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Old 06-03-2013, 23:47
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Child abuse: discussing the unspeakableWith an offence which can create shame among victims who are often the sole witnesses, there is plenty of opportunity for error on the part of both the police and the prosecutors

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...able-editorial

"That great explorer of taboos, Sigmund Freud, heard patients discussing abuse during their childhood, but eventually disbelieved it concocting convoluted, less disturbing, explanations about why they said what they did. Even he shied away from a reality which pretty all of society shrank from until relatively recently."
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Old 07-03-2013, 05:20
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M W-T on R5L yesterday morning, talking about the plans that the DPP was going to announce
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...st_06_03_2013/
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Old 07-03-2013, 06:23
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NSPCC warn of child on child sexual abuse
http://www.itv.com/news/story/2013-0...n-child-abuse/
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Old 07-03-2013, 06:48
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Would you befriend a paedophile?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-21445975
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Old 07-03-2013, 17:00
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Child Sexual Abuse And Accommodation Syndrome
Child sexual abuse accommodation syndrome (CSAAS) is a nondiagnostic syndrome developed by Roland C. Summit in 1983 to describe how he believed sexually abused children responded to ongoing abuse.

http://theneedleblog.wordpress.com/2...tion-syndrome/

Very heavy but well worth a read.
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Old 07-03-2013, 21:54
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Sex-abuse victims group names "least worst" candidates for Pope
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-...ates-for-pope/
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Old 07-03-2013, 22:38
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David Icke doing a Q & A session. Twitter

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Old 07-03-2013, 23:19
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It's slightly delayed. He's tweeted that he's having a conversation with @rustyrockets (Russell Brand). Now there's and interview I'd like to see on TV.
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Paedophile headmaster Ralph Morris visited Elm Guest House
http://spotlightonabuse.wordpress.co...m-guest-house/

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Old 08-03-2013, 07:46
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Have the police still not questioned Fred Talbot ?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...ut-yet-1525133
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Old 08-03-2013, 17:28
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Mark Williams-Thomas ‏ @mwilliamsthomas

A further #Savile report will be published next week & will make interesting reading
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Old 08-03-2013, 17:37
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Catholic Church in Scotland 'knew of 20 child sex abuse allegations'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...73#TWEET651410


Exaro sum up progress
http://www.exaronews.com/articles/48...hild-sex-abuse
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Old 09-03-2013, 00:14
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is there a double jeopardy type law that means they can never be tried again if someone else were to come forward?.
I think the double jeopardy law doesn't exist in the UK anymore. It was a stupid bloody law to be honest. The fact you could be found innocent of a crime, and then admit you committed it after the verdict (without being able to be tried again) was just about the most ridiculous law I ever heard of.
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Old 09-03-2013, 13:57
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I think the double jeopardy law doesn't exist in the UK anymore. It was a stupid bloody law to be honest. The fact you could be found innocent of a crime, and then admit you committed it after the verdict (without being able to be tried again) was just about the most ridiculous law I ever heard of.
I think I heard something about it in reference to the Stephen Lawrence case, a couple of years or so back?. I'm no legal expert so I wasn't sure how that would work in a case like the one Rantzen mention, if the defendant could be brought back to trial at a later date, if the witness decided they wanted to testify when their older for example. It must be awful for them when they realise that the accused was let free because they were so upset over the proceedings, that could lead to feelings of guilt etc. - awful.
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Old 09-03-2013, 15:51
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Many of the websites linked to indicate Geoffrey Dickens life was under threat after disclosing the name of a former diplomat he regarded a security risk. The suggestion from those websites being the authorities or criminal gangs wanted Dickens eradicated, but those websites don't go into detail.

Yes, in Spring 1982 Geoffrey Dickens' London home was burgaled but it can't have been serious as Geoffrey joked about it with another MP who had also been burgaled.

Yes, on 29 Nov 1985 Geoffrey Dickens told the House of Commons his name appeared on a multi-killer's hit list, but how did Geoffrey know?

Two years earlier on 2 Nov 1983 Geoffrey revealed to a journalist that Sheffield police had warned his office that his name was found in a notebook belonging to a person who had escaped from custody and was wanted in connection with a triple murder.

The notebook belonged to Arthur Hutchinson who was recaptured on 1 Dec 1983 and charged with the brutal murder of a married couple and their son.

On 14 Sep 1984 Hutchinson was sentenced to a minimum of 18 years but the Home Secretary extended that to life and that meant life.

Far from being an agent of the state or a contract killer Hutchinson appears to have been a mad violent person.
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Archbishop of Canterbury offers personal apology to victim over abuse claims

The Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, has apologised to a woman whose complaint of abuse was not taken seriously by a senior Church of England cleric.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/reli...se-claims.html
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Old 09-03-2013, 20:38
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Tony Blair used D-notices to cover up paedophile scandal
http://www.tpuc.org/blair-covering-u...phile-scandal/
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Old 09-03-2013, 21:14
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In a written question in Mar 1981 Geoffrey Dickens asked the Duchy of Lancaster if he would set up a Select Committee to investigate the security implications of the entries contained within the volumes of Sir Peter Hayman's diaries referred to in the trial of Tom O'Carroll at the Old Bailey.

Mr. Pym replied: No.

Here's part of a letter that appeared a few days later in the Times, signed by a Julian Fellowes from Acton....

Sir, Thoroughly revolted as I am by the Paedophiliac Society with all its professed aims, I feel I cannot be alone this week in being almost as disgusted by the spectacle of a Tory MP dangling his victim over the slavering jaws of the media.

The feeblest student of human nature must surely be aware of how slight the connexion between pornography and practice need be. To flirt with fetishes is hardly rare in the best circles, but if every man who had who had ever bought a "bondage" magazine seriously desired to be trussed up and cudgelled, Whitehall would surely prove a violent place indeed. This unfortunate, true to type, we are confidently told has not committed an illegal sexual act, but merely spent the years accumulating his sad and grimy collection.

And now for this pathetic offence - an offence so slight that it is beneath the official notice of the law - the wretch, dependent on the whim of scrupulous Mr Dickens, is to have his life, public and private, more thoroughly smashed than if he had murdered his kinsman in broad daylight.

Julian Fellowes
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Old 09-03-2013, 23:47
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Why aren't The Guardian reporting the Elm Guest House?
http://spotlightonabuse.wordpress.co...-tom-ocarroll/
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Old 10-03-2013, 07:47
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Maybe the Guardian joined up the dots and discovered shape shifting homophobic anti semetic half truths?
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:13
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What happens, when someone makes a wrong judgement call

Parents lose custody of their children for a month after they take innocent bathtime photos in to be developed at Walmart and employee calls police

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Old 10-03-2013, 08:53
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In 1995 Julia Somerville found herself being arrested for photos of her daughter, following the introduction of new laws.

The arrest of newsreader Julia Somerville over allegedly indecent photographs of her seven-year-old daughter has opened the debate this weekend on the law relating to child pornography.

The pictures of Ms Somerville's daughter were reported to police by a member of staff at Boots. The chemist chain has a policy of reporting any photographs that staff believe may be obscene or pornographic.
It doesn't mean we shouldn't have laws to protect children but getting the balance right seems to be a major problem.
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Old 10-03-2013, 09:14
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At least with the advent of digital cameras and photo printers any photos taken don't have to go anywhere near a chemist.

That should save some people from potential embarrassment as a lot of possibly illegal images will not be seen by any unintended eyes.

The Policer now have to wait for an excuse to arrest someone so they can trawl through the hard drive of their computer ... "just in case".
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Old 10-03-2013, 12:49
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I has the person ranting about the Guardian given their identity away? Why all the secrecy about who they are, what they covering up?
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Old 10-03-2013, 14:20
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new angle, interesting case
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ims-woman.html
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