[IzzyS]

Originally Posted by MC_Satan

Tenuous maybe?

Yes lol

Originally Posted by Silent No More

Here we go....



http://news.sky.com/story/1048282/lo...st-arrest-made

Seems this is in relation to the Elm Guest House child abuse investigation

Two arrests in Elm Guest House child abuse investigation http://itv.co/XN2I9b via @lucymanning

Source:- https://twitter.com/itvnews/statuses/299095778511687680

The allegations are about abuse at a children's home & guest house. Further allegations suggest prominent people were using Elm guest house.

Source:- https://twitter.com/lucymanning/stat...95850293018624

Elm Guest House abuse arrests in part after info from @tom_watson Not actual allegation he raised in Commons but prompted more info on abuse

Source:- https://twitter.com/lucymanning/stat...96754396205056

Ex youth worker Mary Moss has told ITV News she believes 1980s Elm Guest house abuse investigation shut down due to prominent names involved

Source:- https://twitter.com/lucymanning/stat...98362769207298

[Keyser Soze]

That list that was going round needs a couple of ticks on it. More to come? Let's hope so.

[Electra]

Are the arrests not likely to be the people who owned the guest house at the time?

ETA - Just seen this

Children's home boss arrested in child abuse investigation
by Lucy Manning - UK Editor
John Stingemore, former deputy head of the Grafton Close children's home, is believed to be one of the men arrested by police investigating alleged child abuse at Elm Guest House.

http://www.itv.com/news/story/2013-0...ation-arrests/

[Sad_BB_Addict]

Paraic O'Brien ‏@paraicobrien
@Channel4News exclusive tonight on #elmhouse guesthouse & #fernbridge (in partnership with @ExaroNews) Worth a watch.

[Sad_BB_Addict]

Elm Guest House latest
http://www.itv.com/news/story/2013-0...ation-arrests/

[skp20040]

Originally Posted by MC_Satan

I do think celebs with wandering hands (with adults) should not be part of the same investigation. This is for two reasons. One, it distracts from the investigation into child abuse and two, while they may be creeps, they are not necessarily child abusers.

And then the media could drop the phrase "arrested by Savile polcie" (or similar ) which people assume means paedophilia is involved.

Whilst an adult who has been groped has every right to complain it has no place in the same investigation as paedophile abuse even if it is called "others"

[Sad_BB_Addict]

First two arrests in Richmond paedophile ring
http://davidhencke.wordpress.com/201...edophile-ring/

[Electra]

Originally Posted by Sad_BB_Addict

First two arrests in Richmond paedophile ring
http://davidhencke.wordpress.com/201...edophile-ring/

The second person is a 66-year-old Roman Catholic priest who was arrested in Norfolk.

Well, well, well.

[Sad_BB_Addict]

The Independent on the arrests
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...e-8482864.html

[CRM]

Originally Posted by Electra

The second person is a 66-year-old Roman Catholic priest who was arrested in Norfolk.

Well, well, well.

Not exactly a shock, a Roman Catholic priest being a paedophile.

[Electra]

Originally Posted by CRM

Not exactly a shock, a Roman Catholic priest being a paedophile.

Indeed.

[Linda_Danvers]

Originally Posted by CRM

Not exactly a shock, a Roman Catholic priest being a paedophile.

Or any preacher for that matter. Recently we had two arrests of protestant ministers for abusing children. Not that catholics priests are much better, but I can't help but notice they have more press.

[inquirer64]

Let's hope that all involved with child sex abuse are arrested considering the police are investigating allegations of paedophilia by politicians and other members of the establishment in the 1980s.

[KidPoker]

Originally Posted by Electra

The second person is a 66-year-old Roman Catholic priest who was arrested in Norfolk.

Well, well, well.

If you researched those who visited it isn't just priests but former Cabinet Ministers, MPs, politicians from all ideologies - Fascism, Socialism, Republicanism, and then you have Judges of the Crown, high ranking police officers.

No well, well, well there?

Its quite similar to the disgusting paedophile actions at the Kincora Boy's School frequently visited by Church of Ireland and other Protestant Ministers. Very similar cases.

Well, well, well. what does that say about organised religion?

[Asmo]

Originally Posted by KidPoker

Well, well, well. what does that say about organised religion?

"Do as we say, not as we do!" maybe.

[skp20040]

Originally Posted by KidPoker

If you researched those who visited it isn't just priests but former Cabinet Ministers, MPs, politicians from all ideologies - Fascism, Socialism, Republicanism, and then you have Judges of the Crown, high ranking police officers.

No well, well, well there?

Its quite similar to the disgusting paedophile actions at the Kincora Boy's School frequently visited by Church of Ireland and other Protestant Ministers. Very similar cases.

Well, well, well. what does that say about organised religion?

It says that some people will use it to hide what they really are in what was a respected institution ( and sadly their bosses chose to hide it to protect their institution and got it very very wrong ) , just as many others hide in other institutions as we have seen. But I wouldn't tar everyone with the same brush , for every bad one there are dozens of good .

[inquirer64]

Originally Posted by skp20040

It says that some people will use it to hide what they really are in what was a respected institution ( and sadly their bosses chose to hide it to protect their institution and got it very very wrong ) , just as many others hide in other institutions as we have seen. But I wouldn't tar everyone with the same brush , for every bad one there are dozens of good .

I wish I could believe that.

Time and again, if corruption of any sort is not rooted out, it spreads. When people have financial pressures (family, mortgage, etc), and do not want to risk losing their jobs, they do not blow the whistle.

Those that do blow the whistle are often ignored. If they continue rocking the boat they are shown the door.

[jamtamara]

Originally Posted by Asmo

"Do as we say, not as we do!" maybe.

And what it says about politics, similarly, is that all politicians are not paedophiles but some may be.

[Sad_BB_Addict]

ExaroNews‏ @ExaroNews

Exaro working with @Channel4News and @paraicobrien on package on Elm Guest House and #Fernbridge in tonight’s programme.

[Sad_BB_Addict]

Crikey. ITV London News has Elm Guest House as its second item. The MSM are getting interested now there's been some arrests.
No new information though.

[luckylegs]

http://news.sky.com/story/1048282/ca...o-men-arrested

All I can say is at last lets see some proper investigation into child abuse, cover ups or anything else. Its about time these kids got some justice.

Celebrity gropers are all very well but thats a whole other kettle of fish.

[Black Velvet]

Originally Posted by luckylegs

http://news.sky.com/story/1048282/ca...o-men-arrested

All I can say is at last lets see some proper investigation into child abuse, cover ups or anything else. Its about time these kids got some justice.

Celebrity gropers are all very well but thats a whole other kettle of fish.

Could not agree more.

[Keyser Soze]

Originally Posted by Sad_BB_Addict

Crikey. ITV London News has Elm Guest House as its second item. The MSM are getting interested now there's been some arrests.
No new information though.

At least it's being talked about. They mentioned 'big names' and showed the guestbooks (albeit blurred so you couldn't see those names).

Be interesting to see what happens next.

[StrmChaserSteve]

outraged

Celebrity Saudi preacher 'raped' and tortured his five-year-old daughter to death
He's paid money, now free from jail after only serving a few months

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#axzz2JweSGQcI

money talks

Sadly, i think money is also a reason why prominent politicians, and other wealthy people will never be brought to Justice, as a result of child abuse investigations

Also, why Savile got away with what he did for so long
People did not talk, as they knew he was famous, and had plenty of money, to hire the best lawyers, and sue, should anyone spill the beans

[Sad_BB_Addict]

C4 News item starting now.
8.35 on C4+1 if you missed it!

First time I've seen Mary Moss being interviewed I think.

They've talked to a policeman who was on the original raid. He said they were briefed beforehand that there might be "high-profile" people there.