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Old 29-03-2013, 01:46
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How come he doesnt get named but people like Jim Davidson & the guy from Corrie do?
The police concerned are maybe sticking to the rules and not giving the media his name and the media are following the rules correctly on this one under the Contempt of Court Act now he has been arrested and bailed.

Or it could be connected with the fact it was said before this person was so upset that he was suicidal, maybe nooone wants blood on their hands for a case that has not even gone to court yet.
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Old 29-03-2013, 05:56
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Old 29-03-2013, 08:03
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He has been given police bail until May. Earlier this week the Mail revealed that as few as three of the men arrested by Scotland Yard over suspected sex offences in the Savile case are likely to be charged.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...st_read_module
BiB - too little, too late.
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Old 29-03-2013, 09:49
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...I have finally been able to convince the mental health experts that the story of my life is true and their version is fiction, by comparing it to the accurate contemporary account in the diaries my father kept for more than fifty years.

So from my point of view contacting Operation Yewtree had an extremely positive outcome.
You've clearly been through the mill - it must give you peace of mind to know that their finally able to set the story straight. I'm glad to hear that some good things are coming from this all

Thanks, Becky, that means a lot to me. I thought people might think I must be insane when I decided to mention that. .
you shouldn't have had to feel that way

I don't think they post here, i think i know who they are, i'd guess it's just a coincidence, that video was posted around a few times.
Ok. Yes I remember that video being posted here. I was just curious how they found my username. They spam tweeted alot but it'd take even longer to tweet everyone in Britain with a twitter account...maybe its because MWT follows me? who knows. Speaking of, he's apparently been undercover.

The police concerned are maybe sticking to the rules and not giving the media his name and the media are following the rules correctly on this one under the Contempt of Court Act now he has been arrested and bailed.

Or it could be connected with the fact it was said before this person was so upset that he was suicidal, maybe nooone wants blood on their hands for a case that has not even gone to court yet.
Wasn't Freddie Starr in a similar state, or close to it?.
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Old 29-03-2013, 11:09
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It's all over twitter, based on the assumption that 'Saville Operation Yewtree = Paedo' that the man arrested is a paedo, despite it clearly being stated that the arrest is nothing to do with Saville at all, and is under 'Others' category of the investigation (the same as DLT , who as we know was accused of inappropriate behaviour against adults not children!). I really find it appalling that the Police are still linking all types of accusations together whether the alleged crime is a against adults or children.
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Old 29-03-2013, 11:10
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Does someone here have the twitter name kriskuz62? Someone with that name tweeted me asking me to RT a link to this 'everybody knows' video:- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPEH4h7s7hg with Fernbridge and ElmGuestHouse hashtags (but not the #paedobritain one). I just wondered where they got my username from because I haven't tweeted about paedophiles/JS etc., the only thing I can think of is when I tweeted MWT a few times but those were pretty general tweets sent months ago? so im guessing they found me through here but my twitter name isn't on my profile?.

They seem to be spam tweeting alot of people, celebs etc.. Most of my followers are American so I don't think I'd be much help. I've barely been tweeting at all this week, compared to my usual standards anyway lol.
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Old 29-03-2013, 11:32
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Worth remembering..

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Old 29-03-2013, 11:36
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Or it could be connected with the fact it was said before this person was so upset that he was suicidal, maybe nooone wants blood on their hands for a case that has not even gone to court yet.
Have heard rumours that with the Australian, health professionals have been involved in his wellbeing - not quite sure its the case now, but was originally. Maybe partly the reason.

Two days before his birthday, not good.
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Old 29-03-2013, 11:39
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We can only assume that there is good reason not to name the 82 year old when the others have been named very quickly.

As many people have guessed the person's name, the media must surely be aware of it, too.

No doubt we'll find out in time.
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Old 29-03-2013, 11:41
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Excellent. Bookmarked.

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Or it could be connected with the fact it was said before this person was so upset that he was suicidal, maybe nooone wants blood on their hands for a case that has not even gone to court yet.
Could be, I guess, but it's a bizarre approach, that someone's circumstances can dictate whether they be named or not. How do they measure upset or distress? Just because it's not visible on the outside doesn't mean it's not taking a terrible toll on those who have been named.

Personally, I would have preferred that none of them were named and we hear nothing about them or the charges involved until after the court has judged them, guilty or otherwise.
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Old 29-03-2013, 11:55
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Plenty of people naming him on Twitter, which is unwise until there's an official statement of some kind, even if we do all know.

This particular arrest makes me very sad.
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Old 29-03-2013, 12:17
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The link in full...with a new last sentence

Keep this in mind the next time you are about to repeat a rumour or
spread gossip.

In ancient Greece (469 - 399 BC), Socrates was widely lauded for his wisdom.

One day an acquaintance ran up to him excitedly and said, "Socrates,
do you know what I just heard about Diogenes?"

"Wait a moment," Socrates replied, "Before you tell me I'd like you to
pass a little test.

It's called the Triple Filter Test."

'Triple filter?" asked the acquaintance.

"That's right," Socrates continued, "Before you talk to me about
Diogenes let's take a moment to filter what you're going to say. The first filter is Truth. Have you made absolutely sure that what you are about to tell me is true?"

"No," the man said, "Actually I just heard about it."

"All right," said Socrates, "So you don't really know if it's true or not. Now let's try the second filter, the filter of Goodness. Is what you are about to tell
me about Diogenes something good?"

"No, on the contrary..."

"So," Socrates continued, "You want to tell me something about Diogenes that may be bad, even though you're not certain it's true?"

The man shrugged, a little embarrassed. Socrates continued, "You may still pass the test though, because there is a third filter, the filter of Usefulness. Is
what you want to tell me about Diogenes going to be useful to me?"

"No, not really."

"Well," concluded Socrates, "If what you want to tell me is neither True nor Good nor even Useful, why tell it to me or anyone at all?"


The man was bewildered and ashamed. This is an example of why Socrates was a great philosopher and held in such high esteem.

It also explains why Socrates never found out that Diogenes was shagging his wife.
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Old 29-03-2013, 12:30
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(the same as DLT , who as we know was accused of inappropriate behaviour against adults not children!).
I don't think we actually know what DLT has been accused of, other than what he claims he's been accused of, do we? As far as I know the police have only said it's on suspicion of having committed sexual offences.
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Old 29-03-2013, 12:39
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Mark Williams Thomas has returned to Twitter, after doing some work to expose child sex-offenders
Tv program to follow later this year. Maybe it'll wake people up
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Old 29-03-2013, 13:44
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From the web

"New Russell Brand controversy: Comedian alleges two UK showbiz stars are paedophiles to shocked TV audience
Comic Russell Brand claimed a pair of male celebrities were child abusers to a large television studio audience yesterday."


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2Ow6WXKCZ
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Old 29-03-2013, 13:59
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I always suspected he was using that extra leg for felonious purposes.
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Old 29-03-2013, 14:05
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From the web

"New Russell Brand controversy: Comedian alleges two UK showbiz stars are paedophiles to shocked TV audience
Comic Russell Brand claimed a pair of male celebrities were child abusers to a large television studio audience yesterday."


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2Ow6WXKCZ
I just love the way the audience may beleive what he said is 100% true though , it may be it may not but from the comment it seems that some who heard it will now take it as fact. If Brand had information I think it would be better at a Police station counter not in a theatre break.

A member of the audience said the comedian and movie actor made the audience uncomfortable when he made the claims.

He said: 'No-one had heard these stars linked to the Savile case. They didn't have a clue until then
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Old 29-03-2013, 14:10
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I just love the way the audience may beleive what he said is 100% true though , it may be it may not but from the comment it seems that some who heard it will now take it as fact. If Brand had information I think it would be better at a Police station counter not in a theatre break.

A member of the audience said the comedian and movie actor made the audience uncomfortable when he made the claims.

He said: 'No-one had heard these stars linked to the Savile case. They didn't have a clue until then
We can all have our say in private but to name someone,true or otherwise, publicly is just not on.
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Old 29-03-2013, 14:16
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Personally, I would have preferred that none of them were named and we hear nothing about them or the charges involved until after the court has judged them, guilty or otherwise.
Thats what I've said before. Why ruin all these blokes lives and careers on allegations? Its always supposed to be innocent before guilty, but never in these cases.

As in this current case (even though, unfortunately, people know who it is ) just state the age and thats it.
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Old 29-03-2013, 14:19
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From the web

"New Russell Brand controversy: Comedian alleges two UK showbiz stars are paedophiles to shocked TV audience
Comic Russell Brand claimed a pair of male celebrities were child abusers to a large television studio audience yesterday."


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2Ow6WXKCZ
Can he be done under the Trades Description Act for that? BiB
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Old 29-03-2013, 14:24
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Excellent. Bookmarked.

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Could be, I guess, but it's a bizarre approach, that someone's circumstances can dictate whether they be named or not. How do they measure upset or distress? Just because it's not visible on the outside doesn't mean it's not taking a terrible toll on those who have been named.

Personally, I would have preferred that none of them were named and we hear nothing about them or the charges involved until after the court has judged them, guilty or otherwise.
I agree. Truly bizarre. It's not like anyone is going to deal with this kind of accusation well but it's either the right or wrong thing to do publicising it.

It's almost as if these have all been set up to fail. Will these named celebrities be seen to be able to get a fair trial after being named and discussed on forums
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Old 29-03-2013, 14:25
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Old 29-03-2013, 14:53
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Usually means 'bit in bold' on here. I dont usually use it myself but thought I'd be cool!
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Old 29-03-2013, 15:00
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Usually means 'bit in bold' on here. I dont usually use it myself but thought I'd be cool!
Oh, right.. ..thanks!
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Old 29-03-2013, 15:11
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Rolf Harris arrested by Yewtree officers.

http://order-order.com/2013/03/29/ro...ation-yewtree/
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