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Old 24-03-2013, 21:56
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I've also picked up more on Symphonic from the metal threads here. I've never been a metalhead - just liked the odd bit here & there a long time ago. (Sabbath, Priest, Motorhead etc) Then the occasional song in the 80s. Art Rock & Punk was always my thing.My daughter introduced me to Folk & then Power within the past few months & I've been converted. Hurrah!

Never really got to grips with Thrash I'm afraid. Some Metallica but that's about it.
Good to hear I'm not the only oldie. And yes to art rock and punk (and Led Zepp) but I listen to so many different types of music it's ridiculous.

In relation to Trash, Slayer's 'Reign in Blood' is worth a listen. Metal never really went away but there is something of a renaissance with System of a Down, Slipknot, Korn, Limp Bizkit(!?), Devin Townsend but all this sub genre nonsense has prevented a real mainstream crossover, as yet. It bugs me that the kids don't think that matters but it does.
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Old 24-03-2013, 22:10
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I honestly have never heard of the majority of these genres!

I think my least favourite thing about metal music is music snobbery. I listen to metal and I've been to several gigs, but because I don't listen exclusively to metal then some fans look down on me. Or, as the excellent post talking about "rumbly-pumbly squeakcore" or whatever the exact post was pointed out, people spend more time debating which genres are better than others instead of, for example, saying "if you like this band then you might also like ________" I just find it very tiresome.
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Old 24-03-2013, 22:17
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Good to hear I'm not the only oldie. And yes to art rock and punk (and Led Zepp) but I listen to so many different types of music it's ridiculous.

In relation to Trash, Slayer's 'Reign in Blood' is worth a listen. Metal never really went away but there is something of a renaissance with System of a Down, Slipknot, Korn, Limp Bizkit(!?), Devin Townsend but all this sub genre nonsense has prevented a real mainstream crossover, as yet. It bugs me that the kids don't think that matters but it does.
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I can't listen to Slayer. Tom Araya's voice has the same effect on me as Dylan's, unfortunately. I've managed to get used to death growling, after some persistence but I guess I just don't like Slayer's sound enough to want to persist.

I'm not bothered about genres really. It's all metal in the end. I'm just approaching it on the basis of 'do I like what I'm hearing & is there something I can connect with?' dodger's mentioned it before - the emotional response. I'd definitely go along with that.
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Old 24-03-2013, 22:24
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Typo of the month

I can't listen to Slayer. Tom Araya's voice has the same effect on me as Dylan's, unfortunately. I've managed to get used to death growling, after some persistence but I guess I just don't like Slayer's sound enough to want to persist.

I'm not bothered about genres really. It's all metal in the end. I'm just approaching it on the basis of 'do I like what I'm hearing & is there something I can connect with?' dodger's mentioned it before - the emotional response. I'd definitely go along with that.
Blame my iPad! Although there probably is Trash Metal?

As others say, too many genres and not enough good bands or stand out songs. Yes, it has always been about connection.
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Old 24-03-2013, 22:26
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Blame my iPad! Although there probably is Trash Metal?
There's loads of Trash Metal. That's why we have this thread
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Old 24-03-2013, 22:31
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I can't say I like thrash metal much, nor nu-metal or rap-metal,
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Old 24-03-2013, 23:17
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Ah but isn't this the appeal of metal, the broad church that spans from glam metal (showing my age here) through to thrash.
Personally i love thrash, I first bought Kreators 'Pleasure to Kill' and followed that up with Slayers 'Reign in Blood' back when I was 15. That led to Metallica, Anthrax, Megadeth, Venom, Sabbat and Sepultura before my tastes diverged to grab more genres.
Live and let live with regards to metal I say (apart from f***ing screamo).
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Old 24-03-2013, 23:24
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Ah but isn't this the appeal of metal, the broad church that spans from glam metal (showing my age here) through to thrash.
Personally i love thrash, I first bought Kreators 'Pleasure to Kill' and followed that up with Slayers 'Reign in Blood' back when I was 15. That led to Metallica, Anthrax, Megadeth, Venom, Sabbat and Sepultura before my tastes diverged to grab more genres.
Live and let live with regards to metal I say (apart from f***ing screamo).
I think that's pretty much where I parted company with Metal - Motley Crue, Poison etc Just found them ridiculous.
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Old 24-03-2013, 23:28
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Symphonic Metal I suppose that must include Oceansize. Do you think they know?

I suppose Precious Metal could be for bands that were just a little bit twee.

Base Metal would have to be almost like three-chord punk, only heavier.

Any cross-genre bands would have to be classified as alloys.
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Old 24-03-2013, 23:29
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Ah but isn't this the appeal of metal, the broad church that spans from glam metal (showing my age here) through to thrash.
Personally i love thrash, I first bought Kreators 'Pleasure to Kill' and followed that up with Slayers 'Reign in Blood' back when I was 15. That led to Metallica, Anthrax, Megadeth, Venom, Sabbat and Sepultura before my tastes diverged to grab more genres.
Live and let live with regards to metal I say (apart from f***ing screamo).
Thats very true, I like some glam rock, but my favourite tends to be 70's/80's metal/hard rock - Sabbath, Priest, Maiden, Rainbow, Scorpions, Accept, UFO, Scorpions etc as they're the groups I grew up with (really showing my age) and also like a lot of the German and Scandinavian groups but each to their own, like you say its a broad church and its good that we all like metal and it'd be pretty boring if we all liked the same.
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Old 26-03-2013, 00:58
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The notion of being the most "kvlt" or "tr00", in which as soon as a band gets any form of exposure it is not possible to like them anymore, and makes the bands "less metal".
Yep.
Ugh the term 'selling out' should be banned from life. Deep down it just demonstrates in that person a fear of change.

The band gets some success = 'they sold out'

The band gradually grows and develops their music = 'they've lost their edge'

They release songs that aren't all screaming vocals and ear-shredding guitars = 'what a bunch of pussies'

Grrrrrr!
They don't seem to realize that if a band remains the exact same and has no progression then they start to stagnate and will soon become irrelevant.
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Old 26-03-2013, 10:44
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Yep.
Ugh the term 'selling out' should be banned from life. Deep down it just demonstrates in that person a fear of change.

The band gets some success = 'they sold out'

The band gradually grows and develops their music = 'they've lost their edge'

They release songs that aren't all screaming vocals and ear-shredding guitars = 'what a bunch of pussies'

Grrrrrr!
They don't seem to realize that if a band remains the exact same and has no progression then they start to stagnate and will soon become irrelevant.
Whilst I understand what you're saying, I think that when bands change their style a bit or their way of playing (which they're more than entitled to do) they can lose what made you like the band in the first place.

I loved Slipknot. The first two albums are excellent. Very angry, pissed off at the world. Now they're millionnaires and can't capture that aggression that got me into them. I'd still like to see them live, but I've not heard anything by them for nearly a decade that I've really liked.
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Old 26-03-2013, 12:25
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Whilst I understand what you're saying, I think that when bands change their style a bit or their way of playing (which they're more than entitled to do) they can lose what made you like the band in the first place.

I loved Slipknot. The first two albums are excellent. Very angry, pissed off at the world. Now they're millionnaires and can't capture that aggression that got me into them. I'd still like to see them live, but I've not heard anything by them for nearly a decade that I've really liked.
Funny you mention Slipknot because they were at the forefront of my mind with that post. lol

If I were to rank their albums in my own preference it would be - 3rd, 1st, 4th, 2nd.
So I don't really have a preference which style I like better, it's just when a band keeps progressing they have that extra edge for me. Plus if they do keep changing, if you don't like what they are doing now then the good thing is you might like something they'll do after it.
Bands that don't change I tend to lose interest because it feels less like a journey and more like a gimmick they are stuck in.

I think with Slipknot, rather than it being solely about success and money, they are all alot older now so if they were doing the same energetic aggression they had in their first album it may come across a bit unnatural and insincere.
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Old 27-03-2013, 12:54
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Symphonic Metal I suppose that must include Oceansize. Do you think they know?

I suppose Precious Metal could be for bands that were just a little bit twee.

Base Metal would have to be almost like three-chord punk, only heavier.

Any cross-genre bands would have to be classified as alloys.
I would never call the brilliant, well they were before they split, Oceansize Symphonic Metal. They were more towards the Prog/Art Rock end of the spectrum.

I would say the closest the UK has to what the Europeans would recognise as Symphonic Metal would be the likes of Winter In Eden or Pythia.
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