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Old 23-01-2013, 22:30   #1
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Cameron Hypocricy
He has promised a referendum on exit of eu in 4 years time.

Yet Scoffed at Alex Salmond for having a constitutional referendum in 2014 instead of now ???

Why dont YOU have a referendum now Mr Cameron ?

Yet another puff and bluster slimy spin by a man who could easily hide behind a spiral staircase. ?

David Cameron....All Fart and no follow through
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Old 23-01-2013, 22:33   #2
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This came up in prime Ministers Questions today and he answered it then.

You will be able to look it up online on sites such as the BBC iplayer should you care for the reply ..........................
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Old 23-01-2013, 22:34   #3
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I'm using that one!!
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Old 23-01-2013, 22:39   #4
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He has promised a referendum on exit of eu in 4 years time.

Yet Scoffed at Alex Salmond for having a constitutional referendum in 2014 instead of now ???

Why dont YOU have a referendum now Mr Cameron ?

Yet another puff and bluster slimy spin by a man who could easily hide behind a spiral staircase. ?

David Cameron....All Fart and no follow through

HAHA
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Old 23-01-2013, 22:40   #5
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Is it actually possible for a politician to achieve hypocrisy given that they genetic liars.
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Old 23-01-2013, 22:41   #6
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This came up in prime Ministers Questions today and he answered it then.

You will be able to look it up online on sites such as the BBC iplayer should you care for the reply ..........................
Sorry Mate, Im one of the hard working idiots that Dodgy Dave seems to love yet punish....no time to watch TV during the day.
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Old 23-01-2013, 22:45   #7
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Sorry Mate, Im one of the hard working idiots that Dodgy Dave seems to love yet punish....no time to watch TV during the day.
That's why i pointed out it was on iplayer
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Old 23-01-2013, 22:46   #8
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He has promised a referendum on exit of eu in 4 years time.

Yet Scoffed at Alex Salmond for having a constitutional referendum in 2014 instead of now ???

Why dont YOU have a referendum now Mr Cameron ?

Yet another puff and bluster slimy spin by a man who could easily hide behind a spiral staircase. ?

David Cameron....All Fart and no follow through
As he said in PMQs, coz AS wants to leave the UK as it is now, But Cameron wants to renegotiate our relationship with EU, then have the referendum on wether we still want to be part of it

Which makes sense.
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Old 23-01-2013, 22:53   #9
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That's why i pointed out it was on iplayer
Thanks , didnt mean to be obtuse.
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Old 23-01-2013, 22:55   #10
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As he said in PMQs, coz AS wants to leave the UK as it is now, But Cameron wants to renegotiate our relationship with EU, then have the referendum on wether we still want to be part of it

Which makes sense.
So why did DC rule out a question on Devo Max?
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Old 23-01-2013, 22:56   #11
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As he said in PMQs, coz AS wants to leave the UK as it is now, But Cameron wants to renegotiate our relationship with EU, then have the referendum on wether we still want to be part of it

Which makes sense.
and that takes 3 years !!!!!

In or out ....do it now David.

It will never happen, its just a knee jerk ploy to upstage UK support.

Cameron , if he was popular would not have to govern by devious manipulation.
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Old 23-01-2013, 22:57   #12
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So why did DC rule out a question on Devo Max?
This ^^
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Old 24-01-2013, 09:26   #13
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Why dont YOU have a referendum now Mr Cameron ?
Have you been living in a cave?

We have a coalition government and policies are agreed between the two parties; one of which is very pro-Europe.

Cameron is therefore not in a position to offer a referendum before the election and even then only if he is elected with a majority.
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Old 24-01-2013, 09:42   #14
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He has promised a referendum on exit of eu in 4 years time.

Yet Scoffed at Alex Salmond for having a constitutional referendum in 2014 instead of now ???

Why dont YOU have a referendum now Mr Cameron ?

Yet another puff and bluster slimy spin by a man who could easily hide behind a spiral staircase. ?

David Cameron....All Fart and no follow through
He plans to give the people a referendum in 2017, by then he hopes people will have forgotten.
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Old 24-01-2013, 09:59   #15
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He has promised a referendum on exit of eu in 4 years time.

Yet Scoffed at Alex Salmond for having a constitutional referendum in 2014 instead of now ???

Why dont YOU have a referendum now Mr Cameron ?

Yet another puff and bluster slimy spin by a man who could easily hide behind a spiral staircase. ?

David Cameron....All Fart and no follow through
The UK isn't Europe. We're not changing - Europe is.
There's no point in reviewing your membership to the ever changing feast that is europe until you know what it's going to look like but Scotland is looking at leaving a union that isn't changing - so why wait to make that judgement call?

It's quite simple really - I can't believe you can't see the difference. Perhaps your desire to find the excuse to have a pop at Cameron is getting in the way.
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Old 24-01-2013, 10:03   #16
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So why did DC rule out a question on Devo Max?
You know damn well why. It's because having devo max on a ballot wouldn't make the independence argument go away. It would be regarded as a stepping stone towards that end prize by the nationalists and the merry-go-round would just continue.

A straight yes/no removes all the ambiguity. Everyone then knows where they stand. What's wrong with that?
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Old 24-01-2013, 10:06   #17
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Have you been living in a cave?

We have a coalition government and policies are agreed between the two parties; one of which is very pro-Europe.

Cameron is therefore not in a position to offer a referendum before the election and even then only if he is elected with a majority.
And because it is a coalition government, civil servants who serve the government cannot be used to draw up plans for a Conservative policy. And Clegg has made this quite clear. Until and unless Cameron wins the 2015 GE he cannot ask civil servants to do any or all of the preparatory work that will be necessary.
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Old 24-01-2013, 10:07   #18
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The difference between the two cases is that Cameron wants to negotiate a deal and then have a referendum on the result.

Salmond was a referendum and then, if he wins, then negotiate on the terms of independence.
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