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Old 23-02-2013, 22:56
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Very surprising twist at the end to find out M was Bond's mother - not quite sure how that works but hey its fiction after all!
Not sure how you came to that conclusion.
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Old 23-02-2013, 23:00
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Was she? When did he find out?
It's just speculation by some over eager fanboys who put 2+2 together and came up with 5 based purely on the name on his mother's tombstone; Monique Delacroix Bond.
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Old 23-02-2013, 23:19
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It's just speculation by some over eager fanboys who put 2+2 together and came up with 5 based purely on the name on his mother's tombstone; Monique Delacroix Bond.
Oh right. I thought I'd missed something then.
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Old 24-02-2013, 00:04
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Just watched this for the first time on Box Office. Verdict: Excellent, some great nods to the Bond franchise, such as the exploding pen, the DB5, Miss Moneypenny etc

It would have been nice to have had this as Daniel Craig's first outing as Bond, as it felt very fresh, and ready to go in a new direction.
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Old 24-02-2013, 11:30
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Just watched this and OMG what a snoozefest. Plain boring.
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Old 24-02-2013, 13:37
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I watched it again and while it's very watchable there were still some let downs for me. I felt they painfully underused Javier Bardem. He played the part given to him brilliantly as always but they could have done so much more with him I felt.. perhaps even having him escape at the end of Skyfall and carry forward into the next movie. He deserved a bigger plot. Perhaps even some scenes where Bond felt some sympathy towards him and had to battle his own personal demons of having been shot etc.

I'd have played it out with the final scene being:

Spoiler


I feel Daniel Craig played the part excellently in this film. He showed very real signs of age and a vulnerability we've not seen from Bond for a long time. He did well and I think he's established himself now in the role. Another 2-3 movies for him I'm guessing. Maybe more if they continue to rake in the money.

I agree with someone above. In a way it's a shame this wasn't his first Bond movie.
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Old 24-02-2013, 20:50
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It's just speculation by some over eager fanboys who put 2+2 together and came up with 5 based purely on the name on his mother's tombstone; Monique Delacroix Bond.
Ummmm no actually. When she died in Bond's arms she looked at him and with her dying words said "at least I did something right"
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Old 24-02-2013, 21:08
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Ummmm no actually. When she died in Bond's arms she looked at him and with her dying words said "at least I did something right"
And this mean she's his mother how?
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Old 24-02-2013, 21:15
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Ummmm no actually. When she died in Bond's arms she looked at him and with her dying words said "at least I did something right"
Lol and from that you got "James, I am your mother", that's taking 2 and 2 and coming up with 500.
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Old 24-02-2013, 21:15
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The Mendes directors commentary was pretty good, I was wondering if he would mention the home alone reference at the skyfall mansion, and he did.
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Old 25-02-2013, 18:29
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Watched this at the weekend, not fussed on the 1st 2 as I thought they could have been any action film, totally gone away from the bond theme, also not a fan of DC, but will admit loved this film, thought SM done a excellent job with bond and hope he does another one, brought it back to what it should be apart from DC playing bond.
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Old 25-02-2013, 20:08
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Ummmm no actually. When she died in Bond's arms she looked at him and with her dying words said "at least I did something right"
How does that equate to being his mother?

Did you miss the fact she was referencing a conversation they had earlier on in the film.

Listen to all of the dialogue, it helps.
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Old 26-02-2013, 08:58
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I watched it again and while it's very watchable there were still some let downs for me. I felt they painfully underused Javier Bardem. He played the part given to him brilliantly as always but they could have done so much more with him I felt.. perhaps even having him escape at the end of Skyfall and carry forward into the next movie. He deserved a bigger plot. Perhaps even some scenes where Bond felt some sympathy towards him and had to battle his own personal demons of having been shot etc.

I'd have played it out with the final scene being:

Spoiler


I feel Daniel Craig played the part excellently in this film. He showed very real signs of age and a vulnerability we've not seen from Bond for a long time. He did well and I think he's established himself now in the role. Another 2-3 movies for him I'm guessing. Maybe more if they continue to rake in the money.

I agree with someone above. In a way it's a shame this wasn't his first Bond movie.
I can see why they went for the ending they did but I love your idea for the final scene, would have been great
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Old 26-02-2013, 22:45
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Came home one day last week to me ‘Skyfall’ DVD. Good to see they have gone all out to create a unique DVD cover for the highest grossing and for what is considered to be the best Bond in recent years…..

I’ve seen pirates with better covers than that!

Still will rewatch at some point soon. Might have me boys round to watch all three Craig-Bonds back-to-back
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Old 26-02-2013, 22:57
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I can see why they went for the ending they did but I love your idea for the final scene, would have been great
I actually think something like the ending Inspiration came up with would have significantly improved the film.
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Old 27-02-2013, 10:23
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A fan put together a tribute to the 50 years put to the Skyfall theme... watch it while you can, it's pretty good:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t10mNXtfdUw

And it shows how well the entire franchise of Bond seems to fit with the Skyfall theme.
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Old 01-03-2013, 21:33
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How does that equate to being his mother?

Did you miss the fact she was referencing a conversation they had earlier on in the film.

Listen to all of the dialogue, it helps.
Practice what you preach

Here is an excerpt from Casino Royale:

James Bond: I always thought M was a randomly assigned initial, I had no idea it stood for...
M: Utter one more syllable and I'll have you killed.
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Old 01-03-2013, 21:51
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Practice what you preach

Here is an excerpt from Casino Royale:

James Bond: I always thought M was a randomly assigned initial, I had no idea it stood for...
M: Utter one more syllable and I'll have you killed.
For crying out loud M is not Bonds mother, his parents died when he was a boy.
As M said in Skyfall "Orphans make the best agents".


Ummmm no actually. When she died in Bond's arms she looked at him and with her dying words said "at least I did something right"
Didn't you think that possibly she was referring to the fact she lied and kept Bond in active service when he failed the tests.
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Old 01-03-2013, 21:58
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Practice what you preach

Here is an excerpt from Casino Royale:

James Bond: I always thought M was a randomly assigned initial, I had no idea it stood for...
M: Utter one more syllable and I'll have you killed
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It's not Mother.
It's a code name, she just didn't want it revealed.

M is not Bonds mother.
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Old 01-03-2013, 22:01
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Didn't you think that possibly she was referring to the fact she lied and kept Bond in active service when he failed the tests.
That is EXACTLY what I took it as.
She had the option to fail him but she had faith in his character and abilities, that is the thing she did right.
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Old 01-03-2013, 22:07
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That is EXACTLY what I took it as.
She had the option to fail him but she had faith in his character and abilities, that is the thing she did right.
I didn't think that there was any serious debate about it.
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Old 01-03-2013, 22:22
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I didn't think that there was any serious debate about it.
Oh agreed. But sometimes a few extra voices might make someone realise they are taking the film entirely in the wrong context.
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Old 01-03-2013, 22:50
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It's not Mother.
It's a code name, she just didn't want it revealed.

M is not Bonds mother.
I didnt take that line in Casino Royale as meaning her name was Mother/M was really his Mother, IMO it was just Bond saying M was acting like a 'Mother' and he decided to take the piss
Any idea as to what M's real name is?
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Old 01-03-2013, 23:12
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Any idea as to what M's real name is?
Take from this what you will,
Unlike the other actors to play M, Dench's character was never referred to by name on-screen. However, a prop from the final scene of Skyfall, where M bequeaths some of her possessions to Bond following her death, revealed that her character was given the name "Olivia Mansfield". As the character was never directly referred to by this name, its canonicity is unresolved.
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:11
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I didnt take that line in Casino Royale as meaning her name was Mother/M was really his Mother, IMO it was just Bond saying M was acting like a 'Mother' and he decided to take the piss
Any idea as to what M's real name is?
I don't know why but the name Moira has always been in my head since that scene in CR.
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