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Old 21-03-2013, 20:20
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It's taking content for free, without the copyright owners permission, which, if purchased legally would cost money. Dress it up how you like, it's theft. It's taking something you have no lawful right to own. End of.
High Court Judge states that it is trespassing & not actual theft. End of.

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Old 21-03-2013, 21:05
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Who cares pirates are pirates they won't be stopped, I found kat a great community and it won't stop me from using it.
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Old 21-03-2013, 21:15
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The Piratebay works for me, http://pirateproxy.net/
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Old 22-03-2013, 02:22
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Of course guys, another way around this problem is to actually go out and pay for music and movies instead of stealing them! Just a thought.....
TV shows too?
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Old 22-03-2013, 11:08
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Of course guys, another way around this problem is to actually go out and pay for music and movies instead of stealing them! Just a thought.....
Or movie and music companies stop ripping us off in the first place just maybe more people would buy their movies and cds then.
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Old 22-03-2013, 11:21
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any VPN services that are free to use, such as Hotspot Shield, are slow and unreliable. There may
be others that might claim to be free to use, but they'll very likely have usage limits for bandwidth and/or downloads.

I agree. Recently I thought I'd discovered the holy grail of a good free VPN with VPNDirect LIte. No mention of it being only a 1 month's trial on the registration page, although it is mentioned under FAQs (in very small print), misleading punters into thinking it's not time restricted and hoping they'll pay up when it expires after one month.
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Old 22-03-2013, 12:33
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I agree. Recently I thought I'd discovered the holy grail of a good free VPN with VPNDirect LIte. No mention of it being only a 1 month's trial on the registration page, although it is mentioned under FAQs (in very small print), misleading punters into thinking it's not time restricted and hoping they'll pay up when it expires after one month.
Be careful that it's not 'Auto Renewal' unless you actually cancel through their site before the end of the trial period- most of them seem to be

From their Terms and Conditions
"Membership will renew every thirty (30) days..... until canceled. You acknowledge and agree that Company will not obtain any additional authorization from you for this recurring payment."
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Old 22-03-2013, 13:16
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Kickass not working for me on Sky now but can bypass it
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Old 22-03-2013, 13:40
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Apparently, if you use the Opera browser, you can enable 'turbo mode', which will allow you to access the blocked sites.
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Old 22-03-2013, 13:45
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Apparently, f you use the Opera browser, you can enable 'turbo mode',
which will allow you to access the blocked sites.
I wonder if "Turbo Mode" would need to be re-engineered for WebKit, when Opera becomes yet another Chrome clone?
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Old 22-03-2013, 14:06
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I wonder if "Turbo Mode" would need to be re-engineered for WebKit, when Opera becomes yet another Chrome clone?
The current beta of Opera for Android is webkit based - and it still as turbo mode. (although they are rebranding it 'off road mode'.)
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Old 22-03-2013, 14:11
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They must know it's a waste of time they just have to follow court orders, I hope it was worth it lol.
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Old 22-03-2013, 14:47
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They must know it's a waste of time they just have to follow court orders, I hope it was worth it lol.
yip completely seems pointless when within minutes there is away round the block
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Old 22-03-2013, 16:04
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yip completely seems pointless when within minutes there is away round the block
Which I'm always glad for.
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Old 22-03-2013, 16:14
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kat proxy .com is a nice site to use
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Old 22-03-2013, 16:26
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Be careful that it's not 'Auto Renewal' unless you actually cancel through their site before the end of the trial period- most of them seem to be

From their Terms and Conditions
"Membership will renew every thirty (30) days..... until canceled. You acknowledge and agree that Company will not obtain any additional authorization from you for this recurring payment."
The Lite option didn't require any credit card info etc for registration, just an email address. Of course if it had it would have immediately revealed that there Lite scheme was only a free trial period. I would advise steering well clear of VPNDirect until they resurrect their free Lite option with no time restrictions.
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Old 22-03-2013, 23:42
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Seems like these uncompromising idiots are really making this sort of thing their mission now. They'll be on for months, maybe even years trying to find them all though. For every one that gets blocked, another will pop up.
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Old 23-03-2013, 00:05
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Seems like these uncompromising idiots are really making this sort of thing their mission now. They'll be on for months, maybe even years trying to find them all though. For every one that gets blocked, another will pop up.
These American companies spend millions in the courts indulging in such legal activities. Flippin 'eck, they'll be trying to control the internet next... tssk.

Oh wait... that is what they're trying to do!
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Old 23-03-2013, 08:41
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They must know it's a waste of time.
You'll never stop any crime, after all these years we still have rape and murder etc. Doesn't mean that they should just give up because somewhere in the world another murderer will appear moments later.

The same with internet thieves going around stealing other peoples products. You'll never stop it, but you could bring in laws to give fines and prison terms to the registered account holder of anyones internet connection found to have downloaded stolen goods.

In the future it will be treated the same as if you'd stolen them from a shop.
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Old 23-03-2013, 09:44
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You'll never stop any crime, after all these years we still have rape and murder etc. Doesn't mean that they should just give up because somewhere in the world another murderer will appear moments later.

The same with internet thieves going around stealing other peoples products. You'll never stop it, but you could bring in laws to give fines and prison terms to the registered account holder of anyones internet connection found to have downloaded stolen goods.

In the future it will be treated the same as if you'd stolen them from a shop.
The thing is in law its not Theft and you would have to rewrite the whole Theft Act, and redine what Theft is, which will never be that easy
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Old 23-03-2013, 10:13
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Kickass not working for me on Sky now but can bypass it
Works fine here and im with sky.
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Old 23-03-2013, 11:20
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all the sites that are blocked i don't use the reason is that you are all freeloaders and want it free and im sorry to tell you those days are over use private trackers and never worry about vpn's crazy popups
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Old 23-03-2013, 11:39
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The thing is in law its not Theft and you would have to rewrite the whole Theft Act, and redine what Theft is, which will never be that easy
It wouldn't be a major problem - there would be no need to rewrite entire acts, tabling an amendment to existing legislation would be sufficient and happens all the time as laws evolve to keep up with and reflect changes in technology. It almost certainly will happen at some point too as relating theft purely to the removal of physical property is an outdated definition.

Can't come soon enough for me!
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Old 23-03-2013, 12:05
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You'll never stop it, but you could bring in laws to give fines and prison terms to the registered account holder of anyones internet connection found to have downloaded stolen goods.
You appear to know very little about how this works.

Consider the large amount of silver surfers, now using the Interweb, who've been on a short course, maybe, or had a tech savvy young relative explain stuff to them, and manage just fine... but aren't security experts.

These people (and many other scenarios) could very easily become victims under your proposal. All it would take was a whizz kid sitting in a car outside their home, wirelessly leeching from their unsecured, or hacked, equipment. As the 'registered account holder' the victims would be in jail.

Is this what you want?
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Old 23-03-2013, 12:27
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You appear to know very little about how this works.

Consider the large amount of silver surfers, now using the Interweb, who've been on a short course, maybe, or had a tech savvy young relative explain stuff to them, and manage just fine... but aren't security experts.

These people (and many other scenarios) could very easily become victims under your proposal. All it would take was a whizz kid sitting in a car outside their home, wirelessly leeching from their unsecured, or hacked, equipment. As the 'registered account holder' the victims would be in jail.

Is this what you want?
But of course they wouldn't go to prison would they? I think said silver surfer on an unsecured wireless network, with no previous history of downloading from sites that infringe copyright, would be able to convince the CPS that it wasn't them behind a two hour frenzy of downloading Flo-Rida and Tinie Tempah tracks. You're right that such legislation would need to be carefully worded/managed and implemented, but to rule it out completely on the back of your example is too simplistic.
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