[Everything Goes]

Orange have confirmed that extra charges will apply to punters who want to use 4G. Including those who want to use the iPhone 5 on 4G.

"When 4G launches a compatible plan on EE is required." says Orange. "Charges may apply and you’ll have to agree to a new minimum term on EE".

http://www.reghardware.com/2012/09/1...iffs_compared/

[technoflare]

charges MAY apply. Nothing confirmed yet. Still a wait and see game....hope they get it sorted soon, want to renew with a SIII LTE then see what's on offer

[daleski75]

Way too early to tell really and EE don't want to price themselves too high or no one will go to them.

[WelshBluebird]

Will be interesting to see what they do with data. Orange have tended to be pretty poor for large data users recently, but T-Mobile have been pretty good.
Plus it would be commercial suicide to have an LTE plan but have a 1 or 2GB data cap (considering you'd be able to blast through 5GB in less than an hour if you really wanted to), not to mention how stupid it would be to market an LTE network based on faster speeds and the ability to do things like stream TV, yet limit the usage of those things to next to nothing per month.

[daleski75]

I think there will be a pretty high cap of between to 5gb to 10gb depending on tariff but I am hoping they will also offer unlimited 3G as a sweetener if you get near your allowance on 4G.

People will use 4G for hell of a lot more and I do think that tethering should not be allowed either.

[psionic]

Originally Posted by daleski75

I think there will be a pretty high cap of between to 5gb to 10gb depending on tariff but I am hoping they will also offer unlimited 3G as a sweetener if you get near your allowance on 4G.

People will use 4G for hell of a lot more and I do think that tethering should not be allowed either.

If tethering wasn't allowed, hardly anyone would even consider a 4G tariff IMHO. They'd be shooting themselves in the foot.

[daleski75]

Originally Posted by psionic

If tethering wasn't allowed, hardly anyone would even consider a 4G tariff IMHO. They'd be shooting themselves in the foot.

Tethering would just be used to people wanting to use it as a broadband replacement and what use is tethering with a potential data cap anyway?

I firmly believe there is no replacement for a fixed line broadband service no matter how good 4G is.

[psionic]

Originally Posted by daleski75

Tethering would just be used to people wanting to use it as a broadband replacement and what use is tethering with a potential data cap anyway?

I firmly believe there is no replacement for a fixed line broadband service no matter how good 4G is.

Tethering is not just used by people wanting a broadband replacement for their home or office (eg. commuting or different workplaces you visit infrequently). It's most useful when you wan't to hook up a laptop or WiFi only device when you're away from home. Having a data cap, is all the more reason to allow tethering - leave it up to the user.

I tether almost every day. But when I'm home i'm on my standard broadband.

[gmart]

Originally Posted by daleski75

I firmly believe there is no replacement for a fixed line broadband service no matter how good 4G is.

I live in SE London just across the river from Canary Wharf...the phone lines installed when they built the houses are poor and the best connection I can get on a fixed line is 1.4Mbps (after many phone calls and an engineer visit). Even things like BBC iPlayer struggle to stream without constantly stopping to buffer.

I get 4 times that speed on my 3G phone. The nearest ADSL exchange isn't being upgraded to fiber-optics by BT until December 2013.

So the prospect of tethering on a 4G phone with a 20MBps+ download is actually quite a good one for me. Not everyone has access to high speed fixed broadband. Really impatient to find out what EE's pricing and caps will be (but no tethering = no deal).

[DevonBloke]

Allowances for phones will probably still be capped fairly low.
It's the dongle, MiFi, router plans I'm interested in.
It will be interesting to see what they do with these. LTE is what people living in rural areas have been waiting for. The networks have been told they must give rural areas a higher priority than before. My phone line is 7.4Km long and I get 1.3Mbps on ADSL2+. No mobile voice coverage indoors but in a window I can get 1-2 bars 3G (MBNL/EE) at about 1-2Mbps.
2G though is 2-3 bars and since this is from a fairly uncontended rural cell about 2 miles away, I reckon LTE over the same frequency should get me anything from 5 - 15Mbps!
If they can do a plan with 20-50 GB per month my prayers will have been answered.
As long as it's not £50 of course

[cheesy_pasty]

Originally Posted by DevonBloke

Allowances for phones will probably still be capped fairly low.
It's the dongle, MiFi, router plans I'm interested in.
It will be interesting to see what they do with these. LTE is what people living in rural areas have been waiting for. The networks have been told they must give rural areas a higher priority than before. My phone line is 7.4Km long and I get 1.3Mbps on ADSL2+. No mobile voice coverage indoors but in a window I can get 1-2 bars 3G (MBNL/EE) at about 1-2Mbps.
2G though is 2-3 bars and since this is from a fairly uncontended rural cell about 2 miles away, I reckon LTE over the same frequency should get me anything from 5 - 15Mbps!
If they can do a plan with 20-50 GB per month my prayers will have been answered.
As long as it's not £50 of course

Higher priority or not, cities all over the UK will receive LTE coverage first. I would imagine we won't see LTE out in rural areas until mid-2014 at least.
That being said I have read about a potential trial of 4G networks being rolled out as a replacement for normal broadband connections in rural areas. So perhaps there will be a faster roll-out to cater for the demand of high speed LTE home internet.