[Daisy Bennyboots]

Originally Posted by lozenger

I'm really not sure what point you are trying to make - but try explaining those statistics to the kids. I'm sure it will help them in trying to accept new boy.

That he should think twice about criticising her for her revolving door love life with a child in the home when he was one of those revolving door men himself..no different from Leo or Kieran. Did he give a thought about confused Harvey might have been after watching Pete be swiftly replacing Scott, then Matt after Dwight? No-one's saying it's a good situation..but spare us the "I'm furious for the kids" drip-feed , Pete. You knew what she was like and you jumped on then off the stepdaddy/fame circus bandwagon gladly like all the others - and you had no issue with being 'the lastest new daddy figure' in the house, then.

So the ex wife has two failed relationships. It's not the world's biggest crime...and yet thanks to you and your management company, it's your young daughter than find herself on the subject matter the front cover of Now, so you can gain yet more sympathy. For once, just once, leave the kids out of it - they can read now. I notice KP got a payout from a magazine recently after the kids saw something on a front cover involving them and were distressed about it - so publicity surrounding them affect them. He needs to leave the kids out of this...and stop being such a hypocrite.

Poor kid, I feel for Princess. She has a new home set up to come to terms with, thelast thing she needs is to feel she has incurred some sort of wrath in her father, splashed all over the magazines. I say wrath, because when children are used in the war between parents, they will always blame themselves.

[Daisy Bennyboots]

Originally Posted by Nicola32

That's right..turn it around to PA to deflect from her disgraceful behaviour.

Nope...this is about him using bad/hypocritical behaviour as a reaction for her bad behaviour. Neither is worserer, you see. But he had an opportunity to be a man over this and has chosen to be a weak-willed twit who uses the situation - particular his poor daughter, to stay on the front pages.

What a wasted opportunity to prove yourself and put fatherhood over fame.

P.s You don't have to bold every other word, I can perfectly understand which words require accentuation.

[SenseiSam]

I don't think there's any way of conclusively proving whether these so-called 'friends' were speaking with or without Pete's authority. For me LAO's brilliant post put forth a very convincing argument for giving him the benefit of the doubt this time. What we can see is that he hasn't responded to Kate's statement so if the press were trying to whip up an ongoing public fight between them they've been disappointed.

Meanwhile he was at the NTAs last night with Emily looking understandably a little strained but getting on with life. http://www.reveal.co.uk/showbiz-cele...-pictures.html

Momma, I sort of agree with you about the wit but you manage to combine it with being so warm-hearted and wise and always look for the best in people. Clone enough of you and we'll probably have world peace by Christmas

[Daisy Bennyboots]

Originally Posted by SenseiSam

I don't think there's any way of conclusively proving whether these so-called 'friends' were speaking with or without Pete's authority. For me LAO's brilliant post put forth a very convincing argument for giving him the benefit of the doubt this time. What we can see is that he hasn't responded to Kate's statement so if the press were trying to whip up an ongoing public fight between them they've been disappointed.

Meanwhile he was at the NTAs last night with Emily looking understandably a little strained but getting on with life. http://www.reveal.co.uk/showbiz-cele...-pictures.html

Momma, I sort of agree with you on about the wit but you manage to combine it with being so warm-hearted and wise and always look for the best in people. Clone enough of you and we'll probably have world peace by Christmas

I think if it hadn't come from Pete's camp, he could have issued a swift dismissal. That speaks volumes to me, unfortunately - it's the work on CAN, they have no respect for the children, sadly, then it comes to bashing their ex-client. So I'm not giving them the benefit of the doubt on this one. (and given that it comes from your own management, if what has been drip fed is unpopular, you can always deny it any everyone is none the wiser )

Can I joint in the Momma love too and echo your sentiments? Waves at Momma - hiya xxxx

[Snow Martian]

Originally Posted by Nicola32

That's right..turn it around to PA to deflect from her disgraceful behaviour.

I don't know if you noticed but this WAS a thread about Peter Andre, that is, until the usual suspects arrived.

[Daisy Bennyboots]

Originally Posted by Snow Martian

Well, this WAS a thread about Peter Andre, that is, until the usual suspects arrived.

It's still very much about Peter Andre but other people have to be mentioned in order to debate Who are the usual suspects?

[The Prumeister]

[quote=Nicola32;63818192]

Originally Posted by The Prumeister

Why are you confused? You have obviously taken what I said out of context.

If I had said He wishes she didn't exist you would have a point-but that's not what I said is it?

"I bet he wishes he could forget that she exists" = I bet he wishes he could put her out of his mind and forget all about her.

I hope I have explained myself a little better for you now.

I'm afraid you haven't at all. Despite your proliferation of bolded words which you seem to insist upon in every post; your attempt at semantic wrangling does not work for me at all.

Wishing he could forget that she exists would be wishing to forget that the Mother of his children exists, which would lead one to suggest that therefore the children would also not exist - as they were created in her womb.

Have a nice day

[Snow Martian]

Originally Posted by Daisy Bennyboots

It's still very much about Peter Andre but other people have to be mentioned in order to debate Who are the usual suspects?

It's turned into the usual tedious him vs her.

[SenseiSam]

I think he responded fairly promptly on Twitter to say neither he or his management have given interviews 'to anyone about anything' this week. I seriously doubt they'd have given approval for the DM to use a photo showing him distressed about his brother to illustrate his supposed reaction to Kate's marriage. But as I said I don't think there's a way of proving anything one way or another so it's going to come down to what people choose to believe.

One thing we can all agree on! Group Momma love xxxx

[RealityRocks]

I'm confused.

As much as marrying someone after six weeks or so is a dumb thing to do, surely this new husband was living in the home prior to him signing a little bit of paper. Why does being married change it for their (Peter and Katie's) kids? Why didn't he moan about it six weeks ago? I'm not sticking up for the woman, she's a disaster zone, but how does it help Princess to suddenly be the focus for this and be on the front of the cheap glossies? At the VERY least, Katie put a stop to that. I mean... who is the bad parent here? The one who is a little too dependent on marriage and love and all the ideals, or the one who makes money pimping his kids out to paparazzi?

[Fizgig]

Originally Posted by Daisy Bennyboots

Indeed If you compare Harvey and Junior and Princess in terms of KP's partners....then technically Peter is no different from new husband Kieran in that he was the third lover her kid had known and he swiftly moved in on on KP when she was living with someone else. So it makes me laugh when he (sometimes via his management company to keep his paws clean) had the audacity to criticise her rapid turnover of relationships.

So the fact that KP was moving 'uncles' in on Harvey from the get-go is some kind of defence for KP? Peter being the 3rd isn't a bad reflection on him, but on her.

[Fizgig]

Originally Posted by RealityRocks

I'm confused.

As much as marrying someone after six weeks or so is a dumb thing to do, surely this new husband was living in the home prior to him signing a little bit of paper. Why does being married change it for their (Peter and Katie's) kids? Why didn't he moan about it six weeks ago? I'm not sticking up for the woman, she's a disaster zone, but how does it help Princess to suddenly be the focus for this and be on the front of the cheap glossies? At the VERY least, Katie put a stop to that. I mean... who is the bad parent here? The one who is a little too dependent on marriage and love and all the ideals, or the one who makes money pimping his kids out to paparazzi?

Wasn't it the other one who was living in the home - Leandro No-habla-ingles? This is an even newer upgrade (or downgrade, we shall see). The kids have had to live with Alex Reid, Leandro & Kev, from 2010 to now.
Yes, that's KP's problem, those ideals!

[Daisy Bennyboots]

Originally Posted by Fizgig

So the fact that KP was moving 'uncles' in on Harvey from the get-go is some kind of defence for KP? Peter being the 3rd isn't a bad reflection on him, but on her.

That's not really the point I'm trying to make - more that he knows what he was getting himself in for as he's been in the exact same situation of KP's men in the past 11 years - move in swifty, become stepdaddy, move out, get fame. Why does he think it's ok to criticise her now when the way KP lives her life it suited him down the the ground when it was his "go"? She hasn't changed. If she had become someone different, he might have a point but I'll never understand why PA complains about what he once embraced..and once was.

[i4u]

Originally Posted by RealityRocks

I'm confused.

As much as marrying someone after six weeks or so is a dumb thing to do, surely this new husband was living in the home prior to him signing a little bit of paper. Why does being married change it for their (Peter and Katie's) kids? Why didn't he moan about it six weeks ago? I'm not sticking up for the woman, she's a disaster zone, but how does it help Princess to suddenly be the focus for this and be on the front of the cheap glossies? At the VERY least, Katie put a stop to that. I mean... who is the bad parent here? The one who is a little too dependent on marriage and love and all the ideals, or the one who makes money pimping his kids out to paparazzi?

Peter has also had a fair share of females in his and his children's lives since his split with his former wife, the only thing he hasn't done is marry them.

If both parents have custody of the children would not both parents thave to agree to exploit their children in the way they do, could both parents have a financial agreement re the children?

I think one of thye most shocking things was in one of those mockumentries about in which Peter Andre said Katie Price had the 'image rights' to Harvey. It demonstrated what both parents primary concern was and is.

[Fizgig]

Originally Posted by Daisy Bennyboots

That's not really the point I'm trying to make - more that he knows what he was getting himself in for as he's been in the exact same situation of KP's men in the past 11 years - move in swifty, become stepdaddy, move out, get fame. Why does he think it's ok to criticise her now when the way KP lives her life it suited him down the the ground when it was his "go"? She hasn't changed. If she had become someone different, he might have a point but I'll never understand why PA complains about what he once embraced..and once was.

Most normal people would criticise the way she lives her life. He has more reason to because she's effecting his children.
The 'he knew how she lives her life' thing is just nonsense.

[Fizgig]

Originally Posted by i4u

Peter has also had a fair share of females in his and his children's lives since his split with his former wife the only thing he hasn't done is marry them.

.

Nor did he move them into the children's home.
And who are we talking here, cos I can only think of Elen Rivas.

[The Prumeister]

Originally Posted by Fizgig

Most normal people would criticise the way she lives her life. He has more reason to because she's effecting his children.
The 'he knew how she lives her life' thing is just nonsense.

Why?

I think it's extremely pertinent.

He knew what she was like and happily embraced the lifestyle. He knew she had a history, had made money out of her body and sexual image, knew she had a potty mouth, knew she was in a relationship at the time and still went on and married her.

[Fizgig]

Originally Posted by The Prumeister

Why?

I think it's extremely pertinent.

He knew what she was like and happily embraced the lifestyle. He knew she had a history, had made money out of her body and sexual image, knew she had a potty mouth, knew she was in a relationship at the time and still went on and married her.

Yes, he was stupid to marry her, but she convinced him Jordan & Katie were 2 different things. One was just work. He said from the jungle he didn't like the Jordan side, but married her for the Katie side. The Katie act lasted a few years, then out came Jordan. He was an idiot to marry her, but realised so and left her. What more could he do without a tardis?

Are we not allowed to criticise our ex's because we were stupid enough to have a relationship with them at one time?

[The Prumeister]

Originally Posted by Fizgig

Yes, he was stupid to marry her, but she convinced him Jordan & Katie were 2 different things. One was just work. He said from the jungle he didn't like the Jordan side, but married her for the Katie side. The Katie act lasted a few years, then out came Jordan. He was an idiot to marry her, but realised so and left her. What more could he do without a tardis?

Are we not allowed to criticise our ex's because we were stupid enough to have a relationship with them at one time?:rolleyes:

Where did I say that?

& what's with the rolling eyes?

You made the point that it was nonsense that he 'knew how she lives her life' and I pointed out that it was far from nonsense.

Quite aside from the Katie/Jordan 'split personality' - anyone with an ounce of sense could see they were one and the same.

It always amuses me when people make PA out to be some sort of beatific saint who was so in love he completely failed to realise his ex was a skank and who is such a naive innocent always believing the best in people...

Then you see him dry humping KP on screen, acting like a dog on heat and suddenly history rewrites itself....

[Fizgig]

Originally Posted by The Prumeister

Where did I say that?

& what's with the rolling eyes?

You made the point that it was nonsense that he 'knew how she lives her life' and I pointed out that it was far from nonsense.

Quite aside from the Katie/Jordan 'split personality' - anyone with an ounce of sense could see they were one and the same.

It always amuses me when people make PA out to be some sort of beatific saint who was so in love he completely failed to realise his ex was a skank and who is such a naive innocent always believing the best in people...

Then you see him dry humping KP on screen, acting like a dog on heat and suddenly history rewrites itself....

It's nonsense that 'he knew how she lived her life" is being used to relate to something that's happening now. KP's behaviour with moving in men is being put onto PA, and the excuse - that he knew what she was like. I don't think he would have touched her with a bargepole if he could have seen into their future. That isn't making him out to be a saint at all.
Why should he not criticise her moving in men? Because he knew what she was like? No, it doesn't make sense, that's why I eye-rolled.

[The Prumeister]

Originally Posted by Fizgig

It's nonsense that 'he knew how she lived her life" is being used to relate to something that's happening now. KP's behaviour with moving in men is being put onto PA, and the excuse - that he knew what she was like. I don't think he would have touched her with a bargepole if he could have seen into their future. That isn't making him out to be a saint at all.
Why should he not criticise her moving in men? Because he knew what she was like? No, it doesn't make sense, that's why I eye-rolled.

I'm talking about how she was at the time they met. A glorified stripper with squillions of kiss and tells behind her. Someone whose 'books' were littered with exposes of past lovers and their 'acorns'. If he'd had an ounce of sense at the time he would have run a mile - nothing to do with seeing into the future.

I do agree that he has every right to criticise her actions now as it will be deeply affecting their kids - but it does make me chuckle when people paint PA as whiter than white. Lest we forget, one of his exes is Mel B - hardly a shrinking violet either

[Fizgig]

Originally Posted by The Prumeister

I'm talking about how she was at the time they met. A glorified stripper with squillions of kiss and tells behind her. Someone whose 'books' were littered with exposes of past lovers and their 'acorns'. If he'd had an ounce of sense at the time he would have run a mile - nothing to do with seeing into the future.
I do agree that he has every right to criticise her actions now as it will be deeply affecting their kids - but it does make me chuckle when people paint PA as whiter than white. Lest we forget, one of his exes is Mel B - hardly a shrinking violet either

Then we're talking about 2 different things. I was replying to the post below:

Originally Posted by Daisy Bennyboots

Indeed If you compare Harvey and Junior and Princess in terms of KP's partners....then technically Peter is no different from new husband Kieran in that he was the third lover her kid had known and he swiftly moved in on on KP when she was living with someone else. So it makes me laugh when he (sometimes via his management company to keep his paws clean) had the audacity to criticise her rapid turnover of relationships.

Originally Posted by Daisy Bennyboots

That's not really the point I'm trying to make - more that he knows what he was getting himself in for as he's been in the exact same situation of KP's men in the past 11 years - move in swifty, become stepdaddy, move out, get fame. Why does he think it's ok to criticise her now when the way KP lives her life it suited him down the the ground when it was his "go"? She hasn't changed. If she had become someone different, he might have a point but I'll never understand why PA complains about what he once embraced..and once was.

^ As above, it's not about him knowing he was marrying a page 3 girl not an angel. It's about him being bashed for criticising her NOW, because he married her THEN. That's why I said 'he knew' was nonsense.

PA has been around the block, he's had loads of women, he says so himself. Nobody is trying to make out otherwise.
As far as we know he's been faithful whilst married, and hasn't moved women into the kid's house. So he isn't being hypocritical.

[The Prumeister]

^ OK, fair points

[Fizgig]

Originally Posted by The Prumeister

^ OK, fair points

I'm now imposing a ban on myself until tonight, I should not be on here at this time.

[The Prumeister]

Originally Posted by Fizgig

I'm now imposing a ban on myself until tonight, I should not be on here at this time.

I'm watching you