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Old 24-01-2013, 09:38
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The ball boy has made himself look like a right idiot. Rolling around and grimacing like a girl after a little tap in the ribs.

As for Hazard - the only thing he did wrong was to do it in front of so many people. If it was done with let's say an apprentice on the training pitch nobody would be saying anything.
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Old 24-01-2013, 09:41
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But seriously, some of the things I heard last night on Talksport (I know, my fault!) and twitter...you would have thought Operation Yewtree was involved. I know it's because it's Chelsea it gets amplified, I get that, but to say and print a grown man has abused a child...brutality....assault etc....is just not on.
Indeed, it is refreshing that actually the football community here (99.9% of them) has been sensible on here where the UK media has been utterly ridiculous.

As a CFC fan, im going to try and see through the spin when next time (and there will be a next time) Suarez of Liverpool or Rooney of United basically gets slaughtered by the agenda based media. (which i have recognized and stated many times in this forum)

It IS an incident that warrants a red card, but it was done and dusted. It is not a front page story.
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Old 24-01-2013, 09:43
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Indeed, it is refreshing that actually the football community here (99.9% of them) has been sensible on here where the UK media has been utterly ridiculous.

As a CFC fan, im going to try and see through the spin when next time (and there will be a next time) Suarez of Liverpool or Rooney of United basically gets slaughtered by the agenda based media. (which i have recognized and stated many times in this forum)

It IS an incident that warrants a red card, but it was done and dusted. It is not a front page story.
Me and my OH said that last night. If it had been Suarez or Rooney, it would have been over amplified as well by the media and football forums, I was expecting that on here this morning, so am pleasantly surprised.
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Old 24-01-2013, 09:46
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A professional footballer acting like this isn't on; it may be true that the ballboy was hanging onto the ball, but the attempt by Hazard to kick the ball from under him was irresponsible and unprofessional. This gives out the wrong signals to young supporters who may think this is alright for them to do when they play football.

Now, that the charges have been dropped for assault, and that Hazard will get a ban anyway, I wonder how much money the ball boy was paid to drop the assault charges?
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Old 24-01-2013, 09:47
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Now, that the charges have been dropped for assault, and that Hazard will get a ban anyway, I wonder how much money the ball boy was paid to drop the assault charges?
Him and his father were invited to the dressing room, met all the players, Hazard apologised, the boy apologised, it's done and dusted.

FA will decide on Hazard's ban.
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Old 24-01-2013, 09:49
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Him and his father were invited to the dressing room, met all the players, Hazard apologised, the boy apologised, it's done and dusted.

FA will decide on Hazard's ban.
Oh, right.
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Old 24-01-2013, 09:50
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The ball boy has made himself look like a right idiot. Rolling around and grimacing like a girl after a little tap in the ribs.

As for Hazard - the only thing he did wrong was to do it in front of so many people. If it was done with let's say an apprentice on the training pitch nobody would be saying anything.
Aye right ... act like a bully behind closed doors and that makes everything okay
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Old 24-01-2013, 09:51
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A professional footballer acting like this isn't on; it may be true that the ballboy was hanging onto the ball, but the attempt by Hazard to kick the ball from under him was irresponsible and unprofessional. This gives out the wrong signals to young supporters who may think this is alright for them to do when they play football.

Now, that the charges have been dropped for assault, and that Hazard will get a ban anyway, I wonder how much money the ball boy was paid to drop the assault charges?
I would imagine he dropped it so his own actions weren't scrutinised,timewasting, pretending to have been hurt along with his tweet boasting he would do something like that.
If he had actually been kicked , he would be on tv showing his bruise.
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Old 24-01-2013, 09:53
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Me and my OH said that last night. If it had been Suarez or Rooney, it would have been over amplified as well by the media and football forums, I was expecting that on here this morning, so am pleasantly surprised.
Ironically, i think if the media had just have reported it with a little less hyperbole and exaggeration, that Hazard and CFC would be getting a lot more pelters on here.

But it is because of the complete and utter overreaction of the media: A talk radio station comparing the incident to kicking a toddler in the face in the street etc, that i think that a sensible path has been trodden. I really think that some of the opinions in the media are bordering on being actionable.

Thank goodness this oik tweeted about his premeditated actions before he did them! I dread to think of the reaction and headlines if he had not.

It says it all when a completely partisan, anonymous banter based internet football forum is the place for sensible and well considered opinion where the tabloids and broadcast media are squeezing this story for all their greedy little mits and paid for soundbites can get from it.
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Old 24-01-2013, 09:54
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Can I just say that you will find majority of Chelsea fans (that I know personally and know on Chelsea forums) do not condone what Eden Hazard did and think the red was completely fair.

But he was going for the ball, no matter how much people want to believe he wasn't, he was.
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Old 24-01-2013, 09:56
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It says it all when a completely partisan, anonymous banter based internet football forum is the place for sensible and well considered opinion where the tabloids and broadcast media are squeezing this story for all their greedy little mits and paid for soundbites can get from it.
Indeed, Ray Parlour and Sam Matterface who commentated on the game last night were screaming....'he's 11....you can't do that...he's giving him a right kicking!!!' And that soundbite has been playing on a loop on Talksport...
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Old 24-01-2013, 09:58
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Now, that the charges have been dropped for assault, and that Hazard will get a ban anyway, I wonder how much money the ball boy was paid to drop the assault charges?
"Charges have been dropped for assault"

err what charges?

After the incident, someone made a complaint to the police. The police spoke to all parties and that was it. NO charges, no arrest, no assault.

And yet here you are stating in writing in a public forum that Eden Hazard was arrested, charged with assault, and then the police or CPS decided there was no evidence.

You also allege that someone paid off the ball boy, and that the ball boy accepted money to drop a police investigation.

These are very serious statements you have made in public.
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Old 24-01-2013, 09:58
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I'm not a massive Suarez fan, but I'd be saying the exact same if it was him or pretty much anyone. (Except Nicky Summerbee, that guy can go to hell)
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Old 24-01-2013, 09:58
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Can I just say that you will find majority of Chelsea fans (that I know personally and know on Chelsea forums) do not condone what Eden Hazard did and think the red was completely fair.

But he was going for the ball, no matter how much people want to believe he wasn't, he was.
I'm certainly no fan of Chelsea to say the least . But even I can see that it was an attempt at the ball. A foolish one but still an attempt.

Once Hazard get a rulling from the FA it will all blow over.
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Old 24-01-2013, 10:02
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Just said on the radio that the ballboy is the son of the Swansea Chairman.......
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Old 24-01-2013, 10:03
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Just said on the radio that the ballboy is the son of the Swansea Chairman.......
The majority shareholder - was known (thanks to the internet) instantly last night - as was his twitter account and pre meditated tweets.
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Old 24-01-2013, 10:04
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Fwiw, I don't know what the ballboy was playing at and I didn't see Hazard kick him.

Probably not a great idea to try and kick the ball out from under him but worse things happen at sea.

This culture of being determined to be offended/outraged/uncomprehending does seem childish to me. Becomes quite difficult to respect people who go down that road.
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Old 24-01-2013, 10:05
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Eden Hazard "Intentionally kicked a ball boy"

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Old 24-01-2013, 10:05
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who he?
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Old 24-01-2013, 10:07
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No - a player can be red-carded for diving. That's his punishment. A ball boy cannot be given a red card, so another punishment was in order. Actually I reckon the player was just trying to kick the ball out of the ball boy's clutches.
If the player had not kicked him, the ball boy's cheating would have gone unremarked and he would have got clean away with his unsportsmanlike behaviour.
And that punishment deserved to be a kick in the ribs?

Time wasting has gone on for ages, and will continue to go on. Ball boys, players, managers all time waste. Why this particualt occasion has caused such outrage I don't know.
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Old 24-01-2013, 10:07
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No - a player can be red-carded for diving.
A player can NOT be red carded for a dive, its a yellow card maximum.
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Old 24-01-2013, 10:09
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Eden Hazard "Intentionally kicked a ball boy"

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Yes...the Moose....I am sure Durham will have a field day at 4pm today.....


Stan Collymore, Michael Owen, Gareth Bale, Pienaar to name but a few, all tweeted basically saying Hazard shouldn't have done it but it was a massive over reaction and in the heat of the moment, you just want the ball.
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Old 24-01-2013, 10:09
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In what possible world does Hazard's salary have any relevance?
Perhaps he should have balanced that by saying "the millionaire footballer kicked the millionaires son"
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Old 24-01-2013, 10:11
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And that punishment deserved to be a kick in the ribs?

Time wasting has gone on for ages, and will continue to go on. Ball boys, players, managers all time waste. Why this particualt occasion has caused such outrage I don't know.
I think not rushing to give the bal lback if you are winning is to be expected...but to hide the ball away from the player? That isn't what a ball boy is supposed to do.

And stop with the 'deserving a kick in the ribs nonsense', it's all about intent. He was trying to get the ball, it was stupid and he deserved a red but there was no intent to cause harm whatsoever.
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Old 24-01-2013, 10:11
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And that punishment deserved to be a kick in the ribs?
Hazard toe-poked the ball from under him.

Watch the clip again, its not until he complains to the ref, trying to get hazard a card, that he notices that the cameras are on him and somehow clutches his ribs, puts his arm over his eves and pretends to cry!

The statements released clearly state that there was "no injury".
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