[dathomson91]

hello do you think the new BT Sports channels will be availble on freeview (around £10 -£15 a month subscription) hope so
i live in Beverley, East yorkshire where you can't get BT Vision because of KC(Kingston Communications dominant hold of Beverley,Hull etc.

[jj20x]

Originally Posted by dathomson91

hello do you think the new BT Sports channels will be availble on freeview (around £10 -£15 a month subscription) hope so
i live in Beverley, East yorkshire where you can't get BT Vision because of KC(Kingston Communications dominant hold of Beverley,Hull etc.

Probably not, BT appear to be moving away from the DTT platform and towards IPTV.

[DragonQ]

Indeed, you will likely need a YouView box, or maybe even a BT YouView box (or Sky/Virgin).

[VisionMan1]

Originally Posted by dathomson91

hello do you think the new BT Sports channels will be availble on freeview (around £10 -£15 a month subscription) hope so
i live in Beverley, East yorkshire where you can't get BT Vision because of KC(Kingston Communications dominant hold of Beverley,Hull etc.

Hi,

Kingston Communications offer YouView too -

http://www.kc.co.uk/home/tv

But I don't know if they will have access to the sports channels. I suppose you could always ring them to ask.

[albertd]

Originally Posted by dathomson91

hello do you think the new BT Sports channels will be availble on freeview (around £10 -£15 a month subscription)

It cannot be on Freeview if there is a subscription. By definition, to be on Freeview it must be free.

[DragonQ]

Originally Posted by albertd

It cannot be on Freeview if there is a subscription. By definition, to be on Freeview it must be free.

It is assumed that he meant DTT.

[VisionMan1]

Originally Posted by albertd

It cannot be on Freeview if there is a subscription. By definition, to be on Freeview it must be free.

Freeview channels 34, 41 & 42 are all Sports subscription channels, at the moment. And there are others too.

Edit - As DragonQ says - DTT.

[albertd]

Originally Posted by DragonQ

It is assumed that he meant DTT.

Yes, that is precisely my point.

[jj20x]

Originally Posted by albertd

Yes, that is precisely my point.

You would have more of a point if Freeview was anything more than a brand name marketed by DTV Services Limited.

People refer to DTT as Freeview just as they refer to their vacuum cleaners as Hoovers.

[VisionMan1]

Originally Posted by jj20x

You would have more of a point if Freeview was anything more than a brand name marketed by DTV Services Limited.

People refer to DTT as Freeview just as they refer to their vacuum cleaners as Hoovers.

Top post.

[ashjf]

Originally Posted by VisionMan1

Hi,

Kingston Communications offer YouView too -

http://www.kc.co.uk/home/tv

But I don't know if they will have access to the sports channels. I suppose you could always ring them to ask.

They don't seem to offer anything extra with it, £12 a month extra on top of your phone & broadband bundle & all you get is the FREE iplayer, itv player, 4OD & Demand 5, how can they charge £12 per month for that?!?

[VisionMan1]

Originally Posted by ashjf

They don't seem to offer anything extra with it, £12 a month extra on top of your phone & broadband bundle & all you get is the FREE iplayer, itv player, 4OD & Demand 5, how can they charge £12 per month for that?!?

Now that I've read it, I agree. £12 per month x 24 = £288.

And at retail you can buy a box now for less than £250!

Sorry for suggesting it.

[grahamb676]

Originally Posted by dathomson91

hello do you think the new BT Sports channels will be availble on freeview (around £10 -£15 a month subscription) hope so
i live in Beverley, East yorkshire where you can't get BT Vision because of KC(Kingston Communications dominant hold of Beverley,Hull etc.

ESPN is provided by top up tv on the DTT platform, so they may also decide to pick up the BT channel.
I can't help but feel it will go the same way as Setanta and ITV Football did a few years ago and go bust.

[freetoview33]

I don't think ESPN will be able to survive and will head the same way as Setanta it is a shame Setanta went under. Just hope BT can survive it needs a company with VERY deep pockets to take on Sky and BT might just be able to if they improve there game.

Part of me thinks BT would want Top Up on board to try pull in extra viewers and encourage more viewers. But can Top up survive? It needs sports to keep going and if BT does pull ss1 and 2 from DTT or at least not letting Top Up have them I really think it won't be able to carry on.

[Rmcdowell]

BT own the capacity on Freeview for channels 41/42 on which they broadcast Sky Sports 1/2. I'd be surprised if they didn't drop the Sky channels in place of their own channels.

[stuntmaster]

Originally Posted by albertd

Yes, that is precisely my point.

this is a the problem

many think freeview must 100% be free, theyre right too! however!

Freeview is merely a service that runs on DTT, top-up TV and ESPN are separate services that run on DTT, not Freeview.

There seems to be a strange understanding by some, that channels must launch on DTT, and they think because it says freeview it must be free.

Oh those endless threads about new channels and people saying sky1.....

[VisionMan1]

Originally Posted by stuntmaster

this is a the problem

many think freeview must 100% be free, theyre right too! however!

Freeview is merely a service that runs on DTT, top-up TV and ESPN are separate services that run on DTT, not Freeview.

There seems to be a strange understanding by some, that channels must launch on DTT, and they think because it says freeview it must be free.

Oh those endless threads about new channels and people saying sky1.....

Agree. But, query - do TUTV have the ability to access Multicast IPTV channels? As that's how they will be 'broadcast' over TT's and BT's BB networks.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by ashjf

They don't seem to offer anything extra with it, £12 a month extra on top of your phone & broadband bundle & all you get is the FREE iplayer, itv player, 4OD & Demand 5, how can they charge £12 per month for that?!?

Due to different technical standards in the KC area there's no LLU, so substantially less competition and hence the ability of KC to charge this price.
The only possible benefits which I don't pretend are worth £12pm, are:

• Broadband usage ugraded to the next level, in some cases this means unlimited.
• Lifetime warranty with the caveat "is applicable only during the term of taking the TV service with us." I guess this means whilst still paying out £12pm.

Meanwhile,in Jersey, JT is giving YouView boxes free to all new broadband subscribers. http://www.jtglobal.com/Jersey/Perso...ducts/YouView/