importantly the rich weak willed.

[conchie]

Originally Posted by zx50

It really wouldn't surprise me if The Church of Scientology are planning to discredit Katie as we speak. Tom Cruise has went WAY down in my estimation if this is true.

The thing is they can do what they want with their efforts to discredit Katie, it will all be for nothing.

EVERYONE will know its just Scientology bullshit and if anything it will only bring MORE attention and negative PR for them.

I am baffled though why this organisation is not being investigated by any legal authorities, given the amount of stories of people who have "disappeared" or are being held against their will, or more importantly families who are forbidden to see their children etc. Surely to goodness thats against the law. I can't phathom how its allowed to go on.

[Fatsia]

Originally Posted by conchie

I am baffled though why this organisation is not being investigated by any legal authorities, given the amount of stories of people who have "disappeared" or are being held against their will, or more importantly families who are forbidden to see their children etc. Surely to goodness thats against the law. I can't phathom how its allowed to go on.

I completely agree! There are SO many stories of false imprisonment, abuse, child labour and so on... but I'm led to believe that the cult has lots of friends in high places - some who are also members of the cult, others who presumably are 'financially persuaded' to ignore certain stories. It's a very well-organised system, arranged to serve those at the top.

Also the poor souls who do manage to escape the cult and try to get their stories out there are relentlessly attacked by the cult. Anything they may have admitted during auditing is used against them. Sometimes cult members camp outside their houses to harass and intimidate them. They have been known to go through their bins. Hubbard decreed that if the cult is attacked on any front, they do NOT defend, they attack the attacker. You can see why it might be hard to persuade the authorities to investigate anything when you're faced with the might and resources of the cult.

[Geneve]

They are divorced officially!
http://uk.eonline.com/news/339800/to...=rss_movienews

[zx50]

Originally Posted by Geneve

They are divorced officially!
http://uk.eonline.com/news/339800/to...=rss_movienews

Right. Give it about 6 months before a certain 'church' starts trying to blacken Katie's name/character.