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Old 03-02-2013, 13:44
Prince Monalulu
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As a broadly socialist thinker, and fan of TG, I have no idea what you're talking about.

It might upset the Greens, but my pleasure isn't increased by other people's annoyance.
Even George Monbiot said this when having a go at Top Gear for their coverage of electric cars.
Yes, this is an entertainment programme, yes it's larking about, and sometimes it's very funny. But none of this exempts it from the BBC's guidelines and the duty not to fake the facts.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...5/top-gear-bbc

I suspect there are more column inches about Top Gear in the Daily Mail compared to the Guardian, too.

I don't watch TG all that much, bit bored of their scripted larking about now and their various track races (Buses, MPV) are badly filmed IMO.
Cut, cut, cut, close up shots I'd like to actually see some racing and relative track positions.
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Old 03-02-2013, 14:11
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The previous post 'Prince Monalulu' references the Guardians article on the Tesla libel cae against Top Gear. They lost. In fact they made two attempts and lost both of them.
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Old 03-02-2013, 14:14
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What laughable nonsense!
Not at all. No need to be rude. It did not look like he was driving and commentating at the same time. I am entitled to my opinion
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Old 03-02-2013, 15:05
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Even George Monbiot said this when having a go at Top Gear for their coverage of electric cars.
Yes, this is an entertainment programme, yes it's larking about, and sometimes it's very funny. But none of this exempts it from the BBC's guidelines and the duty not to fake the facts.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...5/top-gear-bbc

I suspect there are more column inches about Top Gear in the Daily Mail compared to the Guardian, too.

I don't watch TG all that much, bit bored of their scripted larking about now and their various track races (Buses, MPV) are badly filmed IMO.
Cut, cut, cut, close up shots I'd like to actually see some racing and relative track positions.
You'd be a bit silly to base your decision to buy or not buy an electric car based on a TG article.

It is an entertainment show, that can be quite fun (and would be a lot more fun if they could read a script without sounding like they are reading a script)
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Old 03-02-2013, 15:34
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You'd be a bit silly to base your decision to buy or not buy an electric car based on a TG article.

It is an entertainment show, that can be quite fun (and would be a lot more fun if they could read a script without sounding like they are reading a script)
'The stupid are always with us'
Well, as we all know some people aren't too bright and quote tabloid sourced nonsense as fact, because it fits their point of view.
No doubt there are those who'll use TG's experience with the Tesla or Nissan Leaf as reasons why electric cars are cack.
It'll stop being a piece of entertainment and become a fact, because it suits.

Hey ho TG's too much 'entertainment' for me, feels too scripted/manufactured.
I'm not one for Supercars on the whole, highly strung toys that break a lot IMO.

Going OT, I've just tried to remember Ferrari's product line, 458 comes to mind, but that's just a number, I probably wouldn't recognise one vs another model.
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Old 03-02-2013, 17:26
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So you want a motoring programme to have one presenter who does not drive?
Now you've got it.

The whole idea, is to have someone looking at the vehicle in question purely from the POV of a passenger. Often a lot different than the driver, but also a valuable POV for any manufacturer. More importantly for us, the viewers, it would be great fun.
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Old 03-02-2013, 17:27
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Even George Monbiot said this when having a go at Top Gear for their coverage of electric cars.
Yes, this is an entertainment programme, yes it's larking about, and sometimes it's very funny. But none of this exempts it from the BBC's guidelines and the duty not to fake the facts.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...5/top-gear-bbc

I suspect there are more column inches about Top Gear in the Daily Mail compared to the Guardian, too.

I don't watch TG all that much, bit bored of their scripted larking about now and their various track races (Buses, MPV) are badly filmed IMO.
Cut, cut, cut, close up shots I'd like to actually see some racing and relative track positions.

Of course, for all the protests about the show, it did lead the council to actually provide more charge points - it was a force for good.
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Old 03-02-2013, 17:29
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Now you've got it.

The whole idea, is to have someone looking at the vehicle in question purely from the POV of a passenger. Often a lot different than the driver, but also a valuable POV for any manufacturer.
Passengers don't tend to buy the cars though, and they rarely have much relevant input into any purchase.

More importantly for us, the viewers, it would be great fun.
As a viewer, I would find it tedious.
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Old 03-02-2013, 17:30
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What the hell are they going to say, really, what?
Do you have no imagination whatsoever?

How comfy is the ride?
Is the driver any good?
Is there enough to do while being driven?
Plus 101 other questions from the passenger POV.

It's the one area that, mum's excepted, the show consistently ignores. Yet, it could be argued that at least three quarters of the cars they show have room for 4 peeps. So passenger POV is 3-1.
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Old 03-02-2013, 17:35
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Passengers don't tend to buy the cars though, and they rarely have much relevant input into any purchase.
But they do have a lot of input after purchase, ranting on at the buyer/ driver for not considering this or that feature. A few girlfriend/ wife/ children wise tips could, IMHO, do nothing but help sales and satisfaction with the product.

As a viewer, I would find it tedious.
What, even if the passenger turned out to be someone who consistently told Clarkeson that the tyres would fit in his gob, or joked about the Hamster seeing over the steering wheel, or told Captain Slow to speed up before they died of old age.
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Old 03-02-2013, 17:41
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Do you have no imagination whatsoever?

How comfy is the ride?
probably the same as that of the driver

Is the driver any good?
It's the car being reviewed, not the driver (and no-one would be able to "buy" the TG driver as an optional accessory anyway)

Is there enough to do while being driven?
What's that got to do with the car? The passenger reads a book, listens to the radio or watches a film or something on a tablet,.

Although many times I have heard the presenters remarking upon the DVD player, speakers in the rear, separate heat settings for the passengers, fold-out trays in the rear, legroom in the rear, seating arrangements in MPVs etc.
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Old 03-02-2013, 17:43
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But they do have a lot of input after purchase, ranting on at the buyer/ driver for not considering this or that feature. A few girlfriend/ wife/ children wise tips could, IMHO, do nothing but help sales and satisfaction with the product.
TG is a car entertainment programme, not a marital harmony programme. And if the buyer of a car does not feel that his/her spouse's thoughts should be relevant to the purchase, and gets grief afterwards, that's his/her problem to deal with, not Top Gear's.
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Old 03-02-2013, 17:50
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Do you have no imagination whatsoever?

How comfy is the ride?
Is the driver any good?
Is there enough to do while being driven?
Plus 101 other questions from the passenger POV.

It's the one area that, mum's excepted, the show consistently ignores. Yet, it could be argued that at least three quarters of the cars they show have room for 4 peeps. So passenger POV is 3-1.
Oh no, how dull. Ignored for a reason. We'd be back to "Driven" and their tedious tests to mark every car out of 100
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Old 03-02-2013, 19:05
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Do you have no imagination whatsoever?

How comfy is the ride?
Is the driver any good?
Is there enough to do while being driven?
Plus 101 other questions from the passenger POV.

It's the one area that, mum's excepted, the show consistently ignores. Yet, it could be argued that at least three quarters of the cars they show have room for 4 peeps. So passenger POV is 3-1.
I know you're finding your little joke/gee up amusing, but I'd be surprised if anyone else finds it amusing.

Hey ho I won't be watching tonight, something on BBC4 interests me.
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Old 03-02-2013, 19:11
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I know you're finding your little joke/gee up amusing, but I'd be surprised if anyone else finds it amusing.

Hey ho I won't be watching tonight, something on BBC4 interests me.
I do but I've no idea what you're all banging on about TBH. anyway 48 mins to go
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Old 03-02-2013, 20:04
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Oh that Aston Martin is sex on wheels
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Old 03-02-2013, 20:08
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Noticed it started well before the advertised time of 20:00. Just saying...
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Old 03-02-2013, 20:13
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Lovely lady behind Richard Hammond
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Old 03-02-2013, 20:14
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I don't see the point in cars that do 150 or 200 or whatever mph, when the speed limit is 70 mph.
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Old 03-02-2013, 20:14
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Lovely lady behind Richard Hammond
There's actually some half decent male totty in the audience as well for once
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Old 03-02-2013, 20:19
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Lovely lady behind Richard Hammond
She was fine almost as nice as the Aston
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Old 03-02-2013, 20:26
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That sat nav lady was lovely
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Old 03-02-2013, 20:26
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Say nav was awesome and that road ha great idea
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Old 03-02-2013, 20:27
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just when I was Missing

" Last of the Sumer Wine "

its revamped .and back on sunday nights.

ta.
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Old 03-02-2013, 20:29
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Back on the phone to the sat nav lady, "I'm been attacked by fighter planes !!!"
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