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Old 08-03-2013, 12:52
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The question that people need to ask themselves is this - if I were to apply Frankie's jokes on Kate Middleton to an ordinary celebrity, would I consider them to be equally offensive and equally objectionable? If the answer is no, then you are an absolute gobshite. Sorry for my bluntness, and to remind anyone who may object to my branding of 'gobshite', I have not directed it at any forum member - rather I have directed it on a theoretical assumption that it might apply to a reader. Seriously, people need to stop with this ludicrous and childish obsession with the Royal Family. They're just ****ing people. Worship them if you like, but don't expect others to treat them differently.
I don't think wishing death upon a celeb - is big or clever and there was an equal amount of outrage applied to a joke made by Stewart Lee about Richard Hammond - although that had a point to it.

The Queen and Kate Middleton are just people like the rest of us. The fact that people apply a different standard of protection to them suggests an irrational view of them. It is a view of subordination and worship. We have seen time and time again how hysterical the public can be when it comes to the Royal Family. Just look at Kate's tits saga. Why is there a different standard? Why are they worthy of greater protection? It's because to some, they are above everyone else. It's the same sort of leader worship we see in dictatorships. Not that the Royal Family are dictators, of course they aren't, but the mass hysterical worship of them is similar.
Nowhere close - actually and I happen to think it's pretty off what happened to Kate Middleton being photo on a private location, off duty and without her consent - it wouldn't have been any better had it happened to Katie Price - it's not to do with royalty it's to do with the media's treatment of celebrity women and how some paps feel they have carte blanche to invade their privacy at will.

You can disagree with the monarchy and still accept that those within it are people with rights to some privacy.

As for Frankie Boyle - at the end of the day you find funny what you find funny but - he just seems to be being outrageous for the sake of it without succeeding in being amusing (although the pope joke sounded funny) - he's like Ricky Gervais was when he first started - boooooring!
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Old 08-03-2013, 13:00
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With the name Tysonstorm
Whats my username got to do with this?

whose services included, "Dropping bombs on yo Moms" why am I not suprised.
What does my "services" have to do with this?

If you were a member of the EDF you'd probably find racist jokes hilarious, may even find homophobic jokes hoping 'queers would f'ing die' funny.
I suspect you mean the EDL

Then again I expect you would find such jokes offensive.
I find any jokes funny, if they are funny. Be they intellectual jokes or gutter humour. At the end of the day humour/comedy is subjective.

If I saw a member of the EDL spouting their hate filled views on the street, then that would be offensive however thats a far cry from someone on stage trying to get a rise or a laugh or even a gasp of horror from the audience.
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Old 08-03-2013, 13:01
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its meant to be offensive
his whole act is

if someone is not offended , he isn't doing his job

i personally think he is awesome, imo he plays it too safe

satire has its place, if you dont like it then tough, you will be hard pressed to find any joke that isnt offensive to someone
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Old 08-03-2013, 13:07
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I enjoyed him on Mock the Week, he was quick and witty as well as fairly outrageous. It seems to me that the cleverness fell out of his material somewhere along the way, and now it's just kind of outrage for its own sake. Some of his jokes make me laugh, others don't. But for me, he's lost the wit behind the outrage which made it clever.
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Old 08-03-2013, 13:43
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I suspect you mean the EDL



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No Tyson, they mean Électricité de France for Christs sake. Come on Pal, wave the white flag for Britain.
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Old 08-03-2013, 14:32
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No Tyson, they mean Électricité de France for Christs sake. Come on Pal, wave the white flag for Britain.
I'm already with the EDF.

Bloody expensive too, and thats no joke.
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Old 08-03-2013, 15:19
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One thing's been made clear, those who appreciate Boyle lack a sense of humour.
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Old 08-03-2013, 15:35
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One thing's been made clear, those who appreciate Boyle lack a sense of humour.

In your opinion. Humour is subjective. You do not care for Boyle, I do. We have appreciation of different huomour but it does not mean I do not have a sense of humour and you do.
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Old 08-03-2013, 15:44
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OK, he doesn't like the Royals, but that kind of stuff really isn't necessary. I can see he's going to be totally banned from TV now and just reduced to touring.

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-en...t-8524030.html
Frankie Boyle is funny end of...
If you don't his humour don't watch him, read about him or listen to him.
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Old 08-03-2013, 15:45
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One thing's been made clear, those who appreciate Boyle lack a sense of humour.
You mean they have a non boring less middle of the road humour?
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Old 08-03-2013, 15:46
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How so? Please explain because the BiB escapes me.

If Boyle died and his body was hollowed out you wouldn't need 'the guy who plays Gollum to wear it', it'd keep afloat on its own from all the hot air he spouts.
You just made a tasteless joke about his death

It really makes him the subject, since no one is going to say "yeah, pfft... take that cancer victims triumphing over adversity" are they?
The joke is him and his ridiculous misanthropy. No one for one second thinks he means that joke as an attack.
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Old 08-03-2013, 16:05
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This is the material that was cut .. so be warned

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYdH_JfU97Q
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Old 08-03-2013, 16:08
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This is the material that was cut .. so be warned

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYdH_JfU97Q
Haha, the Ipad/Iphone joke!
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Old 08-03-2013, 17:14
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Frankie Boyle is funny end of...
If you don't his humour don't watch him, read about him or listen to him.
You think he's funny, others don't. Allow them to express their opinions. Just because you say he's 'funny' doesn't make it so for others. FYI I don't watch him or listen to him. I was commenting on this because it was all over the papers.

Please don't tell me what and what not to do. It's very presumptuous of you.
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Old 08-03-2013, 17:18
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You just made a tasteless joke about his death

It really makes him the subject, since no one is going to say "yeah, pfft... take that cancer victims triumphing over adversity" are they?
The joke is him and his ridiculous misanthropy. No one for one second thinks he means that joke as an attack.
I didn't actually. I said ''IF Boyle died'' not 'I hope Boyle dies and.....'.

Death comes to us all, from the Queen to so-called 'comedians', but there's no need to wish someone dead.
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Old 08-03-2013, 17:22
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This is the material that was cut .. so be warned

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYdH_JfU97Q
Didn't see any of the supposed being 'booed offstage' that was reported by the press - In fact the audience seemed to love it!
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Old 08-03-2013, 17:25
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This is the material that was cut .. so be warned

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYdH_JfU97Q
Its just typical Frankie Boyle doing his thing. This is where he was supposed to have been booed off the stage? Seems like he went down a storm on that clip. Bloody stupid journos talk more bollocks than comedians do.

People get offended at the slightest thing these days and not once has the world ended.
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Old 08-03-2013, 17:26
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Didn't see any of the supposed being 'booed offstage' that was reported by the press - In fact the audience seemed to love it!
To be fair, you only hear the very end of the bit about the Queen, and If you listen carefully, you can hear a woman shouting at him after the crack about Kate's t*ts.

What I do know is, he sounds a very angry bloke. Not an attractive quality. And the joke about Pistorius was one a 10 year old could have thought up. I wasn't offended by any of it tbh, but I didn't laugh either.
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Old 08-03-2013, 18:03
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lol that clip was awesome....dont see why it was cut
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Old 08-03-2013, 18:27
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The reaction is well over the top. Those who don't like it can suck it, as far as I'm humbly concerned. The way we grant the royal family special protection reminds me of North Korea. How dare he insult our beloved Queen is no different to the hysterical reaction by some in NK if someone were to insult the dear leader. It's absolutely pathetic - royalists need to grow up, or shut up.
How so? My boyfriend lives in South Korea and I'm off out there in April. Do tell us something we don't know.

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You really should find out the difference between the two.
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Old 08-03-2013, 18:29
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The Queen and Kate Middleton are just people like the rest of us. The fact that people apply a different standard of protection to them suggests an irrational view of them. It is a view of subordination and worship. We have seen time and time again how hysterical the public can be when it comes to the Royal Family. Just look at Kate's tits saga. Why is there a different standard? Why are they worthy of greater protection? It's because to some, they are above everyone else. It's the same sort of leader worship we see in dictatorships. Not that the Royal Family are dictators, of course they aren't, but the mass hysterical worship of them is similar.
She's just another celeb. I felt the same when Adam Hills had a rant at the press on behalf of 'us'.
I couldn't give a flying **** if it was Kate, Katie Price, Charlotte Church....
well... I might give the Charlotte Church pics a look over.
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Old 08-03-2013, 18:34
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My ears are burning.
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Old 08-03-2013, 18:39
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There's a vast difference between saying 'The Queen's so old, her pussy is haunted', which is funny, to wishing her - or anyone for that matter - dead.



Royals, religion, yes, fair game, but there's a big difference between genuine wit about it - Dave Allen, Stanley Baxter for example - and Boyle's rambling verbal diarrhoea.
This is how the big boys do it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-u6XXOELs_s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KITr...9E3F2AF68C4E99
Depends. How are you rating them? Because you like them more than Boyle?
How many threads have you started on those comedians?
How many young people if asked would know of Allen or Baxter? Yet if you ask if they've heard of Frankie Boyle many would probably have heard of him.
He must be doing something right.
He said it, people are going to protest. If he can't stand the heat etc, perhaps he should do as others here have thought he might do, and leave TV and write for other people.

I, for one, would be glad to see the back of him.
Is there anything in the article that said he couldn't stand the heat? I've read that he doesn't like touring and want to write instead of doing standup. Not read that he's retiring from comedy because people are giving him stick.

By the way, If you want to see the back of him then it's up to you not to watch, read or post about him.
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Old 08-03-2013, 18:49
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Depends. How are you rating them? Because you like them more than Boyle?
How many threads have you started on those comedians?
How many young people if asked would know of Allen or Baxter? Yet if you ask if they've heard of Frankie Boyle many would probably have heard of him.
He must be doing something right.
Many comedians today rate Allen and Baxter very highly and coming from Glasgow Boyle couldn't but be aware of Baxter and his comic legacy. Just because these comedians are not of your generation doesn't make them crap. In fact these two were the forerunners of Boyle and thinking what offence they gave re The Royals and religion 3 decades ago and more, without their input, comics like Boyle wouldn't exist.

http://vimeo.com/11178560

Is there anything in the article that said he couldn't stand the heat? I've read that he doesn't like touring and want to write instead of doing standup. Not read that he's retiring from comedy because people are giving him stick.

By the way, If you want to see the back of him then it's up to you not to watch, read or post about him.
I've heard like others on here that he wants to retire from touring and write for others. Hey ho Frankie - go and do it then. And just because I don't like him as a comedian doesn't make me exempt from having an opinion. Boyle lovers are a sensitive lot when it comes to criticism of their idol it seems..
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Old 08-03-2013, 18:52
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I am fed up with the kneejerk reaction at anyone who dares to criticise the royals.

First hilary mantel and now boyle. They arent sacred gods you know.
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