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13012013, 15:02  #76 
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That's really interesting  thank you for doing that!

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So, it seems like we pretty much have our 14 celebs.
Johnny Ball, 74, Mathematician ... He left formal education with two 'O' Levels, one in Mathematics and one in Geography. Typically crass BBC dumbing down. 
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Just thought I'd find this so I could see how we did. For those of you who had 2 guesses, only your first guess will count. Kimberley and Denise will be counted as correct whether they are in 2nd or 3rd on anyone's guess.
Here's how we all did: =1st  Val (Colin, Fern, Michael, Denise, Kimberley and Louis correct) = 6/14 =1st  Girlygiggler (Johnny, Jerry, Richard, Denise, Kimberley and Louis correct) = 6/14 3rd  Mystical123 (Fern, Michael, Denise, Kimberley and Louis correct) = 5/14 =4th  LittleMissJ (Jerry, Nicky, Dani and Denise correct) = 4/14 =4th  AuburnEnigma (Jerry, Dani, Kimberley and Louis correct) = 4/14 =4th  Damahepa (Colin, Michael, Dani and Kimberley correct) = 4/14 =4th  essexboyash (Johnny, Jerry, Sid and Denise correct) = 4/14 =4th  Clivefield (Johnny, Colin, Richard and Kimberley correct) = 4/14 =9th  IzzieStar (Jerry, Kimberley and Louis correct) = 3/14 =9th  AlliF (Jerry, Dani and Louis correct) = 3/14 =9th  rosco2010 (Johnny, Jerry and Kimberley correct) = 3/14 =9th  needsahotty87 (Sid, Fern and Victoria correct) = 3/14 =9th  adamcm (Colin, Victoria and Denise correct) = 3/14 =9th  Tiger Rose (Dani, Kimberley and Louis correct) = 3/14 =9th  allisonbm2 (Jerry, Dani and Kimberley correct) = 3/14 =9th  Dilly 1 (Johnny, Kimberley and Louis correct) = 3/14 =17th  cantos (Victoria and Dani correct) = 2/14 =17th  Richwood (Victoria and Denise correct) = 2/14 =19th  Stig (Victoria correct) = 1/14 =19th  pothuthic (Denise correct) = 1/14 =19th  kroshka (Louis correct) = 1/14 =19th  SWRD85 (Fern correct) = 1/14 =19th  CloneClown (Denise correct) = 1/14 =19th  Fudd (Denise correct) = 1/14 =25th  21stCenturyBoy: 0/14 =25th  yohinnchild: 0/14 =25th  ForreroRocher: 0/14 =25th  SaraV1308: 0/14 =25th  Order: 0/14 =25th  I've Got Class: 0/14 
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How did Johnny Ball with two O Levels in total according to Wikipedia become recognised as a "Mathematician"?

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Thanks The Auburn Enigma for totalling this up... Interesting to read now

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Because that's... sort of... you know... what he does?
I had never heard of Johnny Ball but Googling I find that Johnny Ball does what fourth formers used to call "Sums" before they moved onto Mathematics. Budding Mathematicians would have done Johnny Ball's summit in the field O Level in Maths in the fourth form before Additional maths AO level in the fifth form and then Mathematics and Advanced Mathematics at A level and then a degree and doctorate  some nine years plus study and research after they reached Johnny's O Level Maths. Ball is another one of life's charlatans. But "In the Kingdom of the blind the one eyed man is king". Being able to do basic sums is good and important. But that isn't mathematics. I weep for this country if Johnny Ball is regarded as one of Britain's Mathematicians. The future is indeed bleak and dumbed down. 
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How did Johnny Ball with two O Levels in total according to Wikipedia become recognised as a "Mathematician"?
He left formal education with two 'O' Levels, one in Mathematics and one in Geography. Typically crass BBC dumbing down. Quote:
Well I suppose it is like that unique British custom of calling washing machine mechanics "engineers" or even Katherine Jenkins an "opera singer".
I had never heard of Johnny Ball but Googling I find that Johnny Ball does what fourth formers used to call "Sums" before they moved onto Mathematics. Budding Mathematicians would have done Johnny Ball's summit in the field O Level in Maths in the fourth form before Additional maths AO level in the fifth form and then Mathematics and Advanced Mathematics at A level and then a degree and doctorate  some nine years plus study and research after they reached Johnny's O Level Maths. Ball is another one of life's charlatans. But "In the Kingdom of the blind the one eyed man is king". Being able to do basic sums is good and important. But that isn't mathematics. I weep for this country if Johnny Ball is regarded as one of Britain's Mathematicians. The future is indeed bleak and dumbed down. I wasn't ever an avid viewer of Johnny's shows when I was young but I did sometimes watch and they had more than just 'sums'  the shows included conundrums, puzzles and problem solving which could all come under maths and his tv shows were very popular and many people have said they gained an interest in maths and science because of him. I've watced some interveiws with him and as far as I'm aware I haven't seen him go along with being called a 'mathematician'  so maybe it's just the media again doing what they usually do in bigging 'celebrities' up  I know I'm sick to the back teeth of it and I'd be the first person to criticise celebs for misrepresenting themselves or going along with the hype but as far as I'm aware Johnny hasn't. 
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Sorry guys, I hadn't written his profession in the OP, I had pasted it from another thread at some point so that's all I really know.

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To be fair to Johnny Ball I don't think he has called himself a 'Mathematician'  In his wiki entry that you linked to they call him a tv personality and a 'populariser of mathematics'. I took a quick look at his website and that's what it says on his website too. Even on his strictly profile it just refers to him as a presenter on maths and science shows. There's no reason why somebody who didn't do well at school can't develop skills and interest in academic subjects later on in life.
I wasn't ever an avid viewer of Johnny's shows when I was young but I did sometimes watch and they had more than just 'sums'  the shows included conundrums, puzzles and problem solving which could all come under maths and his tv shows were very popular and many people have said they gained an interest in maths and science because of him. I've watced some interveiws with him and as far as I'm aware I haven't seen him go along with being called a 'mathematician'  so maybe it's just the media again doing what they usually do in bigging 'celebrities' up  I know I'm sick to the back teeth of it and I'd be the first person to criticise celebs for misrepresenting themselves or going along with the hype but as far as I'm aware Johnny hasn't. On BIB true but that just means the decade of study after O Level comes in the thirties or forties rather than earlier. 
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OK red rag induced rant over. And you have seen him perform so I'll go along with what you write.
On BIB true but that just means the decade of study after O Level comes in the thirties or forties rather than earlier. I think I remember reading that he studied maths recreationally  so I don't think he studied it formally after O'level but I think it's possible to still have an aptitude and skill for a subject even if you haven't studied it formally  I know they've had a winner of Mastermind who'd never been to university 
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i got 3 right.
im shocked i thought i got 0 
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