[Darren Lethem]

Originally Posted by swingaleg

Reserve sounds a good idea

Another comp I'm in elsewhere has a minimum selections rule. So, eg, if there are 30 weeks in the comp you might have a rule whereby people have to post at least 25 selections in order to count for the final table

That way the odd non runner, or computer breakdown or being away on holiday can be fitted in as part of your leeway of 5 weeks of not having to post a selection

We sort of do that with the "miss 3 races and you're out" rule but a NR could count as one of those perhaps

Originally Posted by cantos

I have benefited from the random selection in the past, but i think a non runner should be just that unless you substitute before the race.

Do you mean your score stays as is ?

[cantos]

Originally Posted by Darren Lethem

We sort of do that with the "miss 3 races and you're out" rule but a NR could count as one of those perhaps



Do you mean your score stays as is ?

Actually Darren thinking about it more, if you do a placepot and have a non runner it goes on the favourite, why not adopt the same rule.
However i do not think the change should not come in until the winter comp.

[swingaleg]

I think we might have had non-runners going on favourites a few years back but the consensus was that it was a bit unfair because favourites kept winning............

the 'highest number' was introduced as a random method........

Maybe in retrospect we might be better off going back to 'favourites' because although people might still get a random winner by virtue of having a non runner at least it'll probably only be 2/1 and not 25/1............so it won't skew the competition as much

[Chris MacL]

Ach, knew I had forgotten to do something, only remembered when nowhere near a PC! Would not have picked up any points anyway, back next week with a needed winner hopefully.

[Darren Lethem]

Originally Posted by cantos

Actually Darren thinking about it more, if you do a placepot and have a non runner it goes on the favourite, why not adopt the same rule.
However i do not think the change should not come in until the winter comp.

It will be from Winter yeah mate, this comp will stay unaltered until the end

[DimSum]

All my effort for picking the winner was in vain.I don't like this non runner rule at all.Many big price winners do come from bottom weights,and scorer was lucky this time.We need to change this rule.......quick.

[cantos]

How about at the start of the next comp we each stipulate how we wish a non runner be treated.

Eg, Fav, Top Weight, treated as no runner with no point movement. and others.I think we should however not select a numbered horse as replacement.

[Darren Lethem]

I will go with what the majority think is fair. The no runner no points is a good one BUT does thàt also give an advantage as you arent losing anything either

[scorer]

I'll go with the majority but I will say this had Mr Chairman and a few others got the same luck as me this week and I didn't get the luck would they still be on here wanting a rule change?


I can't be online 24/7 to change a selection because of a non-runner.

[Hibs-kid-2007]

I kind of feel a bit sorry for scorer, he may have benefitted from it but regardless if he had time or was online to change it those were/are the rules. I'm sure if he actually had time he'd have probably changed his selection. Well done anyway scorer, anyone could benefit one week.

Personally if I know i'm not going to be online after I post I'll sometimes say to DL a number of horse or pick a 2nd selection should the first be a non runner as I also don't have time to post again sometimes. For the winter comp i'd be happy to go back to the favourite. Or everyone post 2 selections, a first choice and a second choice should first be a non-runner and if both are non-runners then it just counts as a non-runner. No points lost or gained.

My English is terrible as i've got a stinking hangover but hope it makes sense.....

[Darren Lethem]

Originally Posted by scorer

I'll go with the majority but I will say this had Mr Chairman and a few others got the same luck as me this week and I didn't get the luck would they still be on here wanting a rule change?


I can't be online 24/7 to change a selection because of a non-runner.

I think you should read my post about this again scorer because I feel some of your comments are a tad harsh. I did say that those are the rules and won't change until next season AND I also stated I would go with majority decision. If that is no change then so be it. I also said it sounds like sour grapes.

Be fair mate you could win this through fortune and not skill. All we want to do is make it the fairest way possible for all.

[Terrence Chant]

Just caught up on the comments and I agree that from next season we should do a reserve selection in the case of a non-runner. Seems the most sensible and fair way forward

[tso]

I said it should go on SP favourite..

Thats my ruling for Yorks Comp coming up anyway

[Darren Lethem]

I will message you all with a few suggestions as go with whichever one gets most votes. One option will be - no change

[Realale]

Oops, it's all my fault, it was my rule originally - sorry guys!

Agreed it needs changing after this comp, will wait for your options Mr Chairman.

[Darren Lethem]

This weekend

3.40 York
Betfred Ebor Heritage Handicap 1m 6f
(3yo+, 1m 6f )
Going: Good to Firm

[Terrence Chant]

How many runners?

[Darren Lethem]

Originally Posted by Terrence Chant

How many runners?

well 67 at the moment so i have a feeling that may change

Mind you Realale could pick 66 of them and still end up with nowt

[Darren Lethem]

13 of you have replied so far to my PMs. 9 to do so

[Terrence Chant]

Originally Posted by Darren Lethem

13 of you have replied so far to my PMs. 9 to do so

Can't we just consider them non-runners?

[Realale]

Originally Posted by Darren Lethem

well 67 at the moment so i have a feeling that may change

Mind you Realale could pick 66 of them and still end up with nowt

Can't argue unfortunately

[Darren Lethem]

This Saturdays comp, here we are chaps - 22 runners so if you dont mind i will post the link to the card as with the new SL site, to copy and paste this will take a long time

http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/r...itage-handicap

[Darren Lethem]

York 3.40

Betfred Ebor (Heritage Handicap) 1m 6f
(3yo+, 1m 6f, Class 2, 22 runners)
Winner£140,062 2nd£41,940 3rd£20,970 4th£10,485 5th£5,242 6th£2,632
Going: Good
Surface: Turf


1(13) 24-3137 Steps To Freedom (IRE) 16 6 9-10 t Mrs J Harrington D E Egan (5) 109
2(14) 1-10611 Camborne 63 4 9-7 p J H M Gosden William Buick 106
3(6) 38-6584 Bob Le Beau (IRE) 13 5 9-5 b Mrs J Harrington
E J McNamara (3) 104
4(22) 2117-64 Sense Of Purpose (IRE) 47 5 9-4 t1 D K Weld
L F Roche (5) 103
5(16) 110/42-3 Willing Foe (USA) 34 5 9-2 Saeed bin Suroor
L Dettori 101
6(17) 97-3129 Crackentorp 42 7 9-2 T D Easterby D Allan 101
7(15) 2-63947 Alkimos (IRE) 42 4 9-1 p1 Saeed bin Suroor S De Sousa 100
8(7) 21-8215 Area Fifty One 42 4 9-1 R A Fahey K Fallon 100
9(19) 77762-3 Icon Dream (IRE) 56 5 9-1 J S Goldie G Lee 100
10(21) 242123 Hammerfest 23 5 9-0 J E Hammond Jim Crowley 99
11(11) 5236/54 Dreamspeed (IRE) 49 5 9-0 A M Balding
J Fortune 99
12(20) 050-204 Harlestone Times (IRE) 21 5 9-0 J L Dunlop T E Durcan 99
13(2) 38-3123 Royal Diamond (IRE) 63 6 9-0 T Carmody N G McCullagh 99
14(3) 303081 Hurricane Higgins (IRE) (ex4)24 4 9-0 M Johnston J Fanning 95
15(12) 6-45694 Blue Bajan (IRE) 42 10 8-13 D O'Meara D Tudhope 98
16(4) 56-3111 Number Theory 49 4 8-12 J R Holt R Kennemore 97
17(10) 8254-07 Tominator 84 5 8-12 R Hollinshead G Gibbons 97
18(18) 7-97178 Rock A Doodle Doo (IRE) 14 5 8-12 b1 W Jarvis J P Spencer 97
19(8) 014-081 Motivado (ex4)21 4 8-12 Sir Mark Prescott L Morris 93
20(9) 9-05039 Harrison's Cave 57 4 8-11 A P O'Brien C O'Donoghue 96
21(1) 3123-21 Qahriman 71 4 8-11 L M Cumani Reserve
96
22(5) 32-2322 A Boy Named Suzi 21 4 8-10 J M P Eustace
Reserve (3) 95

Forecast

Motivado (7/2), Camborne (8/1), Hammerfest (8/1), Qahriman (8/1), Number Theory (10/1), Willing Foe (12/1), Harrison's Cave (14/1), Crackentorp (16/1), Hurricane Higgins (16/1), Tominator (16/1), Area Fifty One (20/1), Icon Dream (20/1), Sense Of Purpose (20/1), Steps To Freedom (20/1), A Boy Named Suzi (25/1), Alkimos (25/1), Blue Bajan (25/1), Bob Le Beau (25/1), Dreamspeed (25/1), Harlestone Times (25/1), Rock A Doodle Doo (25/1), Royal Diamond (25/1)


PLEASE NOTE TWO RESERVES SO CHECK IF THEY ARE RUNNING BEFORE SELECTING

[Realale]

Sense Of Purpose to win please

[Terrence Chant]

Gotta go for Hurricane Higgins....EW please