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Old 17-02-2013, 15:57
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The first 3 that stick out for me are Ashley McKenzie, Louis Smith and Anthony Ogogo!

Do you have any opinions or personal stories about these athletes?

Ashley Mckenzie

He decided to join Celebrity Big Brother 2012, why he was actually chosen I have no real idea. My guess is his background.

Ashley has OCD and ADHD combined and was expeled from school, went to a special needs school and even ended up in Young Institution.

He went to lose at the Olympics which was always going to get the trolls hunger to insult. Plus his time in the CBB house wasn't amazing to some.

His almost stalking of model Rhian Sugden was frowned upon as he just didn't seem to understand being rejected and handled it all wrong. Some say he was teased?

His age was 23 at the time I believe but he seemed to be treated like a baby and acted immaturely for his age.

His relationship with MC Harvey was the biggest killer for him as he may as well have been a dog on a lead and seemed easily influenced! Harvey himself in my opinion was not very nice anyway!

Ashley incoherent slang doesn't help matters either!

His BBC documentary was very interesting to watch and I really enjoyed it! He seemed to keep his ADHD well controlled in the house considering he had to give up his pills for his sport? Did he have pills in the CBB house?

On the positive side we have got to see the athlete butt naked and see that he has a hose pipes in his pants when getting his morning wood on!

Some would say he has come a long way and is a good representative of GB, what do you think?

http://i.smimg.net/13/04/ashley-mckenzie.jpg - Ashley modelling for The Gay Times!

http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/...mhbo2_500j.jpg - Ashley in his BBC documentary

http://i4.mirror.co.uk/incoming/arti...ome+judo+moves - Aslhey and Harvey's Bromance on CBB

http://www.teamgb.com/sites/default/...392285782A.jpg - Ashley representing GB at the Olympics promo!

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma...xjd0o3_500.png - The famous morning wood picture!

Louis Smith

Has starred in Strictly Come Dancing and went on to win it! A good achievement really.

However due to that appearance all the negatives soon turned to negativity (as Britain's are excellent at doing aka moaning). He get's accused of being a cheat because of his past background in Gymnastics, he get's accused of winning for being a pretty boy, he gets accused of being arrogant and boring at the same time and the biggest of all is that he gets accused of being homosexual.

This opportunity has brought him photo shoot deals which means he gets to pose naked in gay magazines and so on... well we can't have that because he is ugly apparently. Slightly cruel?

Plus he is now the face of Subway EAT FRESH! Well done!

If he is gay then why does it matter? Why does that overshadow all his extremely hard work over the years to represent us and get some medals in the process!

Finally he has maanged to bag an MBE from the Queen! Biggest achievement of all surely?! Even though some responded with "What has he done to get one", surely pure jealously!?

Personally I think he is a great role model and he to has overcome severe ADHD and is not bad to look at either!

http://www.englishgymnastics.org.uk/...ouis_smith.JPG - Training for the Olympics at a young age

http://autisticson.files.wordpress.c...th_2812529.jpg - Louis wins his medal for GB!

http://www.voice-online.co.uk/sites/...OUIS_SMITH.jpg - Awarded a MBE by The Queen!

http://www.heatworld.com/images/1145...12/LOUIS_1.jpg - Naked in photo shoot!

http://www.thedrum.com/uploads/style...%20Smith_0.jpg - Subway!

Anthony Ogogo

This boxer has actually starred in Big brother (Big Brother Hijack) in the past and used it as a way to get to the big time.

His behavior in the house was questionable at times some might say but recently he has also become the fact of Subway which is a good thing yes?

He recently starred in SPLASH which was seen by some as car crash tv!

Personally I don't know to much about him.

Do they need to concentrate BACK to being athletes and helping others or should they continue to have their fame time and let off steam after all that hard work?

http://www.edp24.co.uk/polopoly_fs/n...2912749741.jpg - With his gold

http://i.pinger.pl/pgr482/eb17c38d00...umbnailjpg.jpg - Photo shoot

http://pictures.thisisbigbrother.com...k-day2-018.jpg - In CBB Hijack

http://www.mccgp.co.uk/marketing-new.../05/subway.jpg - Subway Advert!

Is Ashley immature and kind of creepy?
Is Louis gay or just a cruel snipe?
Does Anthony have a bigger package then his rival Jake from Benidorm
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Old 17-02-2013, 16:02
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Anthony has just turned pro so he must be trying to get his head down in his sport.

I think the Louis abuse is very unfair and people complain of his MBE when he's more deserving for what he's done for his sport than certain gold medallists have. (BBC Im talking about Nicola Adams and her "historic but really good timing" gold here).

And Im not sure who the other one is.
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Old 17-02-2013, 16:08
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I think it's good for them. Would rather see sportspeople in the press for good things than D list zelebs like the Made in Chelsea lot.
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Old 17-02-2013, 16:42
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Can't speak for the others as I haven't followed them, but I don't think Louis Smith has done anything to embarrass himself (or GB) at all! Quite the opposite!

- 1st gymnast to win a medal for GB in 100 years in 2008
- Captain of GB team that won an unexpected team medal in 2012
- Silver medal (that many agree should have been Gold) in 2012
- He's the reason the sport of gymnastics has much more funding than ever before and is now over-subscribed with aspiring kids
- Winner of Strictly Come Dancing by a reported very wide margin of the public vote.
- Winner of 29 out of 31 shows on the SCD Tour
- MBE award
- People keep saying what a nice person he is when they meet him

I know the first three points aren't media related but still worth mentioning. He's put in the work, let him have some fun in his down time. In my opinion, he was entitled to enjoy a little bit of the celebrity life and he has said that he now plans to step back from entertainment and focus on mentoring and charity work. Plus being an active sportsperson has a short shelf life. He'll be 27 by the next Olympics so who should blame him for trying to find other ways to make a living.
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Old 17-02-2013, 16:46
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I think it's good for them. Would rather see sportspeople in the press for good things than D list zelebs like the Made in Chelsea lot.
Totally agree !
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Old 17-02-2013, 16:51
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In answer to your question - no, they are not embarrassing themselves. If their media exploits encourage kids to take up sport of any kind then that's all to the good. I have nothing but respect for them. It''s long overdue for kids to look up to people who are real achievers rather than TOWIE et al.
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Old 17-02-2013, 17:13
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I think it's good for them. Would rather see sportspeople in the press for good things than D list zelebs like the Made in Chelsea lot.
This.

At least these guys have talent and a work ethic.
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Old 17-02-2013, 17:21
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As a long time Gymnastics fan , anything that raises the profile of the sport is fine by me , I'm guessing most of the Olympics men team could have replaced Louis on Strictly and done almost as well , Delighted that Beth is carrying the flag on Dancing on Ice and like Louis is doing well for herself , about time the athletes in this sport were recognized in my opinion . As for the other aforementioned athletes , who are they ?
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Old 17-02-2013, 21:57
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Luke Campbell is doing Dancing on Ice alongside Beth

Being an amataur boxer he is not earning much money at the moment so I don't blame for him for trying to make some money from his Olympic success through shows like Dancing on Ice to support his family (he has two young children one of which is just a couple of months old)
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Old 17-02-2013, 22:32
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This.

At least these guys have talent and a work ethic.
Most of the made in Chelsea cast do actually have "real" jobs or are still at uni.
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Old 17-02-2013, 22:41
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It's a strange one. Here in Ireland there's an increase in young girls considering Katie Taylor their role model which I don't think is pleasing parents due to what her sport is.

However I think she does come across as a role model not just because she's humble but because when she set herself a goal she didn't let the barrier of women's boxing not being an Olympic sport deter her from that but rather worked on changing it.

The likes of Louis, Anthony etc have worked as hard for their own sports so I think they've earned some relaxation. As long as it doesn't go to their heads but I can't see it for Louis and Anthony (I don't know the other so can't really say for him).
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Old 17-02-2013, 22:42
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It does appear now that being a celebrity of some sorts trumps winning an Olympic medal.

We have the situation now where GB athletes still at the peak of their game are calling it a day after years of investment in them.

Of course it's up to the individual, but it is perhaps a little sad that sports men and women are being pulled away earlier and earlier from their area of genuine talent. The modern cult of celebrity is to blame.
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Old 17-02-2013, 23:11
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None of them has murdered a girlfriend, so I say let them have their fun.

They shouldn't have to be stoic figures of sporting excellence all the time. They're young, photogenic and gaining some experience that may help them when they retire from their sports. Admittedly, some of their current experiences are a little on the vacuous side, but ultimately no harm.
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Old 17-02-2013, 23:19
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I see the argument that folk shouldn't be too hard on them.
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Old 17-02-2013, 23:45
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It does appear now that being a celebrity of some sorts trumps winning an Olympic medal.

We have the situation now where GB athletes still at the peak of their game are calling it a day after years of investment in them.

Of course it's up to the individual, but it is perhaps a little sad that sports men and women are being pulled away earlier and earlier from their area of genuine talent. The modern cult of celebrity is to blame.
I don't think that's entirely the case though. Rebecca Adlington for example may only be 23 now but come Rio she'll be 27 which is incredibly old for a swimmer and she's already lost to a teenager who'll be even better in 4 years time so why punish herself for another 4 years to be completely outstripped?
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Old 17-02-2013, 23:59
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Most of the made in Chelsea cast do actually have "real" jobs or are still at uni.
Well the TOWIE lot then, basically people who are famous for the sake of it. I used MIC as a random example of TV personalities that are often built up to some A-List level where they are constantly in the papers. I'd much rather a kid wanted to be like Louis Smith or Tom Daley than Spencer or Amy Childs.
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Old 18-02-2013, 00:17
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It does appear now that being a celebrity of some sorts trumps winning an Olympic medal.

We have the situation now where GB athletes still at the peak of their game are calling it a day after years of investment in them.

Of course it's up to the individual, but it is perhaps a little sad that sports men and women are being pulled away earlier and earlier from their area of genuine talent. The modern cult of celebrity is to blame.
A lot of the athletes taking on media work are now actually past their peak. Let them do what they like.
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Old 18-02-2013, 16:10
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I don't see any problem with any of them making hay while they can.

Good luck to the lot of them.

(I was very impressed with Louis Smith's dancing and photoshoots)
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Old 18-02-2013, 16:33
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It is kind of sad to see these Olympians now living the life of a z-lister. In these tough times though, I guess they have to whore themselves out to whatever tacky reality show comes their way.
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Old 18-02-2013, 18:18
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It does appear now that being a celebrity of some sorts trumps winning an Olympic medal.

We have the situation now where GB athletes still at the peak of their game are calling it a day after years of investment in them.

Of course it's up to the individual, but it is perhaps a little sad that sports men and women are being pulled away earlier and earlier from their area of genuine talent. The modern cult of celebrity is to blame.
Would be interested in names you are thinking of. I can't really think of anyone who's doing that. The people who have retired like Becky Adlington, Vicky Pendleton & Beth Tweddle have just reached the end of their natural sporting life.

And if they are using their status to earn a bit of cash then why not - they have earned it as far as I'm concerned.
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Old 18-02-2013, 21:46
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I don't see any problem with any of them making hay while they can.

Good luck to the lot of them.

(I was very impressed with Louis Smith's dancing and photoshoots)
That is a understatement to say the least! Anymore photos!?
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Old 18-02-2013, 22:09
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Surely the question should be "Are the media embarassing GB's young olympians?"
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Old 18-02-2013, 23:55
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Actually Barry that is a great question!?
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Old 19-02-2013, 00:21
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Well the TOWIE lot then, basically people who are famous for the sake of it. I used MIC as a random example of TV personalities that are often built up to some A-List level where they are constantly in the papers. I'd much rather a kid wanted to be like Louis Smith or Tom Daley than Spencer or Amy Childs.
Although you don't really know much about Tom or Louis...

Spencer, for his faults, is well educated and was working as a broker.

Amy, before TOWIE was a beautician and I think owns a beautician. Therefore she is an entrepreneur and contributing to society.

I don't think they are actually the worst role models in the world.

Tom has courted the press for years a d is desperate to be a "celeb" as evidenced by his bbc reality documentary... He is exactly the same as child's and Matthews except he also does sport.
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Old 19-02-2013, 00:44
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Although you don't really know much about Tom or Louis...

Spencer, for his faults, is well educated and was working as a broker.

Amy, before TOWIE was a beautician and I think owns a beautician. Therefore she is an entrepreneur and contributing to society.

I don't think they are actually the worst role models in the world.

Tom has courted the press for years a d is desperate to be a "celeb" as evidenced by his bbc reality documentary... He is exactly the same as child's and Matthews except he also does sport.
I'm sure they're perfectly nice people although I don't really pay attention to their respective programmes. I only know what I hear about from friends, magazines etc. I just think sortspeople are more interesting and good role models for people. Maybe I didn't give the best examples though.
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