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Old 03-02-2013, 16:57
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First rule of donation; Don't tell everyone you've donated. Clearly he's fishing for an OBE. There's probably footballers out there who've donated to charity and kept it shut whilst David runs straight to the press.
If he was eager for an award wouldn't he be donating the money to a British charity rather than jolly foreigners?

Maybe he's hoping for a French Legion of Honour.
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Old 03-02-2013, 18:38
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I agree; lots of famous people do a lot for charity but they don't shout about it.
That's true

I have never disliked Beckham but have also never understood, and been bored stiff by the obsession over him - however I agree with your other points!

I'd like to think more high earners might be inspired by this beautiful gesture.

Very, very impressed with David for doing this. Classy man.
Gospel of Matthew...Jesus speaking

6:1 “Be careful not to display your righteousness merely to be seen by people. Otherwise you have no reward with your Father in heaven.
6:2 Thus whenever you do charitable giving, do not blow a trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in synagogues and on streets so that people will praise them. I tell you the truth, they have their reward.
6:3 But when you do your giving, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing,
6:4 So that your gift may be in secret and your Father, who sees in secret, will reward you."

That's his Sainthood scuppered then
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Old 03-02-2013, 18:59
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I really despise the amount of cynicism some people give when someone actually does something good. Becks is a high profile sportsman and so it was inevitible the clauses of his contract would be made public in some way.

For all those saying that he's not actually parting with anything he has enough to retire and could just spend the time with his kids. The fact that he's not doing that plus giving the money to charity speaks measures about him. I think he's setting a fantastic example to his kids not to take anything for granted.

The people that are probably having a go at him were the same ones berating Gary Barlow despite all the Charity work publicised and unpublicised he's done. Stop being so damn cynical it's a shame more Celebrities can't be like this.
Very well said!

It's a bit sad, that charitable effort like this gets people complaining. And whatever anyone thinks about football and the players' salaries, they do have to work hard, there is really no denying that.
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Old 03-02-2013, 19:18
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I don't think he's fishing for an honour.

He will get an OBE & more in time if never appears in the papers, magazines or on TV ever again.

Remember, this is a guy who was awarded a lifetime achievement award for services to football at the age of 35 whilst still playing football.
First rule of donation; Don't tell everyone you've donated. Clearly he's fishing for an OBE. There's probably footballers out there who've donated to charity and kept it shut whilst David runs straight to the press.
Get your facts right.

He already has an OBE, he's had it since 2003!
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Old 03-02-2013, 21:20
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Sigh, so now a man can't give without receiving stick.

So what if he told the world about it I am sure it would have gotten out anyway... Some singers actors etc don't even do this. Any charity is good charity homegrown or not, he hasn't spent that much time in the UK recently.

It would be like telling BONO to stop helping those African kids and start cleaning up dublin... its silly charity is charity.

I for one salute him for what he's doing he could be selfish and line his pockets and his kids kids pockets for years to come but instead he is giving it away.
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Old 03-02-2013, 21:48
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His salary is donated to charity but I wouldnt be suprised if he gets share of profits from the merchandise they sell,golden touch!Everything isnt always clean cut!
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Old 03-02-2013, 21:51
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His salary is donated to charity but I wouldnt be suprised if he gets share of profits from the merchandise they sell,golden touch!Everything isnt always clean cut!
yup he has a nice little merchandise deal sewn up and the profits will make that 3 million or so look like small change .

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#axzz2JkLtr4ca
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Old 03-02-2013, 22:00
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It seems strange that people are being so cynical but then again, this is DS so I'm not totally suprised. To be honest, it doesn't matter his motivations or thinking behind it. At the end of the day, it's a decent thing to do and a charity benefits from it.
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Old 03-02-2013, 22:16
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It seems strange that people are being so cynical but then again, this is DS so I'm not totally suprised. To be honest, it doesn't matter his motivations or thinking behind it. At the end of the day, it's a decent thing to do and a charity benefits from it.
The giving to charity is a good thing of course, but I think people have a problem with the big hoo-ha with which it was announced. No need for it, he could have done it without the fanfare, but as I posted ^, it was supposedly Victoria's idea, and we know she loves publicity.
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Old 04-02-2013, 04:01
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Not so classy IMO to announce it at a Press Conference! YUCK
I would usually agree that celebrities who use charity to boost their profile or to seek better PR for themselves are awful (it's usually z-listers or "personalities" who do this) but I think when it's someone like David Beckham the gesture is from the heart, and maybe by going public about it he's hoping to inspire others to follow suit?

I just can't think badly of someone of Beckham's status doing something like this. It's a brilliant thing to do and I think some are far too cynical. Like I said, I know there are celebs/zelebs who use charity for their own ends and I hate that too but I get no vibes whatsoever that this is what is happening here.
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Old 04-02-2013, 08:24
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I would usually agree that celebrities who use charity to boost their profile or to seek better PR for themselves are awful (it's usually z-listers or "personalities" who do this) but I think when it's someone like David Beckham the gesture is from the heart, and maybe by going public about it he's hoping to inspire others to follow suit?

I just can't think badly of someone of Beckham's status doing something like this. It's a brilliant thing to do and I think some are far too cynical. Like I said, I know there are celebs/zelebs who use charity for their own ends and I hate that too but I get no vibes whatsoever that this is what is happening here.
Well slap me on the back and call me cynical.

(Along with quite a few other FM's)
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Old 04-02-2013, 08:51
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Seems some are looking at David's boules....

David Beckham stands to make millions from football shirts bearing his name which cost just £3.50 to make but which are being sold for £96, it has been revealed.

Two days after Beckham signed, PSG were last night allegedly trying to broker a £110m, five-year deal with Emirates Airline, prompting rumblings from cynics that Beckham, 37, has only been brought to the French capital to act as a cheerleader rather than actually play football.

It was revealed yesterday Beckham is being lined up as a player-coach in the Qatar Stars League later this year.

Qataris own PSG and want to use Beckham as a figurehead for the Gulf state's hosting of the 2012 World Cup.
Could the 'giveaway' have been to appease French fans being asked to pay for an overpriced shirt?
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Old 04-02-2013, 09:00
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Seems are looking at David's boules....


Could the 'giveaway' have been to appease French fans being asked to pay for an overpriced shirt?
I already posted that yesterday.

And yes, it's my belief it is. Anything for money is Les Beckhams mantra.


ETA - he might be giving his salary to charity, but apparently he's going to make millions from a shirt which costs £3.60 to make, and sells for £96. Does he look quite so charitable now?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#axzz2Jp9psrou
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Old 04-02-2013, 12:02
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I would usually agree that celebrities who use charity to boost their profile or to seek better PR for themselves are awful (it's usually z-listers or "personalities" who do this) but I think when it's someone like David Beckham the gesture is from the heart, and maybe by going public about it he's hoping to inspire others to follow suit?

I just can't think badly of someone of Beckham's status doing something like this. It's a brilliant thing to do and I think some are far too cynical. Like I said, I know there are celebs/zelebs who use charity for their own ends and I hate that too but I get no vibes whatsoever that this is what is happening here.
I'm sorry but I find that view quite strange... You don't like z-listers using charities as publicity stunts, but when Beckham does, that's alright, because he's David Beckham

There is no difference really and if anything Beckham looks worse for doing such an act as he has many more ways of generating publicity. There was no need to go public unless he really wanted desperate publicity or was told to do it.

If that view makes me cynical, then so be it
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Old 04-02-2013, 12:30
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Far better for the charity to be receiving this considerable sum of money than not receiving it, and for that reason it can only be a good thing, but everything Beckham does seems to be carried out under the spotlight of press conferences and carefully orchestrated media gatherings.

I'm very bored with the Beckham Circus. The press cannot help but continue to fawn over him.

He is still managing to juggle the 'Mr Nice Guy' act with his insatiable and really rather astute appetite for the golden glow of the spotlight.
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Old 04-02-2013, 12:45
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The French taxation system means that if he is paid a salary in France, then he becomes liable for tax at 75% on his total worldwide earnings as well as social security charges of up to 20%. I Do not blame him for making his salary over to a charity but it is not quite as benevolent as it is made to appear!
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Old 04-02-2013, 12:57
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The French taxation system means that if he is paid a salary in France, then he becomes liable for tax at 75% on his total worldwide earnings as well as social security charges of up to 20%. I Do not blame him for making his salary over to a charity but it is not quite as benevolent as it is made to appear!
Especially when you factor in the money he will make from the tacky merchandise and image rights which will be taxed in a lower bracket... the fans of his seem to forget this.

Beckham is quite a hard, calculating individual behind the facade. I wonder what he likes more.... fame or money-making?
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Old 04-02-2013, 12:58
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He's not actually giving anything to charity , Paris St German are. If he wanted to make a charity gesture why didn't he donate the salary he would have been paid by Paris St German to charity out of his own money, and not got the football club to pay anything out .
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Old 04-02-2013, 14:21
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I can't help being cynical!

He was a free agent, could have announced at any time he was joining PSG, but chose to announce it on deadline day...where it will be given the most publicity...and again....announce you are joining PSG..ok...but why the need to tell everyone you are donating 5 months' salary?

Plenty of footballers out there give to charity all the time and you rarely hear about it, only fans of the respective clubs get to find out and only some times at that.

Of course, glad children are getting the money, but wish there wasn't an ulterior motive, like there always is with Brand Beckham.
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