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Old 03-04-2013, 01:32
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I do not see the point in having the facility to watch what you have recorded on your Tivo on a second one in another room when it does not work. All but one of the programs that have been recorded come up with a message saying that they are not licenced to play it. It's a great idea if it worked but it doesn't. Why have Virgin introduced such a flawed system?
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Old 03-04-2013, 08:26
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I do not see the point in having the facility to watch what you have recorded on your Tivo on a second one in another room when it does not work. All but one of the programs that have been recorded come up with a message saying that they are not licenced to play it. It's a great idea if it worked but it doesn't. Why have Virgin introduced such a flawed system?
Think you are getting confused with the wording "doesn't work". You say that it worked with 1 show, therefore IT WORKED!!

Licensing is a different matter, nothing to do with it working or not.
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Old 03-04-2013, 11:11
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I am not sure why you are being pedantic by picking me up on the terminology I used. The fact remains that an excellent feature that has been introduced is basically not fit for purpose as the majority of programs will not play. Virgin should have sorted out these issues before making it available. They might as well put a channel on saying 'Sky Atlantic' which then says not available when selected, it's the same sort of thing.
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Old 03-04-2013, 12:57
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I am not sure why you are being pedantic by picking me up on the terminology I used. The fact remains that an excellent feature that has been introduced is basically not fit for purpose as the majority of programs will not play. Virgin should have sorted out these issues before making it available. They might as well put a channel on saying 'Sky Atlantic' which then says not available when selected, it's the same sort of thing.
Stand by what i said, you clearly came here saying the service dit not work, which it does, rights issues has nothing to do with whether the service works or not, as already pointed out.
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Old 03-04-2013, 21:53
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You are unnecessarily nasty with your responses. I understood that these forums were a place where the services can be discussed and help and advice sought. Personally, I would ask that you refrain from responding to me in a manner that is totally uncalled for and would suggest that if you do not want to reply to posts in a constructive manner that you don't bother in future. Looking at the rules, it is quite evident that you are not acting within them.
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Old 04-04-2013, 00:27
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jambu stop being silly, soda fountain is right, the feature works licensing has nothing to do with the function therefore Virgin were right to release the function.
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Old 04-04-2013, 05:32
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jambu stop being silly, soda fountain is right, the feature works licensing has nothing to do with the function therefore Virgin were right to release the function.
Jambu is trying to make a valid point. Lay off the guy!

I agree that the Multiroom streaming feature is a joke. I would suggest that the majority of VM customers would also agree. What is the point of having a few very minor channels only when none of the mainstream channels are available. VM obviously never checked out the licensing and legal issues before developing the Multiroom streaming.
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Old 04-04-2013, 05:37
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Think you are getting confused with the wording "doesn't work". You say that it worked with 1 show, therefore IT WORKED!!

Licensing is a different matter, nothing to do with it working or not.
You sound like Eric & Ernie!
" I'm playing all the right notes, but not necessarily in the right order!"
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Old 04-04-2013, 08:22
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You are unnecessarily nasty with your responses. I understood that these forums were a place where the services can be discussed and help and advice sought. Personally, I would ask that you refrain from responding to me in a manner that is totally uncalled for and would suggest that if you do not want to reply to posts in a constructive manner that you don't bother in future. Looking at the rules, it is quite evident that you are not acting within them.
I am not being nasty, you clearly stated the service does not work, which it does, and i am pointing that out to other posters who might think it does not work, becasue of your post!

I do not see the point in having the facility to watch what you have recorded on your Tivo on a second one in another room when it does not work. All but one of the programs that have been recorded come up with a message saying that they are not licenced to play it. It's a great idea if it worked but it doesn't. Why have Virgin introduced such a flawed system?
Licensing clearly has nothing to do with whether the system WORKS or not.
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Old 04-04-2013, 09:46
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Jambu is trying to make a valid point. Lay off the guy!

I agree that the Multiroom streaming feature is a joke. I would suggest that the majority of VM customers would also agree. What is the point of having a few very minor channels only when none of the mainstream channels are available. VM obviously never checked out the licensing and legal issues before developing the Multiroom streaming.
Virgin didn't develop the multi-room streaming feature, it was developed by TiVo. Adding it to the VM TiVo was simply a case of no longer having it switched off on the VM version of the box, as it was when the VM TiVo was first released.

Therefore, turning it on took virtually no effort on VM's part and it's now available for people who might want to stream recordings from the channels where it is available, for everyone else the box works exactly as it did before.

Then as the licensing issues are sorted out more channels will hopefully start to become available to stream.
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Old 04-04-2013, 10:35
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C'mon people everyone knows what Jambu was going on about,and yes I can see his point.It's not ideal but spose some is better than none.These pedantic answers do not help people to feel comfortable on what is a very good forum
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Old 04-04-2013, 13:42
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This problem is not just evident on the TiVo platform. I have a Panasonic DMR420 HDD Freeview recorder that has the same "problem". I can stream the programmes to a PC or my iPad, but only in SD. The HD version is locked with DRM.

But why only the HD version? I can stream the same show on the alternate SD channel, so it's not the content? (Well not the programme). What is going on here? And is this the same on the TiVo?
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Old 05-04-2013, 17:00
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jambu stop being silly, soda fountain is right, the feature works licensing has nothing to do with the function therefore Virgin were right to release the function.
I am not being silly or anything of the sort. I simply asked a question and made an observation. The attitude of some people on here leaves nothing to be desired and I genuinely think that those individuals need to grow up. I won't be in a hurry to use this forum again to get advice/assistance.
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Old 05-04-2013, 18:14
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I am not being silly or anything of the sort. I simply asked a question and made an observation. The attitude of some people on here leaves nothing to be desired and I genuinely think that those individuals need to grow up. I won't be in a hurry to use this forum again to get advice/assistance.
You claimed it did not work, which it does, am I not entitled to my opinion?

There only seems to be 1 person here throwing toys out of their pram!
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Old 05-04-2013, 21:10
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This is the final time I am going to respond to this. You are missing the point completely, I made an observation, that was all but one of the recordings would not play. That is a fact which cannot be disputed. I then asked a question "why have Virgin introduced such a flawed system?" You simply responded by stating that it did work and I am pretty confident that you knew exactly that the point I was making was that it is a flawed system. I respect everybody's opinion, even yours, I just don't like the way you responded in such a pedantic manner which I feel was uncalled for and unnecessary. In my opinion, the system is flawed and is not fit for purpose, I hope that you do the decent thing and respect my opinion whether you agree with it or not.
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Old 06-04-2013, 09:54
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This is the final time I am going to respond to this. You are missing the point completely, I made an observation, that was all but one of the recordings would not play. That is a fact which cannot be disputed. I then asked a question "why have Virgin introduced such a flawed system?" You simply responded by stating that it did work and I am pretty confident that you knew exactly that the point I was making was that it is a flawed system. I respect everybody's opinion, even yours, I just don't like the way you responded in such a pedantic manner which I feel was uncalled for and unnecessary. In my opinion, the system is flawed and is not fit for purpose, I hope that you do the decent thing and respect my opinion whether you agree with it or not.
Get over yourself, you clearly said IT DID NOT WORK, which it does, and I am perfectly entitled to point that out, as that is MY OPINION, take a look at yourself and how you responded to my post before you start throwing stones!!

Surely, if there was 1000 program's on there, and you could only stream 1 of them, that is better than not being able to stream it all. If you use it just once in your lifetime, then it being there was worthwhile.
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Old 06-04-2013, 20:16
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It is pants at the moment just hope it improves.
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