[Rich Tea.]

Tonight at the end of David Jensens Double Top 20 Show he played Freda Payne, Band Of Gold as the final song on the show just before the 8pm news. Two minutes later the Donny Osmond Show began, and played exactly the same record to start his show, Freda Payne's Band Of Gold! I have never ever heard one radio show end, and the next begin with exactly the same record before. Isn't anyone paying attention on Smooth? There have been notable errors with the Double Top 20 in the past months, including last week, but playing the same song twice in a row, at the end of one and the start of another show is simply lack of attention somewhere, as well as being somewhat amusing in its stupidity.

[Gary Brenton]

It is more than likely a technical error due to the station being networked. (being that the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing) - if that makes sense.

Jingles and advertisements are all fired up from one mixing desk which is linked to fire up every other 'smooth' station and occasionally mishaps happen.

I think also that the playback system is ran automated of which presenters have no control...that maybe just the case.

[danrichards]

There is also the theory that one (or both) were voicetracked rather than live, and there was no check of playlists made. Although that's still a basic mistake if it's the case!

[Rich Tea.]

Originally Posted by danrichards

There is also the theory that one (or both) were voicetracked rather than live, and there was no check of playlists made. Although that's still a basic mistake if it's the case!

To be honest I found it more amusing than annoying, but as Donny does his show from Las Vegas I'm sure he had no idea whatsoever, and the David Jensen show appears recorded. I'm presuming that Donny is actually live from Las Vegas though. There have sure been some silly errors on Sunday evenings lately, during Jensens otherwise excellent show.

[bluesdiamond]

at the moment, with half of DS claiming Smooth is going to be shut down and Global will use Gold, do the folk behind the scenes at Smooth give a damn?
Even if Smooth brand stays, it reads like (agin DS'ers) it will come from Leicester Square, so all those behind the scene bods at Real and Smooth in Manchester must be counting down days.
I worked for another industry when they merged our operation with another brand...and though we were professional with the customer, knowing in 6 months you would be out of work is not a motivator.

[michael1152]

I am sure Donny Osmonds show will be voicetracked, and when he's on from Las Vegas, while it is 8pm here, it would be 12pm where he is, I'm sure smooth will do the music/ads/news etc... and he will just send some links from L.V.

All the other shows where they get big name hosts in like the Pete Waterman one is V.T'd, and Jensens double top 20, so would imagine Donny Osmond gets paid a huge amount of money for 4 hours worth of links!

[bluesdiamond]

Originally Posted by michael1152

I am sure Donny Osmonds show will be voicetracked, and when he's on from Las Vegas, while it is 8pm here, it would be 12pm where he is, I'm sure smooth will do the music/ads/news etc... and he will just send some links from L.V.

All the other shows where they get big name hosts in like the Pete Waterman one is V.T'd, and Jensens double top 20, so would imagine Donny Osmond gets paid a huge amount of money for 4 hours worth of links!

I would also guess he would be at Church, a lot of my fellow Mormons are not into Sunday working.

[Rich Tea.]

Originally Posted by bluesdiamond

I would also guess he would be at Church, a lot of my fellow Mormons are not into Sunday working.

Interesting point BluesDiamond. I suppose it depends if he's devout in his beliefs.

Regarding Global, and what you also said about the future prospects of Smooth, which I know nothing about, but I have heard a little bit about this Global organisation and for want of a better way of putting it, I tend to think of them as "radio vandals".

[Allen_Fleckney]

Never the less it still should be the head of music's job to "comb" through the lists to check for any repetition, there will be PRS list for the Double top 20, and the selecter shedule, so somebody ( human) made a boob, but I agree with a previous post, with all the unsettled nerves about Jobs within the company, it doesn't help. Plus no radio station will ever be able to stop mistakes like that happening, even though they are quite rare now.

[SmartProgrammer]

Originally Posted by Rich Tea.

I'm presuming that Donny is actually live from Las Vegas though.

The Donny Osmond show is not live it's syndicated in the UK through Blue Revolution. http://www.bluerevolution.com/progra...gramming/donny

Same with Ryan Seacrest on Real Radio. This show is syndicated around the world using parts of his KIIS-FM morning show via Premiere Radio Networks.

[michael1152]

I was flicking through the dial on my car radio the other night and came across that Ryan Seacrest show- it has to be one of the worst bits that has ever been put on Real Radio- surely why would they want to put music on, then bits of chopped up ryan seacrest from his american shows, where he is unable to tell you what's been played and have any relevance to what has gone on in Real radio's areas.

Surely the figures can't be good between 10pm-1am, everyone else must be watching the tv then, or listening to a better station.

[Rich Tea.]

Originally Posted by SmartProgrammer

The Donny Osmond show is not live it's syndicated in the UK through Blue Revolution. http://www.bluerevolution.com/progra...gramming/donny

Oh, thanks for that. I thought the show tended to have a somewhat wooden and "detached" sound to it. Probably explains it. Interestingly, later in the evening on the show after Donny, from midnight, the guy on the show, Derek Webster, actually felt he had to make the point that he was really there in the studio "live" until the early hours, which is quite extraordinary that it would ever need to be said. Clearly it does, especially on Smooth Radio.

[Steve_Watt]

Capital used to have problems with track spacing when they went over to selector. Remeber New Order being played as the last record on overnights and Tarrant playing it as the second record in after his show started @ 6.30. Used to happen quiet often on Chiltern too.

[Ethan Rayne]

No-one at the former GMG stations care, most know they're only killing time waiting for OFCOM to rubberstamp the Global takeover then it's p45 time.

[NewbieBen12]

I've heard this before on Metro Radio, they played Chris Brown's Yeah x3 at 18:55 and then again on the networked In Demand at 19:00. Probably human error not checking playlist etc.

[80sfan]

Freda Payne's Band of Gold is an overplayed song on some radio stations anyway, so perhaps the average listener didn't even notice?

[bluesdiamond]

Originally Posted by Ethan Rayne

No-one at the former GMG stations care, most know they're only killing time waiting for OFCOM to rubberstamp the Global takeover then it's p45 time.

The sooner OFCOM decide the better.

GMG are at Salford Quays, where is Capital? Guess Capital and Heart will share studios/local news.

[SouthCity]

Originally Posted by bluesdiamond

The sooner OFCOM decide the better.

GMG are at Salford Quays, where is Capital? Guess Capital and Heart will share studios/local news.

Ofcom's report is due on Friday (28th September).

It will then be up to Maria Miller to decide whether to refer it to the Competition Commission, in which case it could take until next summer for them to produce their findings.

[Ethan Rayne]

Originally Posted by bluesdiamond

The sooner OFCOM decide the better.

GMG are at Salford Quays, where is Capital? Guess Capital and Heart will share studios/local news.

Global have a studio about half a mile away from Laser house the other side of Trafford Rd. on Exchange quay, XFM along with Capital NW and Gold NW are broadcast from there. And I agree, make the decision and let things happen instead of this stupid 'hold separate' situation.

[old pilot]

Originally Posted by SmartProgrammer

The Donny Osmond show is not live it's syndicated in the UK through Blue Revolution. http://www.bluerevolution.com/progra...gramming/donny

Same with Ryan Seacrest on Real Radio. This show is syndicated around the world using parts of his KIIS-FM morning show via Premiere Radio Networks.

I thought you'd left this place SP?

[Rich Tea.]

Originally Posted by old pilot

I thought you'd left this place SP?

What's the betting you'll be in yet another tustle with Mapperley Ridge on this thread before long?

If the dark clouds of gloom are hanging over Smooth Radio I don't think it excuses or means that mistakes are being made on purpose because I'm sure everyone behaves in a professional capacity, but for someone who mostly only listens to Smooth on a Sunday evening to have come across quite so many elementary errors is very surprising. There can simply be no excuses for some of them.

The increasing use of non live radio shows as if live is a disappointment.

[Rich Tea.]

More basic schoolboy errors in the production of this show on Sunday evening (5th May) it seems.

[Mapperley Ridge]

Originally Posted by Rich Tea.

More basic schoolboy errors in the production of this show on Sunday evening (5th May) it seems.

Care to elaborate?

[Rich Tea.]

Originally Posted by Mapperley Ridge

Care to elaborate?

More than happy to Mapperley Ridge.

I bumped this thread up for a poster, for their benefit who began a parallel thread on the same topic after Sunday's Double Top 20, which was one I missed this week. The other thread along the same lines should fill you in. It's much as was said before on here previously regards wrong songs being played. In these days when people are walking about with 1,000's of tracks playlisted into their mp3/iPods, it cannot be asking too much that a show manages to correctly place a mere dozen or so tracks correctly inside an hour, fit for broadcast, surely, especially on a retrospective chart countdown show where accuracy should be paramount?