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Old 13-07-2012, 16:33
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Note that R5 is shown as only 8kW on Channel 37, presumably to avoid adjacent channel interference. As we now know, it has shifted to Channel 55, and I assume it is now at higher power, as I can get all three HD programmes.
Unfortunately, that list pre-dates all the recent transmitter changes, so the question of powers cannot, for now, be answered (same goes for Boulogne). Hopefully it will get updated again sometime soon.
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Old 13-07-2012, 17:21
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Direct Star replaced Virgin 17 (Owners Lagardere sold the channel)
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Old 13-07-2012, 18:37
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The initials TNT strictly speaking stand for "télévision numérique terrestre" from which you would think that it is the direct equivalent to Freeview. However, there appears to be a tendency to refer to some of the satellite services also as TNT
That is usually referred to as TNTSAT, same main channels as TNT but usually doesn't include local TV.
Direct Star is included in the list, but Virgin17 is not.
Virgin17 was sold in 2010, it doesn't exist now.
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Old 15-07-2012, 21:34
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I have spent the weekend in Ramsgate, Kent and noted that at least half a dozen French digital tv programmes are received there at all times. The channel guide lists other stations also which presumably have been received in high pressure periods, and automatically saved. The antenna points southward and presumably getting the Boulogne signal.
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Old 17-07-2012, 00:54
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I seem to be detecting the encrypted stations on R3 (Canal+ etc.) on channel 35, whereas that list says it should be on channel 27 and the consensus on here seems to be that only R5 has changed channel.

However, the other multiplexes seem to be on the channels where they are expected to be, although I still can't get any trace of R4 yet.
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Old 12-12-2012, 23:12
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Confirmation that these 6 new TNT HD channels launched yesterday (12/12/12) for some TNT viewers.

However, for those who receive their signal by aerial from the Rennes Saint Pern transmitter, as myself and the majority of Jersey viewers do, we will have to wait until 26th March 2013 before we are able to receive them. Cherbourg and Caen viewers will have to wait even longer- until 11th June 2013.

As best as I can make out, the new channels are comprised as follows:

Multiplex R7: HD1, Cherie 25 and L'Equipe 21;

Multiplex R8: 6ter (pronounced like 'sister' apparently), RMC Decouverte HD24 and Numero 23.

I think those receiving TNT by satellite are already able to receive these new stations. I stand to be corrected on this.

Read more here:

http://www.tvnt.net/tnt-pourrez-vous...-197-1403.html
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Old 28-12-2012, 15:17
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This channel which will launch in Rennes zone for parts of Bretagne and Normandy, is actually quite a good channel. Their website http://www.lequipe21.fr/ has an en direct service and lots of good programmes on there (mostly in English with French subs)

This channel as well as the other 5 channels are a welcome boast to the TNT Service in France,

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Old 28-12-2012, 15:27
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This channel has programmes like Top Gear on so again looks a good addition also.

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Old 12-01-2013, 22:25
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I believe that 6ter is part of the M6 Group, which includes M6 (of course), W9, and Paris Premiere (unscrambled at teatimes). It also includes a channel for women called Teva but thankfully for us it's only currently available on satellite and cable!

http://www.groupem6.fr/le-groupe/
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Old 21-02-2013, 21:22
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When I came home tonight I discovered to my surprise that my TV had tuned in the station frequencies for Multiplex R1 Normandie. I know it was Normandie because one of the stations was Normandie TV. The frequency was 506.165MHz (Channel 25). On the Normandie TV website, it only mentions that it is broadcast on channels 30 and 31:

http://www.normandie-tv.fr/TNT-Basse...e-31_a945.html

However, using a link that was previously posted on this thread last year (see below), it appears that multiplex 1 does broadcast on channel 25 from Mont Pincon (100,000 KW)- see page 6 of 32 in the document below:

http://tvignaud.pagesperso-orange.fr/tv/tnt.pdf

There must have been fairly unusual atmospheric conditions today because Normandie is usually too weak for me to pick up. I wasn't expecting it in these near freezing weather conditions. I wonder if the strong easterly wind (coming direct from Normandie) could have helped the signal drift over here? By the time I got home, the signal was only 5%, so nothing to see. I had a dedicated French TV roof aerial installed three months ago, pointing at Rennes and can now receive all TNT stations. I am wondering if this aerial might actually be able to pick up viewable pictures from Normandie this summer when we finally get some really warm weather. Without being able to rotate it eastwards, I doubt it though.
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Old 21-02-2013, 21:49
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When I came home tonight I discovered to my surprise that my TV had tuned in the station frequencies for Multiplex R1 Normandie. I know it was Normandie because one of the stations was Normandie TV. The frequency was 506.165MHz (Channel 25). On the Normandie TV website, it only mentions that it is broadcast on channels 30 and 31:

http://www.normandie-tv.fr/TNT-Basse...e-31_a945.html

However, using a link that was previously posted on this thread last year (see below), it appears that multiplex R1 does broadcast on channel 25 from Caen (Mont Pincon) (100,000 KW)- see page 6 of 32 in the document below:

http://tvignaud.pagesperso-orange.fr/tv/tnt.pdf

Does anyone agree that the signal I picked up would most likely have been from Caen Mont Pinchon? I believe that R1 is transmitted on channel 25 from several sites in Manche Departement, which is the closer location to Jersey, but the transmitter strenghs are very low compared to Mont Pinchon. There must have been fairly unusual atmospheric conditions today because Normandie is usually too weak for me to pick up. I wasn't expecting it in these near freezing weather conditions. My TV also tried to tune into a second unidentified multplex on channel 28, which I presume to be R6 from Mont Pinchon. I wonder if the strong easterly wind (coming direct from Normandie) could have helped the signal drift over here? By the time I got home, the signal was only 5%, so nothing to see. I had a dedicated French TV roof aerial installed three months ago, pointing at Rennes and can now receive all Bretagne TNT stations. I am wondering if this aerial might actually be able to pick up viewable pictures from Normandie this summer when we finally get some really warm weather. Without being able to rotate it eastwards, I doubt it though.

One more thing for those interested in reception from Normandy:- it seems that the two new free HD multiplexes (R7 and R8) that I have previously mentioned will start broadcasting from Mont Pinchon at 100KW on 11th June 2013 on channel 30 (R7) and channel 39 (R8). Therefore if there is anyone in Jersey who is already able to receive an acceptable signal from Mont Pichon, I would expect that they will also be able to receive the new multiplexes with no problems.
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Old 21-02-2013, 23:03
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I believe it's the high atmospheric pressure that does it, rather than temperature or wind.
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Old 22-02-2013, 09:00
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Though quite low power, Granville (Dept 50, just across the water) does carry Normandie TV and is on 25 and 28.
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Old 22-02-2013, 17:00
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When I lived in St Helier, I once picked up Nantes 25 which astounded me at the time. I guess with atmospheric conditions these signals certainly travel to places unusually seen.

I guess Normandy TV would be possible if your aerial was pointing in the general direction of Granville, however depending on where you lived on the island, you may not receive all the english and french freeview channels.

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Old 22-02-2013, 18:00
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I have an aerial pointing at Mt Pincon in Ventnor, Isle of Wight. This time of year I don't normally receive anything, but during the summer signals often get very strong. I will look forward to R7 and R8 with anticipation next June.

At times I can also receive Cherbourg. Anyone know when R7 & 8 will start from there and the channel numbers?
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Old 23-02-2013, 08:57
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Cherbourg and Normandy in principle have R7 and R8 multiplexes switched on in June. Will double check to confirm.

Yes 11th June 2013

Last edited by Jersey_boy : 23-02-2013 at 08:58. Reason: Added actual date
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Old 23-02-2013, 09:48
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When I lived in St Helier, I once picked up Nantes 25 which astounded me at the time. I guess with atmospheric conditions these signals certainly travel to places unusually seen.

I guess Normandy TV would be possible if your aerial was pointing in the general direction of Granville, however depending on where you lived on the island, you may not receive all the english and french freeview channels.

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In 1997 when we were on holiday in St Hellier, and it was all analogue, the signals from Fremont Point got interfearence from other transmitters, plus I could get at least ONE France channel clearly.

However, because the channel used negative video rather than positive, the TV only picked up ghosted picture with the sync pulse removed and yes it did look negative. There was no sound as the TV only got 6MHz spacing - ie the UK standard.

I assume this was secam with AM sound. Cannot remember which channel it was. I may have got Canal + as well but again this was negative.

Can you please tell me which channel numbers on UHF you get French domestic digital TV on and what channels are in each mux. Please can you remind me of the Fremont Point mux UHF channel numbers also.

Thanks.
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Old 23-02-2013, 11:09
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Can you please tell me which channel numbers on UHF you get French domestic digital TV on and what channels are in each mux. Please can you remind me of the Fremont Point mux UHF channel numbers also.
Most viewers of French TV in Jersey seem to use Rennes St Pern. The channels for that, and all others, can be seen in this list along with details of the Mux contents. It is in Dept No. order, so Rennes is under 35. Local/Regional Mux contents are listed at the end.

The CI transmitter details can be found here.
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Old 23-02-2013, 21:43
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I have an aerial pointing at Mt Pincon in Ventnor, Isle of Wight. This time of year I don't normally receive anything, but during the summer signals often get very strong. I will look forward to R7 and R8 with anticipation next June.
I would have thought Jersey was closer to Caen than Isle of Wight but I haven't checked. Hopefully that means I might be able to pick up some Normandy reception too, but I think my aerial's easterly view is partly blocked by the roof anyway, so maybe I won't get anything at all. Unless this week's signal did originate from Granville as albertd suggested. That location is more within my aerial's line of sight, as it is pointing more or less southwards.

I've just realised that I double-posted a message on 21st February in error. I thought I had just amended my original message- not submitted a second version of the same thing. I was having internet problems that night. I can't see any option that would allow me to delete (or even edit) one of my posts. If anyone knows how to do it, please let me know. I also can't seem to find a list of all my most recent posts, which would be useful.

Re the Ofcom link to Jersey transmitter frequencies- it won't be of any relevance to jimbo but I know that since that was published, the St Helier (La Collette) relay now transmits BBCA on channel 59 (formerly 62), D3&4 on channel 52 (formerly 59) and BBCB on channel 48 (formerly 52). Some other local relays probably changed at the same time too.

I spoke to a Jersey TV aerial erector recently. He didn't think Jersey would suffer from 4G mobile interference, which apparently may be the case for some TV viewers in the UK, if news reports are to be believed. I hope he's right on that one. He also said he knew of householders on the south coast of Jersey (directly facing the French coast) who couldn't get good French TV reception because they were living in bungalows or similar low properties and therefore their aerial just couldn't be placed high enough. I guess that is yet more evidence of the importance of height, rather than just being located in the part of the island that is closest to France.
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Old 25-02-2013, 17:35
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I can confirm that low level St Helier stretching along south coast road to Beaumont do tend to have transmission issues when tuning in French DDT channels.

However locations east of tunnel tend to be more successful.

Still surprised there are no radio stations on TNT. Would have thought the band-with needed would haven't have been a problem and would be economically viable.

Why have the national radio stations not been given TNT participation ?

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Old 01-03-2013, 14:43
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How about the other way round. Can Fremont Point be easily received in the French coastal towns opposite the CI?
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Old 04-03-2013, 13:13
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I'm not sure this is the right thread for my query but I'll ask anyway in the hope that someone might be able to shed some light on this. Here goes:

My elderly parents receive some French Freeview stations from a communal aerial in a good reception location in Jersey. However, until now, the Freeview wiring only supplied their small TV sets in the kitchen and bedroom and they were happy to receive only satellite reception on their main lounge TV via a satellite decoder. I've been trying to get them to hook up their lounge TV to Freeview in order that they can watch some of Arte's English-language movies in more comfort. I therefore took a look at the rather complicated wiring system with splitters that my step dad had set up. To test the French reception on their lounge TV, I connected an aerial cable from the source cable that was already supplying Freeview to the bedroom and kitchen sets and then plugged it into their lounge TV. I then managed to automatically tune in a good selection of French and English stations. However, I noticed the following discrepancies, which I cannot fully explain, hence my request for opinions:

1) The lounge TV (Samsung) failed to detect and tune in the three English Freeview HD stations (BBC1 HD/ BBC HD/ Channel 4 HD) although it . Initially I thought that maybe the Samsung set did not have an HD tuner installed. However, when I checked the French stations, it had successfully picked up several French HD channels including M6HD and I was able to view them in HD quality. Any ideas why it failed to tune in to English HD stations?

2) The kitchen and bedroom sets had been receiving good reception on Arte that night, as they normally do. However, on the bigger lounge TV, Arte was too weak to receive. I have considered that it might have been the rather old aerial cable I was temporarily using for the lounge TV, but then again that same old cable also gave me excellent French HD reception on the lounge TV whereas the kitchen and bedroom sets were struggling to get the French HD stations. At first I used a splitter to split the signal between bedroom, kitchen and lounge sets but noticed a definite weakening of pictures on all of them, so I then just connected the lounge TV alone and disconnected the kitchen and bedroom feeds, but still Arte was too weak to receive.

The only thing I can think of (other than cable issues and the multiple 3-way splitting weakening the reception on all sets) is the different sensitivity of the tuners in all 3 TVs. However, the little kitchen TV is a Samsung, a smaller version of the one in the lounge. You can even use the same remote control on both sets. Therefore I find it strange that the smaller set could receive stations like Arte apparently with good reception, but the bigger one couldn't, while the bigger one was picking up French HD but on the little one the HD signal was too weak.

Does anyone recommend trying some sort of booster? Maybe a boosted signal would help to correct these odd reception discrepancies? My parents are obviously not keen to spend a lot of money calling out an engineer for something that can probably be solved quite easily.
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Old 04-03-2013, 13:28
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The lounge set almost certainly does not have a DVB-T2 decoder. The French HD channels use DVB-T so they will be decoded.

I guess the French channels are weak so slight differences in cabling or receiver sensitivity could be the cause of problems on Arte.
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Old 06-03-2013, 13:10
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The lounge set almost certainly does not have a DVB-T2 decoder. The French HD channels use DVB-T so they will be decoded.

I guess the French channels are weak so slight differences in cabling or receiver sensitivity could be the cause of problems on Arte.
Many thanks for that reply, Winston_1. My first reaction is great surprise that a TV which was sold in Jersey (and obviously for the purpose of watching British TV broadcasts) only had the HD decoder suitable for French TV installed, at a time when the national digital switchover must have been in progress.

However, I haven't yet been able to confirm the model number. I would imagine my parents bought it at least 4 years ago. Maybe it was manufactured before the decoding standard for British digital TV had been agreed upon. That's all I can think of to explain it. I'm hoping that the next time I visit them, my step dad will have acquired some new cables etc. and I'll see if things have improved.
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Old 06-03-2013, 14:42
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My first reaction is great surprise that a TV which was sold in Jersey (and obviously for the purpose of watching British TV broadcasts) only had the HD decoder suitable for French TV installed, at a time when the national digital switchover must have been in progress.
The DVB-T2 standard used for HD in the UK is relatively new. There was limited availability of compatible equipment in the early days and it was priced significantly higher than DVB-T kit.

It wasn't only in Jersey, there was the same problem across the UK. The problem hasn't gone away, it's still possible to buy equipment incapable of supporting the newer standard. Always check for the Freeview HD logo rather than relying on terms such as "HD ready".
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