[stud u like]

Originally Posted by teresagreen

If people don't want to publicise their sexual orientations, then why do people insist on trying to force them to? It's up to the people concerned. It isn't as if it's illegal.

If they are in a position of helping others and in the public eye, then they should come out or be dragged out.

Even more so if they say homophobic things.

[Cryolemon]

Originally Posted by stud u like

Even more so if they say homophobic things.

Agreed on that. Hypocrisy is a major issue.

[JustArun]

I don't understand why Tom Daley isn't coming out.

[Daisydoes]

Originally Posted by JustArun

I don't understand why Tom Daley isn't coming out.

Because maybe he's not gay?

[SillyBillyGoat]

Originally Posted by stud u like

If they are in a position of helping others and in the public eye, then they should come out or be dragged out.

Even more so if they say homophobic things.

Be dragged out? Are you for real? If somebody if closeted, it's their right to come out or not, and when to do so if they choose. They have no obligation to come out to "help others".

Originally Posted by Daisydoes

Because maybe he's not gay?

Didn't you know? His voice makes him gay, apparently.

[dee123]

Originally Posted by Daisydoes

Because maybe he's not gay?

Thanks for the laugh.

[*Clem*]

Originally Posted by JustArun

I don't understand why Tom Daley isn't coming out.

Really? IF he's gay then coming out probably wouldn't be a wise decision if he wants to capitalize on being a hearthrob for the ladies. Unfortunately it probably would affect what sponsors/campaigns he gets.

[BigBmad]

Originally Posted by *Clem*

Really? IF he's gay then coming out probably wouldn't be a wise decision if he wants to capitalize on being a hearthrob for the ladies. Unfortunately it probably would affect what sponsors/campaigns he gets.

Yep thats the sad situation with a lot of sports stars.

[Moggio]

Originally Posted by Daisydoes

Because maybe he's not gay?

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.

[Elphie_Lives]

Originally Posted by *Clem*

Really? IF he's gay then coming out probably wouldn't be a wise decision if he wants to capitalize on being a hearthrob for the ladies. Unfortunately it probably would affect what sponsors/campaigns he gets.

Are there any women that actually think he's straight?

[Conehead]

Word on the street is that the shark's tooth that Keith Lemon wears around his neck is actually a duffle coat toggle, (which is much cheaper).

[Airborae]

Originally Posted by Elphie_Lives

Are there any women that actually think he's straight?

My mum I thinks.

[wilehelmas]

Originally Posted by SillyBillyGoat

Be dragged out? Are you for real? If somebody if closeted, it's their right to come out or not, and when to do so if they choose. They have no obligation to come out to "help others".

True, nobody has any 'obligation'.

But, closeted stars are using the closet (or, shall we say, being advised to stay in it) for the sake of careers that are then built upon lies and hoodwinking the public. This has been true for people who have come out later on but yet played the beard game.

If nothing else it's morally repugnant and unfair on the public, who believe an image based on what they are told. And spend money based on that (tickets, brand gear, etc) It's not necessarily the person's fault, it's like most things, the fault of the system already in place that forces people down that path.

[wilehelmas]

Originally Posted by Winchester Lady

I have been ill so only just seen this. I just think it's grossly unfair to guess at someone's sexuality. I am particularly sorry for Louis as his name comes up frequently on this thread. I do know someone who has been a neighbour of his for many years, has seen him grow up, is very friendly with his half sisters and even went to LA with IDirection so really knows him and Eleanor very well. It's horrible to cast her as a "beard" too when she is a genuine, honest girl. I have heard loving things about their relationship , eg their first anniversary, which have not reached the papers. Finally the above poster tried to make some point about my occupation - why is that? Are you unaware Wilehelmas that there is an Institute of Legal Executives and this is an accepted profession? Most firms of solicitors employ more legal execs than solicitors and often clients assume they are consulting a solicitor when in fact a legal exec is dealing with their case.

Another poster thought it clever to say "As if he would tell" his neighbours! It's not a question of that but when you know people extremely well over many years, they don't need to tell you their sexuality, you can deduce it from their actions.

I stand by my points.

[grantus_max]

Originally Posted by stud u like

If they are in a position of helping others and in the public eye, then they should come out or be dragged out.

Even more so if they say homophobic things.

Forget about the scenario of someone saying 'homophobic things' for a second. I'm having a hard time understanding why you think it's acceptable to drag someone's sexuality out into the open when you have absolutely no way of knowing why they're opting to keep it quiet in the first place.

To me, that makes you as bad as someone passing judgement on someone else on the basis of their sexuality.

I'm happy to accept there's a case for 'outing' if they're coming out with blatantly anti-gay statements, or they're promoting anti-gay policies or stances.

However, if someone's just getting on with their life, albeit in the public sphere, but they don't want their private life broadcasting, maybe because they have close relatives who would react very badly if their sexuality became public knowledge, then who on earth are you to make that decision on their behalf?

[grantus_max]

Originally Posted by wilehelmas

If nothing else it's morally repugnant and unfair on the public, who believe an image based on what they are told. And spend money based on that (tickets, brand gear, etc) It's not necessarily the person's fault, it's like most things, the fault of the system already in place that forces people down that path.

Apparently it's not 'morally repugnant' to out someone's sexuality, regardless of what negative effects it may have on their personal life or relationships.

Interesting angle...

[Tulip19]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...=feeds-newsxml

This seems quite close to the bone, no?

[Theo_Bear]

Originally Posted by Tulip19

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...=feeds-newsxml

This seems quite close to the bone, no?

I think it's quite obvious that Cliff's slowly coming out in his old age. I think most people have suspected if for decades.

[cliffy91]

Originally Posted by Tulip19

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...=feeds-newsxml

This seems quite close to the bone, no?

Oooo Cliff's dyed his hair

Reading that I struggle to see how it has made the newspaper personally I believe there is abit of an agenda behind it

[whatever54]

Originally Posted by Tulip19

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...=feeds-newsxml

This seems quite close to the bone, no?

just spied that article, interesting. I didn't know his 'companion' had left the priesthood to help Cliff out

[AoibheannRose]

I can't believe that so many people are posting 'what is the point of this story?' etc. in the comment section when it's so blatantly obvious what the DM is really saying in it.

[Grabid Rannies]

I know it's puerile, but I really can't help at this on so many levels:

He told The Lady magazine: 'I've heard One Direction now, and think that each one of them has a terrific voice, so if they ever decide to do a duet, I'm available but not 'cheap.'

[grantus_max]

Originally Posted by Grabid Rannies

I know it's puerile, but I really can't help at this on so many levels:

Welcome to my world...

[sparkle22]

cliff pretty much came out on that piers morgan interview.
without actually saying i'm gay I also wanted to add that some people have homophobic families.
I'm bi and I would never come out to my parents as I don't really get on with them and they don't agree with gay relationships they hate bisexuals even more.
some celebrities are also advised by managment not to risk it.
the saddest case was luther vandross who according to sources was desperate to bring partners on to the red carpet.
It's even harder for black celebrities.

[Swoon]

Harry Styles
Louis Tomlinson

But I bet this has been mentioned thousand times.