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Old 01-02-2013, 22:49
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Completely ridiculous :/

But then I suppose it's choosing between two punishments.

Seriously though, why aren't more people and civil liberty groups up in arms about this. If, and it's a big IF, we ever had a fascist state this could be used to attack opposition
If we ever had a fascist state, I think the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act would be the least of our worries!
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Old 01-02-2013, 23:07
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Personally, I would do everything I could to stop any business holding any information about me.

It sounds like Kindle is the worse E-reader to buy.
Seems a bit paranoid to me. It doesn't bother me one bit that Amazon remembers which books I have bought, or keeps a record of how far I have read in those books. Actually, I find it pretty convenient.

I am also guessing you don't have a Nectar card,
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Old 01-02-2013, 23:14
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I wouldn't be surprised if one day companies would stop selling hard drives to make us use cloud storage. That way governments would be able to easily spy on our data.
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Old 02-02-2013, 00:02
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I wouldn't be surprised if one day companies would stop selling hard drives to make us use cloud storage. That way governments would be able to easily spy on our data.
What makes you think they can't already
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Old 02-02-2013, 00:11
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Simple thing with amazon is as soon as you downloaded your music, just delete the file from their cloud service....May also stop buying CDs from amazon as well, I hear they are going rip the music from them and stick it on their cloud.
Saying that most of the stuff I buy is old.
You don't have the stuff on the cloud. Its just a purchase record to their catalogue.
So all you are doing is denying yourself access to the files.
Extremely unlikely they duplicate cloud files. Its exactly why the 'Match' your collection too. That way they do not use any cloud space.

On the subject of privacy, it does sound semi-controversial that a foreign government can access our documents.
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Old 02-02-2013, 00:22
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What makes you think they can't already
They gave us 8GB tablets to hype up the cloud.
Now they give us 128GB Flash in an 800 iPad.
Ipart from Archos I can't see many manufacturing choosing those new 5mm hard drives for tablets.

On the subject, it is rogue police that is worrying. The more they spy the more malpractice happens.
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Old 02-02-2013, 02:40
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Completely ridiculous :/

But then I suppose it's choosing between two punishments.

Seriously though, why aren't more people and civil liberty groups up in arms about this. If, and it's a big IF, we ever had a fascist state this could be used to attack opposition
New Labour enjoyed passing stupid laws that infringed on civil liberties. The Tories and Lib Dems used to speak out in Opposition... but now they're in Government I think they're just as bad.

Whip up fear of PAEDO-TERRORIST EVIL-DOERS and you can do anything...
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Old 02-02-2013, 12:31
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To think that the Government actually obeys the laws it inflicts on the rest of us is just wishful thinking.....Just because they have a law that says they can't spy on your cloud items doesn't mean they won't. It just means they won't be able to use it in court.
If we let the fears rule us I doubt we'd move forward in any sphere...
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Old 02-02-2013, 13:54
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I wouldn't be surprised if one day companies would stop selling hard drives to make us use cloud storage. That way governments would be able to easily spy on our data.
it will be a fair few years before that happens, hard drives or some other form of storage will be around for a while.
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Old 02-02-2013, 13:57
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You don't have the stuff on the cloud. Its just a purchase record to their catalogue.
So all you are doing is denying yourself access to the files.
Extremely unlikely they duplicate cloud files. Its exactly why the 'Match' your collection too. That way they do not use any cloud space.
You buy a MP3 from Amazon and it is stored on their cloud. they are also starting to store music from Cd that you buy from them, not in the UK yet, but it is starting in other countries.

On the subject of privacy, it does sound semi-controversial that a foreign government can access our documents.
It don't surprise me to be honest, I bet the EU also can do the same thing.
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Old 02-02-2013, 14:41
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Completely ridiculous :/
But then I suppose it's choosing between two punishments.
Seriously though, why aren't more people and civil liberty groups up in arms about this.
And it is left to the Torygraph to do the reporting.

In the old days at the Guardian, you would expect this to be front page news.
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Old 02-02-2013, 19:20
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Remember where the data is actually stored will be under that nations jurisdiction and if they have offices in other countries they will have to respect those countries laws as well so if they have an office in the USA they'll have to obey all laws in the US of A
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Old 03-02-2013, 16:25
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And it is left to the Torygraph to do the reporting.

In the old days at the Guardian, you would expect this to be front page news.
Perhaps because it's no big issue.
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