[JamieHT]

Maybe if they did another series they could do six episodes - 3 two-parters and explore the family life more.

[Verence]

Personally I thought the last episode was a bit disappointing. I mean, the women knew who had committed the murders so why did they have to bother trying to find out who the woman in the pictures was??

[ichou]

Originally Posted by Verence

Personally I thought the last episode was a bit disappointing. I mean, the women knew who had committed the murders so why did they have to bother trying to find out who the woman in the pictures was??

Because they didn't know where he was and, very conveniently, her address led them to him........

The whole thing was a bit sketchy - I imagine the novel is more satisfying because it will cover the "pattern" aspect and the uncovered war records in more detail.

[Verence]

Originally Posted by JamieHT

Maybe if they did another series they could do six episodes - 3 two-parters and explore the family life more.

Either that or change the format to single episodes but 2 hours in length.

If it does go to a full series I think they'll regret having killed off Simon Williams' character as he was a useful source of info

[BellaRosa]

Well that is 3 hours of my life I will never get back. What a pile of cr@p the last episode was.

Yet again another weekly drama that was a rushed ending that made no sense.

How did the other 3 know what address to go to ?

[allie4]

Originally Posted by Verence

Either that or change the format to single episodes but 2 hours in length.

If it does go to a full series I think they'll regret having killed off Simon Williams' character as he was a useful source of info

They could conveniently find someone else!

Originally Posted by BellaRosa

Well that is 3 hours of my life I will never get back. What a pile of cr@p the last episode was.

Yet again another weekly drama that was a rushed ending that made no sense.

How did the other 3 know what address to go to ?

They had the same access to it via the postcard, didn't they?

[drykid]

I did find the scene at the start - where she sits down with the psychiatrist and only gradually figures out who he really is - enjoyably creepy, but I thought it went downhill after that. Maybe if they could've found a way to finish with that scene rather than start with it then it would've worked better for me.

The bits with the police again made little sense - they got the police to search the hospital for Crowley (subtle name btw) by telling them a man there stole her handbag?

[bob up and down]

It was dull, predictable and dull. It was all so daft. Oohhhhh lets go into a scary cellar by myself where a madman may be lurking , I have a gun but won't use it..... I shall look weak and feeble and someone will resuce me.

Hurrah! My pals are here.... The Four Marys live.

[rbdcay]

Originally Posted by bob up and down

It was dull, predictable and dull. It was all so daft. Oohhhhh lets go into a scary cellar by myself where a madman may be lurking , I have a gun but won't use it..... I shall look weak and feeble and someone will resuce me.

Hurrah! My pals are here.... The Four Marys live.

Oh come on please tell me if you were in the situation where you had you met someone in a basement with wires attached to grenades that you would shoot him hoping he wouldn't fall over and cause the grenades to blow up?

[Verence]

Originally Posted by allie4

They could conveniently find someone else!

Possibly that other woman who worked at Bletchley who Julie Graham's character blackmailed into helping them??

[Swanandduck2]

A crap ending I thought. Really disappointing. Also very confusing. Why did she not use the gun when she knew he was going to kill and rape her? I would rather take my risk at being blown up myself. Also did they establish how he found it so easy to get girls to leave the train with him?
I do think the four characters themselves were interesting and there is the potential to make a good serial here. But they would definitely need tighter plotting.

[BellaRosa]

Originally Posted by allie4

They could conveniently find someone else!


They had the same access to it via the postcard, didn't they?

I'm not sure. If i have not got any paint drying that needs watching, I may watch again back to back .

[alycidon]

Originally Posted by Swanandduck2

A crap ending I thought. Really disappointing. Also very confusing. Why did she not use the gun when she knew he was going to kill and rape her? I would rather take my risk at being blown up myself. Also did they establish how he found it so easy to get girls to leave the train with him?
I do think the four characters themselves were interesting and there is the potential to make a good serial here. But they would definitely need tighter plotting.

My sentiments exactly.

[Polly Doodle]

Originally Posted by Swanandduck2

. Why did she not use the gun when she knew he was going to kill and rape her? I would rather take my risk at being blown up myself. Also did they establish how he found it so easy to get girls to leave the train with him?

It was confusing and it didn't help that the screen was so dark. I think that Cowley rightly guessed that she didn't have it in her to kill someone in cold blood. He already felt he knew her and how her mind worked. Her primary instinct would always be to protect others rather than to save herself. She took the gun with her intending to kill him if to protect her family but when it came to it, she couldn't pull the trigger and end a life. I assume that it was that rather than fear of the grenade that stopped her.

I thought that they established last week that he probably lured girls on the train by pretending to have access to 'luxury' items such as lipsticks or stockings which were either rationed or difficult to find. He was trained in manipulating people. That had been his job in the war.

[Jimmy Connors]

Disappointed in the last episode, but overall I enjoyed it. The characters themselves warrant a few more episodes. They were interesting.

[enna_g]

As far as I can work out, he didn't kill her when he first met her as he recognised in her a brilliant mind like his own. He wanted to keep her for eternity as he also had her mixed up with the first girl he admired who was killed under the rubble and lay beside him for days. His idea was to substitue her for the killed girl and kill them both. He loved her mind.

Susan however was very worried that he had her family and would kill them, I can only think at that moment that she was not thinking rationally when she went to meet him alone.

She knew where to meet him because he had planted a fake postcard from Julia the former girlfriend in with all his documents knowing they would work it out. That is why he answered the phone when she supposedly rang the dead girl's father.

I though the ending was good.

[Jimmy Connors]

Originally Posted by enna_g

As far as I can work out, he didn't kill her when he first met her as he recognised in her a brilliant mind like his own. He wanted to keep her for eternity as he also had her mixed up with the first girl he admired who was killed under the rubble and lay beside him for days. His idea was to substitue her for the killed girl and kill them both. He loved her mind.

Susan however was very worried that he had her family and would kill them, I can only think at that moment that she was not thinking rationally when she went to meet him alone.

She knew where to meet him because he had planted a fake postcard from Julia the former girlfriend in with all his documents knowing they would work it out. That is why he answered the phone when she supposedly rang the dead girl's father.

I though the ending was good.

That all makes a lot of sense.

We need you on line when the show is airing enna. Well, I do anyway.

[RusholmeRuffian]

Wasn't outstanding, but held my attention enough for 3 hours.

Agreed on the period thing too, i'm not a fan of period dramas at all, but this era is much more interesting and relateable.

Some of the characters were quite poorly developed and the story was a bit sketchy at times but perfectly acceptable midweek drama.
More of the same from ITV would certainly be welcomed by me

[valkay]

The Police chief couldn't do anything about Crowley because they didn't have any proof, so how come that when she shot him the police didn't arrest her because with him dead they still couldn';t prove anything.?

[bob up and down]

Originally Posted by rbdcay

Oh come on please tell me if you were in the situation where you had you met someone in a basement with wires attached to grenades that you would shoot him hoping he wouldn't fall over and cause the grenades to blow up?

I wouldn't have gone down the cellar in the first place.... I am much more sensible than that.

[BellaRosa]

Originally Posted by valkay

The Police chief couldn't do anything about Crowley because they didn't have any proof, so how come that when she shot him the police didn't arrest her because with him dead they still couldn';t prove anything.?

Exactly .. it was just a mucking fuddle to me

[snoweyowl]

They could get Brian Rix to direct the next one.

[Tiggywink]

Originally Posted by BellaRosa

Well that is 3 hours of my life I will never get back. What a pile of cr@p the last episode was.

Yet again another weekly drama that was a rushed ending that made no sense.

How did the other 3 know what address to go to ?

I agree with that. Thie quality of the storyline was poor in comparison to the previous episodes. I don't really understand why Susan walked into what she must have suspected would be a life threatening situation. Why should she think she cold outwit a man who had had everybody else running around in circles. And the fact that the other girls followed her was rather contrived.

[ichou]

Originally Posted by enna_g

As far as I can work out, he didn't kill her when he first met her as he recognised in her a brilliant mind like his own. He wanted to keep her for eternity as he also had her mixed up with the first girl he admired who was killed under the rubble and lay beside him for days. His idea was to substitue her for the killed girl and kill them both. He loved her mind.

Susan however was very worried that he had her family and would kill them, I can only think at that moment that she was not thinking rationally when she went to meet him alone.

She knew where to meet him because he had planted a fake postcard from Julia the former girlfriend in with all his documents knowing they would work it out. That is why he answered the phone when she supposedly rang the dead girl's father.

I though the ending was good.

I must have missed the "planting" bit. The way I saw it, Crowley as he became more disturbed, drew the buried girls face on all his later pornographic propaganda drawings. Simon Williams had indicated as much. The sleuths found out who she was by matching the face to the old personnel records and thereby got her (father's) address. I have assumed he moved in there because he was so fixated on her memory. But you may be right ......I shall also have to watch again like some others....

That said, her going alone to the address when she knew he there was very Scream 1,2 and 3 and therefore juvenile.

[ichou]

Originally Posted by bob up and down

It was dull, predictable and dull. It was all so daft. Oohhhhh lets go into a scary cellar by myself where a madman may be lurking , I have a gun but won't use it..... I shall look weak and feeble and someone will resuce me.

Hurrah! My pals are here.... The Four Marys live.

Ooooo....you're giving your age away!

Now, was that Bunty or Judy?